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Postby Blue Boy » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:09 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Yep, Perrie hurt his knee against Freo as you said..check out the replay with the knee dug right into the opposition player's back, just as he did when he dislocated Kelly's shoulder blades during the NAB cup. To me this is either poor technique or a dog act. Normally I don't revel in the injury to footballers but I can't say I felt too sorry for Perrie that day. Of course putting the knee into the back is nothing knew but to me Perrie's method was exaggerated, you don't see to many players copping knee injuries on the leading knee when flying for a mark.

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Id rekon it is his technique Not a dog act - I have always claimed he is a big gulumphus !!!
It is what it is !!!
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Postby Aerie » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:13 am

When Perrie is playing well, he is the best CHF the Crows have. Was very valuable in 2005 and had shown glimpses before that year. If he can get back to his best he'll be a key player for the Crows in 2007. Unfortunately for Adelaide he fits into the category of being good, but not outstanding - along with McGregor and Bock. They all have to be playing at their best to be a reasonable AFL standard, otherwise they become a liability.

The Crows forward talent lies with Hentschel, Burton, Ricciuto and hopefully McLeod if they play him there. Hentschel is a massive loss.

The Crows have the overall talent to win a premiership this year, but their time is running out IMO, with Edwards, Goodwin and Ricciuto nearing the end. Will be interesting to see how their rucks fair this year.
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Postby our_longreach » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:38 pm

Forget about Perrie, he is a dud. Would have to be his last year you would think. If we had a decent CHF he would be long gone.

Whisper around the club is that the Edwards v McLeod situation has not improved....has anyone else heard this???
The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.
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Postby MW » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:45 pm

our_longreach wrote:The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.


When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?
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Postby scoob » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:49 pm

Aerie wrote:The Crows have the overall talent to win a premiership this year


Dont agree with you there, if they couldnt win it last year with that form they wont win it this year, midfield too slow, no decent ruckman and forward line is extremely suss.
The mcleod/edwards thing hasnt improved at all, mate of mine was speaking with a couple of crows lads when they were on the piss in Port Lincoln this week and they werent allowed to comment on it but said it had not improved. Not good for team unity!
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Postby our_longreach » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:53 pm

MW wrote:
our_longreach wrote:The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.


When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?

Are you suggesting it didn't MW?
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Postby Blue Boy » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:54 pm

MW wrote:
our_longreach wrote:The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.


When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?


Must be talkin about Craigy training them to hard at the wrong time of the season and some of the players doing there hamstrings again !!! :wink:
It is what it is !!!
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Postby Booney » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:15 pm

Blue Boy, =D> ,I bet NASA couldn't coach a team to the Premiership.Football is not a science.
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

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Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:33 pm

Just ask Fos Williams.

Go harder than the other bloke and kick it down the guts. If they've got it, smash em. If you've got it, move it.

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Postby MW » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:39 pm

our_longreach wrote:
MW wrote:
our_longreach wrote:The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.


When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?

Are you suggesting it didn't MW?


I'm suggesting you tell me when it did? The question was quite self explainatory...
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Postby our_longreach » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:57 pm

MW wrote:
our_longreach wrote:
MW wrote:
our_longreach wrote:The club cannot afford to have this situation impact on performance like it did last year.


When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?

Are you suggesting it didn't MW?


I'm suggesting you tell me when it did? The question was quite self explainatory...

The scandal first broke late July/early August when we were travelling nicely on top of the ladder. After it became public we got flogged by West Coast, lost to Freo, Bulldogs and worst of all Port, and then subsequently lost the final to West Coast. To suggest that the rift did not impact on our performance is a little naive I think.
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Postby MW » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:57 pm

MW wrote:When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?


Where does it say there that I thought it did NOT impact on the Crows season? Not naive at all, just curious as to when you thought it did Einstein.
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Postby Booney » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:53 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Just ask Fos Williams.

Go harder than the other bloke and kick it down the guts. If they've got it, smash em. If you've got it, move it.

regards,

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Postby our_longreach » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:14 pm

MW wrote:
MW wrote:When exactly did it impact on the Crows performance?


