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[Media Park]

I might google the result, get angry about it and vent on here, and later use my works internet to view it.

I certainly wont be paying for the privilege.

Tyler REKS and Santino MARELLA in one of the three "main event" matches? Puh-lease...

[wristwatcher]

Dear SMARKS,
Excluding JoMo, is there a better worker and more worthy World Champ than JEFF HARDY..."MODEST TO THE TOP"....Ive been on holiday so i didnt see it happen but to log on and see a genuine worker rewarded with the strap made me proud to be a TNA FAN. Thats right ASSHOLES. JEFF HARDY IS THE WORLD CHAMPION AND HE CAN..... ARMDRAG, ARM WRING, ARM BAR, SUPLEX, SELL AND PUT OVER AN OPONENT. WELL DONE JEFF HARDY...A WORLD CHAMP IN THE BIG 2. THATS AMAZING. Even the great Big Van Vader never held both major titles just to put it in context. JEFF is NOW RIGHTLY MENTIONED ALONGSIDE NAMES LIKE HULK, FLAIR, SAVAGE, NASH, SID, DUSTY, BRET HART, RVD, ANGLE, STING, BOOKER T AND VERY FEW OTHERS...Jeff Hardy held the both major titles in his era. Jeff Hardy your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

[Major Gun]

Dear SMARKS,
Excluding JoMo, is there a better worker and more worthy World Champ than JEFF HARDY..."MODEST TO THE TOP"....Ive been on holiday so i didnt see it happen but to log on and see a genuine worker rewarded with the strap made me proud to be a TNA FAN. Thats right ASSHOLES. JEFF HARDY IS THE WORLD CHAMPION AND HE CAN..... ARMDRAG, ARM WRING, ARM BAR, SUPLEX, SELL AND PUT OVER AN OPONENT. WELL DONE JEFF HARDY...A WORLD CHAMP IN THE BIG 2. THATS AMAZING. Even the great Big Van Vader never held both major titles just to put it in context. JEFF is NOW RIGHTLY MENTIONED ALONGSIDE NAMES LIKE HULK, FLAIR, SAVAGE, NASH, SID, DUSTY, BRET HART, RVD, ANGLE, STING, BOOKER T AND VERY FEW OTHERS...Jeff Hardy held the both major titles in his era. Jeff Hardy your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe you are calling the TNA title major! Oh dear oh dear! Here is what Mark Madden says in his online blog on wrestlezone.com about the Hardy Boyz. Its the only thing I read on this site every week. I don't always agree with him but I do always laugh at it because he just bags everybody...

THE MARK BROTHERS

Remember when the Hardy Boyz were the future of wrestling? Two fresh-faced kids that could GO?

What the hell happened?

They have a million excuses, and they Tweet ‘em all. But the Hardy Boyz have authored all their own problems. The drugs, the attitude, the flab, the underachieving – you’d feel bad for them, but they’ve varnished themselves with such a thick veneer of entitlement (especially Matt) that you just get tired of them. Imagine that – the Hardy Boyz, BORING.

Matt was better when Mattitude came with a sense of irony, of self-deprecation, of FUN. But then he believed the IWC’s BS and became just another victim of on-line stupidity. And of McDonald’s.

As for Jeff, he was better before he got bloated and drug-addled.

A quick note: I weigh more than both Hardyz put together. But I’m not in a business where looks and physique count. They are.

Now Matt will go to TNA, and join “they” or whatever Hogan’s gang is called, or maybe he’ll work against Jeff – brother vs. brother, whoo-hoo! MONEY! Matt will be a “main-eventer” in TNA. But are you really a main-eventer if nobody watches the main events you’re in? Are you really a main-eventer if your TRUE job is to give a rub to Hulk Hogan’s pathetic carcass?

How about Impact! last week – the show opens with a 57-year-old man who looks RIDICULOUS hobbling to the ring on CRUTCHES. Then comes 30-plus minutes of TALKING.

TNA – Talking, No Action.

Back to the Hardyz: Wrestling is a BUSINESS. The world little notes, nor long remembers. The Hardyz seem to have mentally elevated themselves to mythic status vis-à-vis credibility in pursuit of their “art.” Jeff left WWE when he was in main events, a No. 1 babyface and at the height of his earning potential. Whether by choice or a veiled drug suspension, he left lots of cash on the table. Matt’s ego and waistline ballooned. Now he’s out of WWE, too.

