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Postby fish » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:05 pm

Turbo wrote:Glad we got rid of him. Good move
I reckon St. Kilda should recruit him. Compared to the goings-on there he'd be a stabilising influence!
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Barto » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:06 pm

Turbo wrote:Glad we got rid of him. Good move


After enabling his behaviour for 9 years.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby stun72 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:21 am

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/such-is-fev-20110221-1b2ja.html
Interesting article in The Age today - what is everyone's thoughts.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Footy Smart » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:28 am

Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Barto » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:23 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!


Richmond were a bit more sensible than Brisbane that they took a risk, but that risk had spent time out of the game and had been through rehab. Fevola came pretty much straight from screwing up at the Brownlow to doing a pre-season at the Lions. Brisbane were foolish to think that it was going to work.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Turbo » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:46 pm

Barto wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!


Richmond were a bit more sensible than Brisbane that they took a risk, but that risk had spent time out of the game and had been through rehab. Fevola came pretty much straight from screwing up at the Brownlow to doing a pre-season at the Lions. Brisbane were foolish to think that it was going to work.


The majority of people were saying it was a great move by Brisbane at the time as well as all the other recruits they got. People were picking them top 4 now look at them.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby westozfalcon » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:38 pm

Michael Voss rolled the dice on Fevola but it was a move worth making. He had a rare opportunity to secure a proven top-class goalkicker and showed courage to make a play for him in the trade window of 2009. I believe he would always have regretted it if he didn't take the punt on Fev.

Many coaches would sit on their hands, avoid the risk and rely on the 'we're in a rebuilding phase' argument if performances turned out ordinary.
Not Voss. He coaches like he played - no guts, no glory. Failure is never going to occur through want of trying.

To his critics, I would suggest that hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby scoob » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:18 pm

Barto wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!


Richmond were a bit more sensible than Brisbane that they took a risk, but that risk had spent time out of the game and had been through rehab. Fevola came pretty much straight from screwing up at the Brownlow to doing a pre-season at the Lions. Brisbane were foolish to think that it was going to work.


On the flipside Carey had a year off and was never any good at Adelaide... Slightly different situations regarding the need of rehab I guess... But does Fev honestly need rehab - or was he just a richard cranium right from the start, footballers/actors etc are quick to jump into rehab and think a month stint can cure them from thinking they can do whatever they want whenever they want without the responsiblity that most other people have... No amount of rehab is going to cure a DH - well not if being sacked doesn't cure it...
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:31 pm

westozfalcon wrote:Michael Voss rolled the dice on Fevola but it was a move worth making. He had a rare opportunity to secure a proven top-class goalkicker and showed courage to make a play for him in the trade window of 2009. I believe he would always have regretted it if he didn't take the punt on Fev.

Many coaches would sit on their hands, avoid the risk and rely on the 'we're in a rebuilding phase' argument if performances turned out ordinary.
Not Voss. He coaches like he played - no guts, no glory. Failure is never going to occur through want of trying.

To his critics, I would suggest that hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Rolled the dice? Is that a Lions fan's euphemism for 'overrated his list'? You don't need twenty twenty hindsight to work out that while Fev is a talented forward he hasn't had a proven track record of discipline. Voss has displayed supreme arrogance here to think that he could succeed where Carlton failed. Paul Roos has succeeded doing what Voss has attempted but remember they utilise a 'no dickheads' recruiting policy. And why 'roll the dice' when your club already had Brown and Bradshaw already on the list. In the meantime bye bye Pick 12 and Lachie Henderson.

I think you'll find Voss has regretted it even more now that Brisbane will spend the next two years paying a shitload of cash to a bloke that didn't last half a season and directly and indirectly led to the defecton of five players - Bradshaw, Brennan, Rischetelli, Henderson and Pick 12 - all leaving the Lions at a time when a sensible rebuild would have had them challenging for the top eight this season. Voss instigated this madness because he was impatient. They got outmuscled by a stronger Bulldogs outfit in the 2009 finals and somehow that equated to the rationale for bring in plodders like Clarke, Raines and Staker, who to be fair turned out to the best of a very bad bunch.

Voss now has his club a wooden spoon favourite and he must have the biggest dick in Australia because he has ****** the entire club. You'll be in the wilderness for years and it will be interesting to see just how long you will be prepared to post 'glass full' posts such as these. Like Brisbane itself, you'll soon find out everyone is leaving you.

regards,

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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby JK » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:33 pm

scoob wrote:
Barto wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!


