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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby poohbear » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:14 pm

wats the deal with compass this year how will they shape up?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:28 pm

Micky Conlan wrote:I can only imagine how good the standard of the gsfl would be this year if all those halfwits that voted the pts system in, had any idea what they were actually voting for.I believe we would no doubt have clubs pushing Willunga more so than ever,imagine what sort of a side the creek could come up with without the pts system.


But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby busta » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:49 pm

poohbear wrote:wats the deal with compass this year how will they shape up?


They could be a real dominant force with the inclusion of Scott Mcmahon (former Willunga twosman!)
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Eric_Gilchurch » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:30 pm

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poohbear wrote:wats the deal with compass this year how will they shape up?


They could be a real dominant force with the inclusion of Scott Mcmahon (former Willunga twosman!)


Saw him the other day and he was the size of a small house. Not sure if he'll compliment Mount Compass's running game!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby a2m » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:24 am

In Sydney at the moment, i was speaking to the former Encounter Bay coach who informed me the Loves had signed to play for Campbelltown over here and will be moving to Sydney this weekend. Anyone from Encounter Bay confirm this? cuzzy?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Way Down South » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:41 am

Eric_Gilchurch wrote:
busta wrote:
poohbear wrote:wats the deal with compass this year how will they shape up?


They could be a real dominant force with the inclusion of Scott Mcmahon (former Willunga twosman!)


Saw him the other day and he was the size of a small house. Not sure if he'll compliment Mount Compass's running game!


If this guy is a twosman for Willunga, and probably a reserves player at Compass by the sound of things, why all the barbed comments, is there more to it?.

Just that I was talking to him at cricket last week and he only had good things to say about Willunga, but just felt after a couple of years at trying to crack into Willungas side, he felt that a change and a fresh start may be what he needed to get enthusiastic and fit and maybe get an opportunity at seniors.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Yetti » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:47 am

a2m wrote:In Sydney at the moment, i was speaking to the former Encounter Bay coach who informed me the Loves had signed to play for Campbelltown over here and will be moving to Sydney this weekend. Anyone from Encounter Bay confirm this? cuzzy?


Is the former Encounter Bay Coach coaching Campbelltown over there?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby limb » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:24 am

This should answer your question Yetti http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info. ... &sID=59795
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby cuzzy » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:30 am

a2m wrote:In Sydney at the moment, i was speaking to the former Encounter Bay coach who informed me the Loves had signed to play for Campbelltown over here and will be moving to Sydney this weekend. Anyone from Encounter Bay confirm this? cuzzy?


Whow knows what they are doing mate, both of them and summner who has put in a clearance to tailem bend were out at training last night so who knows. As far as i was concerned summner has been cleared to tailem bend, and the love brothers were both going to play for a club in the rmfl. Although owen is a great player, i wouldnt waste your time even worrying about it, the bays would love to keep him around but he has been to two pre season sessions this year, dont think they will bother forcing him to make a decision just wait and see. I for one would like to see him stay around but if he is going to it would be good to get a decision and get him out on the track consistently
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby cuzzy » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:31 am

The Yetti wrote:
a2m wrote:In Sydney at the moment, i was speaking to the former Encounter Bay coach who informed me the Loves had signed to play for Campbelltown over here and will be moving to Sydney this weekend. Anyone from Encounter Bay confirm this? cuzzy?


Is the former Encounter Bay Coach coaching Campbelltown over there?


lets just hope he doesnt pull on the boots and put himself in there a grade full foward position. haha remember compass bassani
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby The Yetti » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:36 am

limb wrote:This should answer your question Yetti http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info. ... &sID=59795


Thanks Limb. Steve Bird rings a bell somewhere. Or am I thinking of a little bird that told me somthing? or maybe Dicky Bird
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:53 am

damian wrote:
Micky Conlan wrote:I can only imagine how good the standard of the gsfl would be this year if all those halfwits that voted the pts system in, had any idea what they were actually voting for.I believe we would no doubt have clubs pushing Willunga more so than ever,imagine what sort of a side the creek could come up with without the pts system.


But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:22 am

words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:
Micky Conlan wrote:I can only imagine how good the standard of the gsfl would be this year if all those halfwits that voted the pts system in, had any idea what they were actually voting for.I believe we would no doubt have clubs pushing Willunga more so than ever,imagine what sort of a side the creek could come up with without the pts system.


But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.


Good points there WOW..The fact that you must have locals to be competitivei very much agree with, and the points system will enforce that fact. Look at how cloe the Senior Colts have been in recent years, especially '08 - all local players in the colts, they start playing A-grade, each side picks up 4 or 5 recruits to better the standard of competition and all sides should be around the mark and many games would stat coming down to who has had a big pre-season, who is coached better or who plays better on the day. That's how i see the system working.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby a2m » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:27 am

Nah billy bass is the assistant coach out there, and yes cuzzy he is donning his brand new boots to play for them this year apparently...
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby teamwork » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:32 am

damian wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:
Micky Conlan wrote:I can only imagine how good the standard of the gsfl would be this year if all those halfwits that voted the pts system in, had any idea what they were actually voting for.I believe we would no doubt have clubs pushing Willunga more so than ever,imagine what sort of a side the creek could come up with without the pts system.


But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.