Can anybody possibly think these dunderheads are anything but STOOPID?

The only way leaving WWE for TNA is good is if you’ve already made your money and will physically benefit from the lighter schedule. Or if you get one of those sweetheart sucker deals – which, come to think of it, Jeff probably has and Matt can probably get. Forgot about ATM Dixie.

When you consider everything, the Hardyz are MARKS.

No wonder you like ‘em.

[Interceptor]

Would have to admit that last week's TNA Impact show was the worst I've ever seen.
Hardly any wrestling, just a blab fest for the storylines.

So Hogan and Bischoff have gone heel and aligned with Flair's group.
Might make things slightly more interesting, but so far the Hogan/Bischoff influence has made TNA little more than WCW-lite.
Apparently Paul Heyman came close a deal with them, but a final agreement couldn't be reached.
His way would be a better way.

[mighty hounds]

:lol:

Sounded right in my head

What I meant to get across was, BACK IN THE DAY, there'd be bloodied faces, not just the combatants, but run-in's that got pasted- the shovel across the face replaced the chair for a match, but now I don't know how they can have a gimmick match like this, because none of those things will come out.

FWIW, I think this feud will continue, and a Casket Match will be next.

Yeah nah I knew what you meant. This one they will be buried in a sandpit, with a bucket and spade, up to to their neck only...

Have I missed soemthing? is WWE PG? meaning the use of hardcore items and blood wont be seen anymore? excuse my ignorence but is that correct?

[Media Park]

Correct Hounds. They often stop matches if someone gets a "legit" cut (recently Smackdown Rey v Alberto), and chair shots to the head are completely gone (they still bring chairs into the ring, but I haven't seen a chair shot in 2010).

Apparently low blows are banned now also...

Makes the concept of the more "aggressive" matches of the Attitude Era, unable to remain in the current day, which is why I cringe at the thought of a PG Buried Alive match.

AND... Wristy...

The TNA Title around the waist of Jeff Hardy, is about as prestigious as teh Million Dollar Belt around Goldust's waist.

Christian was a top star in TNA, in WWE just a mid carder. RVD was the same, Jeff Hardy amongst them (only feuded with Punk really, and look how great he isn't).

TNA with better talent could make it worth it, but Matt Hardy going to TNA would be a legit TNA Title contender, and he is not worth it.

TNA is sinking, enjoy it while you can mate.

[Strawb]

Correct Hounds. They often stop matches if someone gets a "legit" cut (recently Smackdown Rey v Alberto), and chair shots to the head are completely gone (they still bring chairs into the ring, but I haven't seen a chair shot in 2010).

Apparently low blows are banned now also...

Makes the concept of the more "aggressive" matches of the Attitude Era, unable to remain in the current day, which is why I cringe at the thought of a PG Buried Alive match.

AND... Wristy...

The TNA Title around the waist of Jeff Hardy, is about as prestigious as teh Million Dollar Belt around Goldust's waist.

Christian was a top star in TNA, in WWE just a mid carder. RVD was the same, Jeff Hardy amongst them (only feuded with Punk really, and look how great he isn't).

TNA with better talent could make it worth it, but Matt Hardy going to TNA would be a legit TNA Title contender, and he is not worth it.

TNA is sinking, enjoy it while you can mate.

Too true problem with TNA is they have invested the money in the wrong Wrestlers. Hulk Hogan, Rick Flair, Orlando Jordan, Tommy Dreamer. Instead of developing their own stars they have gone the way of WCW and brought ready made stars. If Christian had of stayed at TNA it would have been alot better for TNA but if Vince believe you are a star he will make you a star. The only star in a sense TNA has ever made of their own would be A.J Styles.

[the milky bar kid]

RVD most underutilised person in the history of WWE...

His ECW days were amazing!!!

[Strawb]

RVD most underutilised person in the history of WWE...

His ECW days were amazing!!!

True but Triple H kept him down you will be surprised at who he has held down, Booker T is another held back by Triple H.

