Port Adelaide 2011

Talk on the national game

Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:30 pm

That time of the year again where clubs decide who stays and who goes. With a new coach on the horizon I can see quite a few changes over the summer months.

Banner, Mitchell - Showed glimpses of what he is capable of in 2010. Stays.
Boak, Travis - The bloke we build our centre line around for the next 10 years. Thanks Christ he stayed.
Broadbent, Matthew - Looks keen to make the step from half back to mid-field and has great skills, decision making and poise. Stays.
Brogan Dean - We get 2011 our of Broges, then what? Stays.
Butcher, John - Hardly sighted highly rated, must get at least two more years to show what he can do. Stays.
Carlile, Alipate - Bob, the rock of our defence. I love the way this bloke goes about it. Sign him for life, NOW!
Carr, Josh - Retired.
Cassisi, Domenic - Has grown into the skippers role perfectly and might not be our bext player, but if they all tried as hard as he does.....Good oyna Dom.
Chaplin, Troy - Our key backman who has taken over Chad's role just nicely. Reads the play well, rarely gets beaten.
Cloke, Cameron - Called in as a back up and although he didnt play much his SANFL form was good, and, as insurance I think he should get one more year.
Cornes, Chad - Interesting. Will play on, but where? I see a move on-ball and forward for Chad.Stays
Cornes, Kane - Our #1 tagger and fantastic at what he does. Still under rated out of Alberton.Stays.
Davenport, Jason - An other interesting one. My view would be to replace him with youth but with Ebert going down, do we need him as back up? Stays. Just.
Ebert, Brett - Will recover from his knee to be back in the side. Stays.
Gray, Robert - Gun. Say. No. More. Like Boaky, glad he stayed.
Harding, Scott - Gone. Saw him twice for little or no impact. Gone.
Hartlett, Hamish - Injury riddled star who might only have 12 months to get his body right. Geez, I hope he can.Stays.
Hitchcock, Cameron - Hitchy might just be a new cult hero at Alberton and I think he is capable of kicking 40-50 goals in a season. Stays.
Krakouer, Nathan - GC bound. Bye, bye.
Lobbe, Matthew - Injury and some lack of form early lost his spot and he couldn't get back in. Highly rated and I like the look of him. Stays.
Logan, Tom - Tough and hard who loves to get his head over it. Stays.
Moore, Andrew - Looks good. Good skills, nice size for half back and likes to back himself. Keep picking him. Stays.
Motlop, Daniel - Time for us to move on. One bloke who can light up a game but I think he is looking for greener pastures. Thanks for the memories Mots. Gone.
Motlop, Marlon - Not much to say really. Gone.
Nash, Jay - Another interesting one. I like the way he goes about it and appears to finally be fit enough for AFL. Stays.
Pearce, Danyle - Has bounced back to form this year and is crucial as our "outside" midfielder, has added some tackling to his game. Stays.
Pettigrew, Michael - Injury riddled 2010 and with Moore, Logan, Chaplin and co down back I cant see him getting back in. Gone.
Pittard, Jasper - Highly rated youngster who is still to develop. Stays.
Redden, Jarrad - See Pittard. Long term ruck prospect. Stays.
Rodan, David - D-Rod took most of the year to get his fitness up after missing pre-season and will be even better next year. Stays.
Salopek, Steven - Get his signature now! Sure, shoulders are didgy but his skills and decision making we need, badly. Get him sound. Stays.
Salter, Nick - Looks to be enjoying the move down back and can pinch hit up forward. Taken Pettigrews spot. Stays.
Schulz, Jay - What a year he had, I want 50+ goals out of him in 2011. Stays.
Stewart, Daniel - Show he can take a grab, kick a goal. Long term ruck / forward prospect. Stays.
Stewart, Paul - Like his style and he might just play in the middle a little more in 2011.Stays.
Surjan, Jacob - Missed some time with injury and is a huge part of our back half / leadership team. Next captain? Stays.
Thomas, Matt - Tough and hard. We need him Logan and Dom with their head over it handing it to Sal, Boaky, Gray and Pearce. Stays.
Thompson, Wade - Gone missing. Gone.
Tredrea, Warren - Our best ever AFL player IMO. We will miss him, but I like the look of our new forward structure. Well played Tredders, well played. :prayer: :prayer:
Trengove, Jackson - Got a bit of mongrel in him this lad. Got a head like a bag full of spanners so he's got nothing to lose on that front. Stays/
Westhoff, Justin - Might just be ready to toughen up and take the next step in his development now Tredders has gone. Stays.
Westhoff, Matthew - Showed nothing in 2010 and he should clean out his locker. Gone.

Gone - Carr, Harding, Krakouer,Motlop ( x2), Pettigrew, Thompson, Tredrea, M.Westhoff.