Good points there WOW..The fact that you must have locals to be competitivei very much agree with, and the points system will enforce that fact. Look at how cloe the Senior Colts have been in recent years, especially '08 - all local players in the colts, they start playing A-grade, each side picks up 4 or 5 recruits to better the standard of competition and all sides should be around the mark and many games would stat coming down to who has had a big pre-season, who is coached better or who plays better on the day. That's how i see the system working.



All very valid point's. Your theory Damian is great on paper but what does make it hard for side like Goolwa, Myponga, Yank is that these Senior colts finish school and move to Adelaide for UNI or work as jobs in these smaller towns are hard to come by. Once these kids/young adults move away its very hard to get them to remain interested and traveling back and forth for trainings and games.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:51 am

damian wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:
Micky Conlan wrote:I can only imagine how good the standard of the gsfl would be this year if all those halfwits that voted the pts system in, had any idea what they were actually voting for.I believe we would no doubt have clubs pushing Willunga more so than ever,imagine what sort of a side the creek could come up with without the pts system.


But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.


Good points there WOW..The fact that you must have locals to be competitivei very much agree with, and the points system will enforce that fact. Look at how cloe the Senior Colts have been in recent years, especially '08 - all local players in the colts, they start playing A-grade, each side picks up 4 or 5 recruits to better the standard of competition and all sides should be around the mark and many games would stat coming down to who has had a big pre-season, who is coached better or who plays better on the day. That's how i see the system working.


Senior colts was close last year. How did the clubs go with a small population base? Some sides need more than 4-5 recruits per year as i stated above. Pongy never tried to buy a flag, they recruited to be competetive. The point system should be staggered to alow clubs to be competetive & rebuild quicker. Tell me when pongy or the saints for example look like making the top 3 or 4?? It will take them along time unless other clubs lose alot of players or they can get around the point system some how?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby BJ Ernest » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:55 am

words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.


Good points there WOW..The fact that you must have locals to be competitivei very much agree with, and the points system will enforce that fact. Look at how cloe the Senior Colts have been in recent years, especially '08 - all local players in the colts, they start playing A-grade, each side picks up 4 or 5 recruits to better the standard of competition and all sides should be around the mark and many games would stat coming down to who has had a big pre-season, who is coached better or who plays better on the day. That's how i see the system working.


Senior colts was close last year. How did the clubs go with a small population base? Some sides need more than 4-5 recruits per year as i stated above. Pongy never tried to buy a flag, they recruited to be competetive. The point system should be staggered to alow clubs to be competetive & rebuild quicker.


I have zero sympathy for clubs who are groaning and moaning that the points system is unfair, doesnt allow them to recruit etc etc. Majority of the clubs voted it in, i would say hastily and for whatever reason they thought it was a great idea. Sure it needs some fine tuning, maybe even some big changes to be made but they voted it in so complaining they cant compete is their own fault, noone elses.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:56 am

Some constructive discussion today, i like it!!! Again, more good points TW takes a huge effort to commute to and from town for work let alon a kick with local lads and generally unless you become a tradie or a dairy farmer most of the youth will end up in town to work..plenty of arguments for and against but for now everyone has to work with the system, we will see in a few years how successful it is..
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:02 am

words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
damian wrote:But is Creeks (or any team) trying to buy a premiership good for the sustainability of the league? I think Creeks will push Willunga with their new recruits this year, we need to start looking at what the points sytem can do in the long term, i believe it is still in the best interest of all clubs and the league. Some clubs might not see that at the moment but football does go in cycles. Willunga (as an example) may have many retirements in the next few seasons and possibly won't be able to recruit 3 or 4 to cover them in the one off season, while Victor may have many good local players either return or come through the juniors allowing them more and more recruits each off-season.


So what if you try to buy a flag, good on the creeks. I know they had another gun player who played league footy lined up but could not get him because of the points system. Im not having a go at you Damien, a good debate in fact, if clubs or the league worry about long term some clubs wont be here. How are clubs down the bottom mean't to keep going? Players will get sick of being belted/not having a chance at a flag & move on or not play. Then how do you convince recruits to come to your club? All you will get is players that take/want big $$$ & go after a year or 2. On the current system how can you be competetive if you dont have locals?? I was involved at pongy for a long time and we relied on recruits, payed or not, Guns & fringe, 6-10 players, to get 2 sides on the park & they always will. Im sure they are not the only club in the same boat.


Good points there WOW..The fact that you must have locals to be competitivei very much agree with, and the points system will enforce that fact. Look at how cloe the Senior Colts have been in recent years, especially '08 - all local players in the colts, they start playing A-grade, each side picks up 4 or 5 recruits to better the standard of competition and all sides should be around the mark and many games would stat coming down to who has had a big pre-season, who is coached better or who plays better on the day. That's how i see the system working.


Senior colts was close last year. How did the clubs go with a small population base? Some sides need more than 4-5 recruits per year as i stated above. Pongy never tried to buy a flag, they recruited to be competetive. The point system should be staggered to alow clubs to be competetive & rebuild quicker. Tell me when pongy or the saints for example look like making the top 3 or 4?? It will take them along time unless other clubs lose alot of players or they can get around the point system some how?


I think from memory it was Pongy, Yank and Victor that were the only teams come round 18 that couldn't make finals..A few more points allocated to bottom sides would even the competition up a lot quicker and keep the standard of the league up by allowing more players in..Pongy will take some time as there just isn't the numbers out there but Goolwa have a big core of young decent local players that they can build around, they are probably 2 or 3 years from making a real go at the top 3
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby kappars » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:32 am

Clubs need to do more to attract 0 point players and nurture them.
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