[wristwatcher]

Dear SMARKS,
Excluding JoMo, is there a better worker and more worthy World Champ than JEFF HARDY..."MODEST TO THE TOP"....Ive been on holiday so i didnt see it happen but to log on and see a genuine worker rewarded with the strap made me proud to be a TNA FAN. Thats right ASSHOLES. JEFF HARDY IS THE WORLD CHAMPION AND HE CAN..... ARMDRAG, ARM WRING, ARM BAR, SUPLEX, SELL AND PUT OVER AN OPONENT. WELL DONE JEFF HARDY...A WORLD CHAMP IN THE BIG 2. THATS AMAZING. Even the great Big Van Vader never held both major titles just to put it in context. JEFF is NOW RIGHTLY MENTIONED ALONGSIDE NAMES LIKE HULK, FLAIR, SAVAGE, NASH, SID, DUSTY, BRET HART, RVD, ANGLE, STING, BOOKER T AND VERY FEW OTHERS...Jeff Hardy held the both major titles in his era. Jeff Hardy your awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe you are calling the TNA title major! Oh dear oh dear! Here is what Mark Madden says in his online blog on wrestlezone.com about the Hardy Boyz. Its the only thing I read on this site every week. I don't always agree with him but I do always laugh at it because he just bags everybody...

THE MARK BROTHERS

Remember when the Hardy Boyz were the future of wrestling? Two fresh-faced kids that could GO?

What the hell happened?

They have a million excuses, and they Tweet ‘em all. But the Hardy Boyz have authored all their own problems. The drugs, the attitude, the flab, the underachieving – you’d feel bad for them, but they’ve varnished themselves with such a thick veneer of entitlement (especially Matt) that you just get tired of them. Imagine that – the Hardy Boyz, BORING.

Matt was better when Mattitude came with a sense of irony, of self-deprecation, of FUN. But then he believed the IWC’s BS and became just another victim of on-line stupidity. And of McDonald’s.

As for Jeff, he was better before he got bloated and drug-addled.

A quick note: I weigh more than both Hardyz put together. But I’m not in a business where looks and physique count. They are.

Now Matt will go to TNA, and join “they” or whatever Hogan’s gang is called, or maybe he’ll work against Jeff – brother vs. brother, whoo-hoo! MONEY! Matt will be a “main-eventer” in TNA. But are you really a main-eventer if nobody watches the main events you’re in? Are you really a main-eventer if your TRUE job is to give a rub to Hulk Hogan’s pathetic carcass?

How about Impact! last week – the show opens with a 57-year-old man who looks RIDICULOUS hobbling to the ring on CRUTCHES. Then comes 30-plus minutes of TALKING.

TNA – Talking, No Action.

Back to the Hardyz: Wrestling is a BUSINESS. The world little notes, nor long remembers. The Hardyz seem to have mentally elevated themselves to mythic status vis-à-vis credibility in pursuit of their “art.” Jeff left WWE when he was in main events, a No. 1 babyface and at the height of his earning potential. Whether by choice or a veiled drug suspension, he left lots of cash on the table. Matt’s ego and waistline ballooned. Now he’s out of WWE, too.

Can anybody possibly think these dunderheads are anything but STOOPID?

The only way leaving WWE for TNA is good is if you’ve already made your money and will physically benefit from the lighter schedule. Or if you get one of those sweetheart sucker deals – which, come to think of it, Jeff probably has and Matt can probably get. Forgot about ATM Dixie.

When you consider everything, the Hardyz are MARKS.

No wonder you like ‘em.

MM. What a douche. I cant stand Matt to be honest but when it comes to Jeff i wont be modest (see what i did there MG)
Like i said i havent seen TNA in a couple of weeks but have no doubt that if Hogan has gone Heel there would have been a great deal of Talky Talky. None the less im still very happy for Jeff that he is the Tna World Champion. But Yes i do get the point re World Titles. There was a point in Adel a couple of years back that promotions in Adel where calling their major title the World Title.lol

[mighty hounds]

RVD most underutilised person in the history of WWE...

His ECW days were amazing!!!

True but Triple H kept him down you will be surprised at who he has held down, Booker T is another held back by Triple H.

If you dont mind strawb could you extend that comment. what do u mean?

[Media Park]

HHH has all the influence, and he gets what he wants.

That is the reason Sheamus got pushed so hard so fast...

And other workers have been left behind...

[wristwatcher]

HHH has all the influence, and he gets what he wants.

That is the reason Sheamus got pushed so hard so fast...

And other workers have been left behind...