9 changes to the list I think we should see.

What do we need?
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

If you want to go far, go together.
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 61654
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 8201 times
Been liked: 11936 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby james07 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:02 pm

Very gone review, my views on Davenport is to delist him really hurts us when hes up forward whilst he can tackle and kick the odd goal he runs too far forward of the contest and gets caught out against the good sides.

Cloke- brogans back up plan but i would rather see the time put into the kids gone.
james07
Under 16s
 
 
Posts: 448
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:44 pm
Has liked: 10 times
Been liked: 13 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Freo HeaveHo » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:37 pm

Very thorough appraisal ... appreciate ya work but for mine way too soft on an underperformed side

If you disregard Tredders Carry and Krackouer all un forced changes i dont think six is enough. I know its difficult with draft concessions coming up.

We have been very lucky with what we have got out of D-Rod but we must question going down the path of tried unproven players that have been in the system for a while . ie Nash , Harding , Meyer .

I think we are going to have to be very active on the trade table and try to get at least one maybe two big name recruits. It takes balls to have a win in this situation and its time we bit the bullet. Take Michael Pettigrew for example , never been a fan of his. can run yes but his skills and more so decision making are terrible. The bloke played in a gf couple years back and coulda been of some worth on the trade table but now is worth sqat !!!

It may be time to go for say a Pearce ... who i dont think we will miss but will be of some use to another team. We are going to have to part with someone of worth and maybe a draft pick to get someone good in return ( for a example a Ryan Griffin with 8 years footy left in him )


Now is the time to trade because the sides needing to find that bit extra are going to put useful players n the trade table with only limited draft picks available and we need to get on the front foot
User avatar
Freo HeaveHo
Reserves
 
 
Posts: 752
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:32 pm
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 14 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:50 pm

How did I miss Meyer?

Meyer, Danny - Showed he wants to be there but is he good enough? No. Gone.
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

If you want to go far, go together.
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 61654
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 8201 times
Been liked: 11936 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Trader » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:28 pm

Freo HeaveHo, I am thinking the opposite.

Given the limited draft opportunities this year there is no real reason to cut beyond the required 6.
The 9th guy you cut from your list is likely to be better than pick number 120, or whatever you end up getting for your 9th pick in the draft.

I agree you can be liberal with your trading options, shop 7,8,9,10 around and see if you can get some guns traded in, but if they don't get a trade match, i'd keep them. I think in many respects it will be tough to trade for players. Everyone knows the draft is compromised for the next few years, so why would you give up a gun unless you got PLENTY for them?


Booney, reasonable effort, agree with most. Thought you were a bit harsh on Davenport.
Danny Southern telling Plugga he's fat, I'd like to see that!
User avatar
Trader
Assistant Coach
 
Posts: 4439
Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 1:19 pm
Has liked: 63 times
Been liked: 877 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:56 pm

I had trouble with Davenport in the main. Reasoning. For us to be top 8 material I dont think he is in our best 22.

FF : Gray Schulz Rodan
HF : Broadbent Westhoff Hitchcock
C : Salopek Boak Pearce
HB : P.Stewart Chaplin Surjan
FB : Salter Carlile Logan

R : Brogan Cassisi K.Cornes

Int : C.Cornes Trengove Moore D.Stewart Banner Hartlett Lobbe etc etc.

Ebert once fit again. Who would Davenport displace from that side?
If you want to go quickly, go alone.

If you want to go far, go together.
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 61654
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 8201 times
Been liked: 11936 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Trader » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:08 pm

It is vary rare for any side to be at 100%, so not making the best 22 is different from not being able to contribute at some stage.
I think he is in the best 30, and would therefore likely play at various times during the year. I think he would be getting somewhere in the order of 10-15 a season, if not more.

Agree, you don't want to fill your side with fill-ins and take up spots for developing players who will one day be in your starting 22 every week, but I feel Davenport is high enough up the list to avoid a close look from the man with the axe.

I see Davenport as similar to Josh Mahoney in 04.
Danny Southern telling Plugga he's fat, I'd like to see that!
User avatar
Trader
Assistant Coach
 
Posts: 4439
Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 1:19 pm
Has liked: 63 times
Been liked: 877 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby JK » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:10 pm

Top write-up Millsn, hard to disagree with everything you've written
FUSC
User avatar
JK
Coach
 
 
Posts: 37460
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:11 am
Location: Coopers Hill
Has liked: 4485 times
Been liked: 3024 times
Grassroots Team: SMOSH West Lakes

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby auto » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:20 pm

Booney wrote:I had trouble with Davenport in the main. Reasoning. For us to be top 8 material I dont think he is in our best 22.