Where does it say there that I thought it did NOT impact on the Crows season? Not naive at all, just curious as to when you thought it did Einstein.


Well i just gave you the answer, and presumed if you didn't know when it effected the team you might be that dumb to think it didnt effect them :roll:
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Postby sydney-dog » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:36 pm

Dutchy
mate, on Wells, i think he is good enough to be a top 10 player, that's how highly I rate him

In regards to some members comments on the crows
1. Ruckman, yes, no Biglands and no Clarke, plenty of experience lost, but lets be honest, these two blokes do not set the world on fire around the ground.
Hudson, even if fit, is not as good tap ruckman as Clarke, but his second efforts at stoppages and ground work is better then Clarke's or Biglands, prior to Hudson's injury he was ranked #1 in the league for clearence and was the Crows #1 ruckman.
Maric, yes raw, but he will bring enthusiasm, high work rate, competitve hunger to the team, so I am comfortable with the club's ruck stocks, Maric reminds me of a young Brogan so it's time to give him game time.
I also believe a good midfield can over come ruck deficiencies, the Lions did in their premiership years and so did the swans in 2005, I am not convinced you need a dominant ruckman to win a flag, it helps, but you can over come this.

2. Slow Midfield, yes Edwards, Roo and Goody are aging, but hopefully players such as Douglas, Knights, Van Berlo, Johncock, Thompson, Proplyzia and even Bode will spend more time through the midfield in 2007, we are definitely no West Coast but we are not that badly placed. I can't comment too much on Campbell or Archard

3. Perrie, he definitely relies on his work rate, so to play consistently each week at a high standard he needs to be fit, no doubt prior to his injury, as a player he had improved, if fully fit, it will be interesting to see if he steps up in 2007 as a forward line leader, if not, plenty of options tall or leading forward options to work with, Bock, Kenny, Roo, Welsh, Burton Gill and some young raw boys in Meesen, Tippett and Sellar, if they are playing well at SANFL level.... Finding the right structure and mix will be the key
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Postby am Bays » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:42 pm

The Crows rely on rotating their forwards as noone is really good enough to hold down a key forward spot a la Brown, Hall etc.

Perrie strength is his work ethic in that he can run and run and present over and over again - fatigue his opponent so he can become an effective forward option. His skills e.g. his ability to consistantly take a strong contested grab compared to McGregor is lacking for an AFL key forward.

I can see why others think he is a hack and why in an unfamiliar team environemnt that lack AFL skills to consistantly hit him so he can be a viable option, he struggles at times (i.e. North)

I think Adelaide will struggle to make the top four this year, they are capable of it but if you had to frame a market of the top 4 sides from last year who is most likely to drop out ( the top 4 is rarely the same two years in a row) Adelaide are favourites followed by Sydney.

I believe Adelaides backbone group and rookies will dictate how they go this year, McGregor, Johncock, Douglas, Reilly etc if they have good years Adelaide will be top 4 to rely on the proven guns (Burton, Ruccitio, Goodwin, McLoed etc) we will struggle.

BTW if Edwards does a single U-turn this year whilst in open space I personally will F***ing shoot him!!!!!
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Postby scoob » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:45 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Dutchy

2. Slow Midfield, yes Edwards, Roo and Goody are aging, but hopefully players such as Douglas, Knights, Van Berlo, Johncock, Thompson, Proplyzia and even Bode will spend more time through the midfield in 2007, we are definitely no West Coast but we are not that badly placed. I can't comment too much on Campbell or Archard


I would be worried about getting a flag out of this midfield, good enough to get to the finals but not to challenge the sydneys, bulldogs and WC's. The Back line is going to be under alot more pressure i think this year. But as a whole in better shape than maybe 14 other clubs.
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Postby MatteeG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:29 pm

Booney wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Just ask Fos Williams.

Go harder than the other bloke and kick it down the guts. If they've got it, smash em. If you've got it, move it.

regards,

REB


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Unfortunately Booney- i agree!!

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