Married Stef therefore became Vinces son in law and gave him a couple of Grandkids. Would clearly help sway H3 ideas to become reality

[Media Park]

HHH has all the influence, and he gets what he wants.

That is the reason Sheamus got pushed so hard so fast...

And other workers have been left behind...

Married Stef therefore became Vinces son in law and gave him a couple of Grandkids. Would clearly help sway H3 ideas to become reality

And he's a newly-coined exec position within WWE means his dreams will be reality for many a year to come...

[Strawb]

Pretty much since getting with Stephine Triple H has had control over the WWE and his character. Depending what brand he is on scripts are emailed and sent to him to see if he agrees or disagrees with what happens to him. best example is Wrestlemania 17, The Rock and Hogan was meant to be the main event but Triple H's ego wanted the last memory the fans would have is of him holding both title belts.
Shane quit the WWE because his ideas would always be shot down by Stephine and Triple H in the end he had enough of being talked down to by them. Also if you work out with Triple H you have a better title chance see Sheamus and Batista. If Triple H tells a joke you better laugh because Stephine will shoot you down and ask you why don't you find it funny.
Pretty much except for the Undertaker Triple H rules the WWE.

[mighty hounds]

Pretty much since getting with Stephine Triple H has had control over the WWE and his character. Depending what brand he is on scripts are emailed and sent to him to see if he agrees or disagrees with what happens to him. best example is Wrestlemania 17, The Rock and Hogan was meant to be the main event but Triple H's ego wanted the last memory the fans would have is of him holding both title belts.
Shane quit the WWE because his ideas would always be shot down by Stephine and Triple H in the end he had enough of being talked down to by them. Also if you work out with Triple H you have a better title chance see Sheamus and Batista. If Triple H tells a joke you better laugh because Stephine will shoot you down and ask you why don't you find it funny.
Pretty much except for the Undertaker Triple H rules the WWE.

Thanks for that.....thats a joke if thats the case. lets hope some1 goes against the script and smacks him with a chair

[Strawb]

Pretty much since getting with Stephine Triple H has had control over the WWE and his character. Depending what brand he is on scripts are emailed and sent to him to see if he agrees or disagrees with what happens to him. best example is Wrestlemania 17, The Rock and Hogan was meant to be the main event but Triple H's ego wanted the last memory the fans would have is of him holding both title belts.
Shane quit the WWE because his ideas would always be shot down by Stephine and Triple H in the end he had enough of being talked down to by them. Also if you work out with Triple H you have a better title chance see Sheamus and Batista. If Triple H tells a joke you better laugh because Stephine will shoot you down and ask you why don't you find it funny.
Pretty much except for the Undertaker Triple H rules the WWE.

Thanks for that.....thats a joke if thats the case. lets hope some1 goes against the script and smacks him with a chair

It isn't a joke he is like that. Pretty much Triple H plays ball when he needs to buy if he doesn't like the ending or losing the match, he can change the result. No one would go against the script because if you want a job you will do what the script says.

[Bully]

sorry strawb...but do you work for the WWE? how do you know this info on emails sent to stephanie and triple H your going on about? I think its the case that Vince controls the show as he should. Not sure how anyone outside the WWE can say this? Ive known to be wrong plenty of times before and please correct me but how do you know all this?


IMO i am loving this Nexus and Cena thing and have said it before. Loved the show tonight where Wade threw the water in cenas face. Classical. I got bored of WWE until this nexus thing and i love it again

[Strawb]

sorry strawb...but do you work for the WWE? how do you know this info on emails sent to stephanie and triple H your going on about? I think its the case that Vince controls the show as he should. Not sure how anyone outside the WWE can say this? Ive known to be wrong plenty of times before and please correct me but how do you know all this?

That is ok Bulldog it is amazing how much you can find out. No I have never worked with the WWE but the information is out there. I have read and heard the same information from many different sources. Certain places talk to former WWE employees and writers and you will be surprised how many will talk. Most will say good things about the WWE and Vince, but there has been a few who will buck that trend and talk out against Triple H and Stephine.

[Mic]

sorry strawb...but do you work for the WWE? how do you know this info on emails sent to stephanie and triple H your going on about? I think its the case that Vince controls the show as he should. Not sure how anyone outside the WWE can say this? Ive known to be wrong plenty of times before and please correct me but how do you know all this?

HHH's influence is well-documented from many ex-WWE workers.