Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby jo172 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Also think that PAOC has delegated their C1 as their C Grade side whereas last year it was their D7 side. May be mistaken though? I.e this year it's nominally their D Grade? I also think PAOC grades its players along a lot more "linear/traditional" talent model than Adelaide Uni for example.

Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:35 pm

I'll have a go:
B.Coles NFI
B.Papps Kadina
C.Graetz injured
C.Pritchard OS
D.Clayfield Penola
F.Ellis Kadina
H.Latchford injured
N.Clayfield injured
W.Dalwood Naughty boy
W.Thompson Padthaway
C.Hannemann NFI
D. Foulis Mid North FL
J.Dalwood too old ;) B Coach
J. Graetz injured
J.Prest NFI
J. Ramsey NFI
J.Skeer NFI
N.Ellis Kadina
N.Mosey Penola (?)
S. Potts Go to the Oyster Bar Holdfast Shores for some good food
T.Wicks Played last week
Also; B Young: Kadina

Quite a few ins though
I'm just hoping this week will see some better results
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Q. » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:59 pm

Geez what's the lure at Kadina and Penola
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:35 pm

Q. wrote:Geez what's the lure at Kadina and Penola


All ex boarders going home to play
I think Ben Young is the only city slicker
He won the B Grade B&F but couldn't crack the A Grade
He's a med student and played for zip with us.
Im guessing but maybe he can earn something but still play with his mates going home
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:08 am

Q. wrote:Geez what's the lure at Kadina and Penola

NFI should be a decent club now too, whatever league they're in.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby hfoxe16 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:47 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:I'll have a go:
B.Coles NFI
B.Papps Kadina
C.Graetz injured
C.Pritchard OS
D.Clayfield Penola
F.Ellis Kadina
H.Latchford injured
N.Clayfield injured
W.Dalwood Naughty boy
W.Thompson Padthaway
C.Hannemann NFI
D. Foulis Mid North FL
J.Dalwood too old ;) B Coach
J. Graetz injured
J.Prest NFI
J. Ramsey NFI
J.Skeer NFI
N.Ellis Kadina
N.Mosey Penola (?)
S. Potts Go to the Oyster Bar Holdfast Shores for some good food
T.Wicks Played last week
Also; B Young: Kadina

Quite a few ins though
I'm just hoping this week will see some better results


J.Graetz - Overseas Holiday
C.Graetz- Works on some weekends can only play a handful of games
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:33 pm

jo172 wrote:Also think that PAOC has delegated their C1 as their C Grade side whereas last year it was their D7 side. May be mistaken though? I.e this year it's nominally their D Grade? I also think PAOC grades its players along a lot more "linear/traditional" talent model than Adelaide Uni for example.


Interesting if true.
So the 2016 Div 7 runners up (by a couple of points from memory) lost to ROCs C1s in 2017 by 30 goals?

I think we have an answer to the old "would a C1 side beat a Div 7 side?"
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:35 pm

jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby jo172 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:39 pm

Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?


That's actually an interesting point. Can someone suspended in an D1 game when it's the last game of the season nominally serve their suspension in one of the Grades that starts before D1?
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:44 pm

jo172 wrote:
Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?


That's actually an interesting point. Can someone suspended in an D1 game when it's the last game of the season nominally serve their suspension in one of the Grades that starts before D1?


At a guess I recon he'll sit the week out to be safe. But if they wanted to push the point, I doubt there is a bylaw that covers it.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby jo172 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:48 pm

Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:
Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?


That's actually an interesting point. Can someone suspended in an D1 game when it's the last game of the season nominally serve their suspension in one of the Grades that starts before D1?


At a guess I recon he'll sit the week out to be safe. But if they wanted to push the point, I doubt there is a bylaw that covers it.


Maybe he'd be free to play in D7 but not in D1?
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:18 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Q. wrote:Geez what's the lure at Kadina and Penola

NFI should be a decent club now too, whatever league they're in.

Plenty of potential players for that club
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Off The Wall » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:10 pm

Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Also think that PAOC has delegated their C1 as their C Grade side whereas last year it was their D7 side. May be mistaken though? I.e this year it's nominally their D Grade? I also think PAOC grades its players along a lot more "linear/traditional" talent model than Adelaide Uni for example.


Interesting if true.
So the 2016 Div 7 runners up (by a couple of points from memory) lost to ROCs C1s in 2017 by 30 goals?

I think we have an answer to the old "would a C1 side beat a Div 7 side?"

Not quite, if going by the list above, 20+ players out means a very weakened side for their C's
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby morell » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:19 pm

That's never been a question really because everyone knows the answer to that is "no".
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 pm

Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?

So, was he suspended for pushing Ryan Spittle into the goal post? I see the umpires are using the footage of that as a red card example. It would have nice if the umpire had produced a card on the day.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby Trader » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:44 pm

morell wrote:
Trader wrote:"would a C1 side beat a Div 7 side?"
That's never been a question really because everyone knows the answer to that is "no".


Well if PAOC are lining up their C's in C1 and D's in Div 7 as reported by Jo172, I'd suggest the answer is clearly yes!
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby finn » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:52 pm

jo172 wrote:
Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:Will Dalwood is suspended from the Grand Final I think Trader.


Ah, didn't realize that.

I see he got 2 games.
So give it's round 3 in Div 7 this week, we'd expect him to line up against Flinders Uni on Saturday?


That's actually an interesting point. Can someone suspended in an D1 game when it's the last game of the season nominally serve their suspension in one of the Grades that starts before D1?

Nope, as players can only drop one grade at a time too.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby S Demon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:57 pm

So if you played A grade last week, you can't play C grade this week? Or is this example different because it was a final. I tried (not very hard) to find the rules on this not so long ago as a team we played in the C grade had an A grader playing from the week before
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby finn » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:02 am

Trader wrote:
morell wrote:
Trader wrote:"would a C1 side beat a Div 7 side?"
That's never been a question really because everyone knows the answer to that is "no".


Well if PAOC are lining up their C's in C1 and D's in Div 7 as reported by Jo172, I'd suggest the answer is clearly yes!

My understanding is that PAOC looked at doing this but ended up leaving their c grade in div 7. Having seen quite a bit of c1 and div 7 over the last few years, top c1 sides would be mid range in div 7 with a point of difference being fitness levels. Certainly at Uni there's quite a bit of talent floating in both div 7 and c1 with both sides being roughly equal in talent; the c grade in div 7 is younger as div 7 is seen as a better stepping stone to a and b grade because of the longer games and structures that players are exposed to.
My understanding is that ROCS also had about 20 players missing out on a game.
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Re: Adelaide Footy League D7 - 2017

Postby finn » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:05 am

S Demon wrote:So if you played A grade last week, you can't play C grade this week? Or is this example different because it was a final. I tried (not very hard) to find the rules on this not so long ago as a team we played in the C grade had an A grader playing from the week before

We've always had the understanding that this can't be done unless the player in question has played more, or the same amount of games in the lower grade. In finals, if all grades Are in finals, players not selected in the a grade can play in any grade.
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