Richmond were a bit more sensible than Brisbane that they took a risk, but that risk had spent time out of the game and had been through rehab. Fevola came pretty much straight from screwing up at the Brownlow to doing a pre-season at the Lions. Brisbane were foolish to think that it was going to work.


On the flipside Carey had a year off and was never any good at Adelaide


I wouldn't say he was never any good .. He was a shadow of his former self for sure (as he was in his final season with NM), but then his former self was one of the greatest ever.

I thought he gave Adelaide a bit off his own back, helped them structurally, and took quality opponents, so wasn't a bust .. Just wasn't the superfreak star he had been many years before.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby JK » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:34 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:I think you'll find Voss has regretted it even more now that Brisbane will spend the next two years paying a shitload of cash to a bloke that didn't last half a season and directly and indirectly led to the defecton of five players - Bradshaw, Brennan, Rischetelli, Henderson and Pick 12 - all leaving the Lions at a time when a sensible rebuild would have had them challenging for the top eight this season.


Not sure if Sherman belongs in this list also?
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby scoob » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:45 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
scoob wrote:
Barto wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Cousins got his chance at Richmond
Fev has had his Chance at Brisbane

Dont often get 2 chances and cant see any benfit he would bring to a club!


Richmond were a bit more sensible than Brisbane that they took a risk, but that risk had spent time out of the game and had been through rehab. Fevola came pretty much straight from screwing up at the Brownlow to doing a pre-season at the Lions. Brisbane were foolish to think that it was going to work.


On the flipside Carey had a year off and was never any good at Adelaide


I wouldn't say he was never any good .. He was a shadow of his former self for sure (as he was in his final season with NM), but then his former self was one of the greatest ever.

I thought he gave Adelaide a bit off his own back, helped them structurally, and took quality opponents, so wasn't a bust .. Just wasn't the superfreak star he had been many years before.


Yeah Cp I see your point but personally I don't think he was worth bringing into the team at the expense of promoting of a younger player - I see it as he was brought in to have fill the large void up front and be the missing link between a finals team and GF team - which never happened - but as they say hindsight is a magnificent thing... Just felt that him having a year off wasn't a benefit at all for him, as it was with cousins. Anyway thread isn't about WC so play on...
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby JK » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:08 pm

Beautifully said Mick .. Hope not only Fev but many other people in society heed your wise words.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6010859190
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby scoob » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:35 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Beautifully said Mick .. Hope not only Fev but many other people in society heed your wise words.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6010859190



Perfectly said - but WTF is on his head????
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:58 pm

So Fevs latest charges have been dropped.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby hottie » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:38 pm

Its okay if the risk didnt pay off,but when there wasnt any interest from other clubs,Brisbane surely didnt have to pay him such a high amount and in the end players have had to go due to salarycap problems.Alistair Lynch is Fevs manager and i think he also manger of Voss,maybe a conflict of interest.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby NO-MERCY » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:05 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:Michael Voss rolled the dice on Fevola but it was a move worth making. He had a rare opportunity to secure a proven top-class goalkicker and showed courage to make a play for him in the trade window of 2009. I believe he would always have regretted it if he didn't take the punt on Fev.

Many coaches would sit on their hands, avoid the risk and rely on the 'we're in a rebuilding phase' argument if performances turned out ordinary.
Not Voss. He coaches like he played - no guts, no glory. Failure is never going to occur through want of trying.

To his critics, I would suggest that hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Rolled the dice? Is that a Lions fan's euphemism for 'overrated his list'? You don't need twenty twenty hindsight to work out that while Fev is a talented forward he hasn't had a proven track record of discipline. Voss has displayed supreme arrogance here to think that he could succeed where Carlton failed. Paul Roos has succeeded doing what Voss has attempted but remember they utilise a 'no dickheads' recruiting policy. And why 'roll the dice' when your club already had Brown and Bradshaw already on the list. In the meantime bye bye Pick 12 and Lachie Henderson.



I think you'll find Voss has regretted it even more now that Brisbane will spend the next two years paying a shitload of cash to a bloke that didn't last half a season and directly and indirectly led to the defecton of five players - Bradshaw, Brennan, Rischetelli, Henderson and Pick 12 - all leaving the Lions at a time when a sensible rebuild would have had them challenging for the top eight this season. Voss instigated this madness because he was impatient. They got outmuscled by a stronger Bulldogs outfit in the 2009 finals and somehow that equated to the rationale for bring in plodders like Clarke, Raines and Staker, who to be fair turned out to the best of a very bad bunch.

Voss now has his club a wooden spoon favourite and he must have the biggest dick in Australia because he has ****** the entire club. You'll be in the wilderness for years and it will be interesting to see just how long you will be prepared to post 'glass full' posts such as these. Like Brisbane itself, you'll soon find out everyone is leaving you.

regards,

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Well said R E B =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby westozfalcon » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:07 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:Michael Voss rolled the dice on Fevola but it was a move worth making. He had a rare opportunity to secure a proven top-class goalkicker and showed courage to make a play for him in the trade window of 2009. I believe he would always have regretted it if he didn't take the punt on Fev.

Many coaches would sit on their hands, avoid the risk and rely on the 'we're in a rebuilding phase' argument if performances turned out ordinary.
Not Voss. He coaches like he played - no guts, no glory. Failure is never going to occur through want of trying.

To his critics, I would suggest that hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Rolled the dice? Is that a Lions fan's euphemism for 'overrated his list'? You don't need twenty twenty hindsight to work out that while Fev is a talented forward he hasn't had a proven track record of discipline. Voss has displayed supreme arrogance here to think that he could succeed where Carlton failed. Paul Roos has succeeded doing what Voss has attempted but remember they utilise a 'no dickheads' recruiting policy. And why 'roll the dice' when your club already had Brown and Bradshaw already on the list. In the meantime bye bye Pick 12 and Lachie Henderson.

I think you'll find Voss has regretted it even more now that Brisbane will spend the next two years paying a shitload of cash to a bloke that didn't last half a season and directly and indirectly led to the defecton of five players - Bradshaw, Brennan, Rischetelli, Henderson and Pick 12 - all leaving the Lions at a time when a sensible rebuild would have had them challenging for the top eight this season. Voss instigated this madness because he was impatient. They got outmuscled by a stronger Bulldogs outfit in the 2009 finals and somehow that equated to the rationale for bring in plodders like Clarke, Raines and Staker, who to be fair turned out to the best of a very bad bunch.

Voss now has his club a wooden spoon favourite and he must have the biggest dick in Australia because he has ****** the entire club. You'll be in the wilderness for years and it will be interesting to see just how long you will be prepared to post 'glass full' posts such as these. Like Brisbane itself, you'll soon find out everyone is leaving you.

regards,

REB


Indeed, the saddest aspect of the Fevola signing was the alienation and eventual departure of a great clubman in Daniel Bradshaw. However this is somewhat mitigated by the fact that Bradshaw has become an injury liability in recent years - as evidenced by him only suiting up 8 times for the Swans last season.
Brennan, I couldn't give a rat's about. He's lazy and overrated and only put in when he felt like it, which was never often enough. Good riddance!

The recruitment of Fev had the potential to be a masterstroke and there are quite a few 'Albert Hindsights' out there who at the time thought it was.

As for the wooden spoon favouritism, betting markets are so fickle that I'm not at all bothered. That will quickly change when we beat Fremantle in round 1.
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:24 pm

WestOz, I dunno if I'd call myself an Albert Hindsight as you say, but as a Carlton supporter I feared for what could happen to Fev in a city where he wasn't 'well known' like in Melbourne. In Melbourne where the spotlight was on him, you'd expect him to look after himself better. In Brisbane, it was going to be rafferty's rules - in my mind. I feared that he'd do just as well off field as on it.

I wished upon wish that he'd get his act together, cos he's a star on field. But underneath it all, unless something changed, like significantly changed, it was always going to go the way it did. The manner of what happened might be different to what I expected, but the end result is unfortunately one I feared.

I just hope that my next prediction doesn't come true. (Dead by the time he's 35).

Having just read Schwarz's book, he needed a steadying influence to put him back on the rails. Fev didn't and doesn't have that. When Alex moved back to Melbourne, I thought the end would be closer than it would've been had she stayed there (not that I blame her for leaving of course).
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Re: Fevola in the Headlines (again) - Now Sacked..

Postby fish » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:48 pm

I think someone mentioned that he may be pursuing a punting career in the US?

Would a move to the US where he is a virtual unknown be a good move, by taking him out of the spotlight a bit?
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