FF : Gray Schulz Rodan
HF : Broadbent Westhoff Hitchcock
C : Salopek Boak Pearce
HB : P.Stewart Chaplin Surjan
FB : Salter Carlile Logan

R : Brogan Cassisi K.Cornes

Int : C.Cornes Trengove Moore D.Stewart Banner Hartlett Lobbe etc etc.

Ebert once fit again. Who would Davenport displace from that side?


Great work booney. M Motlop, M Westoff and Thompson would slug it out for duds of the centruy wouldnt they. All have done zero and all have played quite a bit of sanfl reserves.

As for your team id have trengove at centre half back with chappy on a flank as hes proven he can play on talls/smalls. P stewart and salter to fight it out for the other flank
User avatar
auto
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 2803
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:49 am
Has liked: 26 times
Been liked: 29 times
Grassroots Team: Fitzroy

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Freo HeaveHo » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:21 pm

what i was trying to say was that i dont think our best 22 is good enough to to do anything but scrape into the 8 next year .... I hope im wrong !!

With ebert with a cloud over his head and tredders gone and salter being used well down back we need a strong marking forward to take some of the pressure of of Shultzy who has had a great first year at the club. I was a constant Westhoff bagger in the past but i take back any bad word i said bout him ... after going to the past few games he does has something to offer but we desperately need a strong bodied contested marker
User avatar
Freo HeaveHo
Reserves
 
 
Posts: 752
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:32 pm
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 14 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Magpiespower » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:35 am

Looooots of ifs, buts and maybes...

B: Surjan, Carlile, P. Stewart
HB: Cassissi, Chaplin, Logan
C: Salopek, Boak, K. Cornes
HF: Westhoff, Schulz, Rodan
F: D. Stewart, Salter, Gray
R: Brogan, Hartlett, Pearce
Int: Moore, Broadbent, Trengove, Lobbe, Hitchcock, Pettigrew, D. Motlop, C. Cornes, Thomas, Banner and the cast of Ben-Hur.
Everyone can eat s#!t! A big bag of s#!t! I'm the greatest man in the world!
User avatar
Magpiespower
Coach
 
 
Posts: 6292
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:12 am
Location: Salisbury
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 125 times
Grassroots Team: Salisbury

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:27 pm

Is there any idea as to when Port will announce its new coach?
Phantom Gossiper
Coach
 
 
Posts: 11144
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:35 pm
Has liked: 402 times
Been liked: 285 times

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby jointman » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:01 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Is there any idea as to when Port will announce its new coach?

heard saturday sometime
jointman
Under 18s
 
 
Posts: 539
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:38 am
Has liked: 0 time
Been liked: 0 time

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby Dirko » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:43 pm

How close is Salopek close to re-signing?

He's a good player and would be a loss IMO if he left.

Do Port need another Ruckman?
The joy of being on the hill drinking beer cannot be understated
User avatar
Dirko
Coach
 
 
Posts: 11456
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:17 pm
Location: Snouts Hill
Has liked: 6 times
Been liked: 2 times
Grassroots Team: SMOSH West Lakes

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:08 pm

SJABC wrote:How close is Salopek close to re-signing?

He's a good player and would be a loss IMO if he left.

Do Port need another Ruckman?

IMO Yes, yes they do. Can't rely on Brogan next year to do most of the ruckwork with pinch hits from Westhoff, he won't survive the season.
User avatar
The Dark Knight
Coach
 
Posts: 35664
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:32 pm
Location: Gotham City
Has liked: 11825 times
Been liked: 1670 times
Grassroots Team: North Haven

Re: Port Adelaide 2011

Postby SATCHEL » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:57 pm

From being at the press conference today at Alberton the main statement from the club was they dont have massive holes that is needed to be filled other than a break through midfielder and a key backman or small defender taht could change into the middle if needed. I dont agree with most of the cuts taht have been suggested on here but everyone has their own ideals which is great about the club and game we love. I do agree with the fact that we need an experienced or close too Ruckman to back Brog's up. I dont think the Cloke card worked as well as was hoped. He should have been used a little more o get the whole Power delivery (even though it was bad this year including 2009). A little more time and game time into him it may have worked out better. Schultz has been awesome up foprward in the absence of a lead up player like a Brown or Hall but who is next tothem. Pick a young lad and wait 2-3 years for him to work out or pick someone else like shultz who could take 6-12 months to fit in and get the job done? I say let them sort out what needs to be done they have a good idea of what is needed and they were very open about it today. They have some good ideas for 2011. Lets just see what happens over the next few weeks and trade season etc.
SATCHEL
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1241
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:34 am
Location: @The Kennel
Has liked: 32 times
Been liked: 53 times
Grassroots Team: Wingfield Royals


Board index   Football  AFL

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 5 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |