RD8 Sturt v Panthers Match Review

[Cambridge Clarrie]

As a long term Southie the club is showing real signs of genuine commited improvement which reminds me of the early days of the Hayden Bunton era when from the ashes a nucleus of an excellent team was being assembled.

What do you base this "genuine improvement" on ?
League side is 2nd bottom on 2 wins and your other grades are bottom and winless.

Fair call!

I know what he means though. South will probably end up second bottom but there are a few signs that they're headed in the right direction...

[Blueandwhiteforever]

Clarridge the mere fact that South entered inside 50 twice as many times to 3/4 time must tell you who were playing the better footy just couldnt finish it off. Our 8 points to your one. Sturt were extremely good in finishing due to delivery to Chambers his straight kicking and lack of South pressure on the delivery. Also dont know how many flucky snaps you goaled from from little or no pressure. I think with Talia back in defence as well bringing in Carlile will strengthen this. May get Cook and Doughty back from crows after there poor form. I would drop McKenna tries hard but not skillful enough and hopefully Turner can come back in add some firepower up front due to McKernans poor last 3 games. Must get more from McKernan. How can one player show complete dominance in one game and have no impact the following 3 games.

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Clarridge the mere fact that South entered inside 50 twice as many times to 3/4 time must tell you who were playing the better footy just couldnt finish it off. Our 8 points to your one. Sturt were extremely good in finishing due to delivery to Chambers his straight kicking and lack of South pressure on the delivery. Also dont know how many flucky snaps you goaled from from little or no pressure. I think with Talia back in defence as well bringing in Carlile will strengthen this. May get Cook and Doughty back from crows after there poor form. I would drop McKenna tries hard but not skillful enough and hopefully Turner can come back in add some firepower up front due to McKernans poor last 3 games. Must get more from McKernan. How can one player show complete dominance in one game and have no impact the following 3 games.

That tells me you got the ball and were very good at wasting it. You went inside 50 twice as often as Sturt and yet at 3/4 time you were still behind.

Yeah, good footy champ...

[southee]

Clarridge the mere fact that South entered inside 50 twice as many times to 3/4 time must tell you who were playing the better footy just couldnt finish it off. Our 8 points to your one. Sturt were extremely good in finishing due to delivery to Chambers his straight kicking and lack of South pressure on the delivery. Also dont know how many flucky snaps you goaled from from little or no pressure. I think with Talia back in defence as well bringing in Carlile will strengthen this. May get Cook and Doughty back from crows after there poor form. I would drop McKenna tries hard but not skillful enough and hopefully Turner can come back in add some firepower up front due to McKernans poor last 3 games. Must get more from McKernan. How can one player show complete dominance in one game and have no impact the following 3 games.

That tells me you got the ball and were very good at wasting it. You went inside 50 twice as often as Sturt and yet at 3/4 time you were still behind.

Yeah, good footy champ...

As Blue and White said ....It was Sturt's delivery to Chambers that made the difference on the day. South were definately the better side on the day but just could not convert on the scoreboard when it was in their forward 50m line.

People who are saying there is no improvement in this South side from 2009....must have rocks in their heads!!!!
We got some absolute beltings last year....the side is young and learning. We have been very competitive this year....with the only belting being North Adelaide by about 50 points.

I seriously see this side improving through the next few years where as other sides in the competition are on their way down and you can see that!!!

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

[CUTTERMAN]

Can't quite understand this "South were first to the ball" stuff, thought it was pretty even and 188 kicks to 155, 87 marks to 38, 156 handballs to100 and 60 tackles to 67 would all indicate that South weren't first to the ball enough to warrant double the free kicks.

Believe it or not statistics do lie.

Two of the most important statistical areas in todays footy are tackles and inside 50's. As you have pointed out the tackle count was 60-67- pretty close. The most telling statistic from Souths point of view was the inside 50's. At 3/4 time South had entered their 50m arc twice as many times as Sturt. Check out your own clubs stats if you like.
For all of that South had very little to show for it on the scoreboard, hence most South supporters disappointment in the end result.

My point is about the free kick count and the supposition that South "earnt" those frees for being first to the ball. In watching the game I thought both teams were pretty even in hard ball gets and being first to the ball. That South have more tackles than Sturt would say that South were chasing posession, that Sturt had a crap load more disposals would PROBABLY lead one to believe that Sturt were first to the ball more often than South. Disposals can of course be misleading but there's nothing that hints to South being first to the ball in any stats that i've seen, certainly not by using inside 50's! I don't care what your bloody inside 50's were to half time compared to Sturts, I'm interested in the whole overview of the game to understand this perception that South were first to the ball and deserved all those ridiculous frees.

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Clarridge the mere fact that South entered inside 50 twice as many times to 3/4 time must tell you who were playing the better footy just couldnt finish it off. Our 8 points to your one. Sturt were extremely good in finishing due to delivery to Chambers his straight kicking and lack of South pressure on the delivery. Also dont know how many flucky snaps you goaled from from little or no pressure. I think with Talia back in defence as well bringing in Carlile will strengthen this. May get Cook and Doughty back from crows after there poor form. I would drop McKenna tries hard but not skillful enough and hopefully Turner can come back in add some firepower up front due to McKernans poor last 3 games. Must get more from McKernan. How can one player show complete dominance in one game and have no impact the following 3 games.

That tells me you got the ball and were very good at wasting it. You went inside 50 twice as often as Sturt and yet at 3/4 time you were still behind.

Yeah, good footy champ...

As Blue and White said ....It was Sturt's delivery to Chambers that made the difference on the day. South were definately the better side on the day but just could not convert on the scoreboard when it was in their forward 50m line.

People who are saying there is no improvement in this South side from 2009....must have rocks in their heads!!!!
We got some absolute beltings last year....the side is young and learning. We have been very competitive this year....with the only belting being North Adelaide by about 50 points.

I seriously see this side improving through the next few years where as other sides in the competition are on their way down and you can see that!!!

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

Shoot me down - no Williams...no Panthers...

And BTW Southee, you can only improve from where you came from.

[smithy]

People who are saying there is no improvement in this South side from 2009....must have rocks in their heads!!!!
We got some absolute beltings last year....the side is young and learning. We have been very competitive this year....with the only belting being North Adelaide by about 50 points.

I seriously see this side improving through the next few years where as other sides in the competition are on their way down and you can see that!!!

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

I'll give you a big tip.

In 1993, sturt won it's first 2 games and came within 3 points to the reigning premiers the next week.

They still finished rock bottom.

Does over performing for a new coach sound familiar????jack cahill anyone.

Wait till the season end before getting too excited panther fans.
All this hoo ha about improvement because you're not getting flogged tells me you're still accepting losses.
South have done that for far too long.
I seriously wish your club good luck but their is a long way to go yet.

[saintal]

After three seasons (ok, and the many years prior to 2006..) of absolute ineptitude, with countless humiliating beltings, one could forgive us South fans having mild optimism about the year ahead.

Having said that, there is no reason to accept a loss to a side that is playing pretty mediocre footy at the moment. (I rate Sturt very highly, but they have been playing far from their best) The points were there for the taking but we weren't good enough when and where it mattered.

I for one, walked away very disappointed. Losses like that often sting more than the 10 goal thumpings.

Sturt won. The umps were poor. Lets all move on to next week

[am Bays]

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

Missed last years final series??? In particular the 1st Semi and Prelim....

[Voice]

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

Missed last years final series??? In particular the 1st Semi and Prelim....

Good call am!

[am Bays]

Good call am!

Ahh, for an obvious reason I beg to differ....

[southee]

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

Missed last years final series??? In particular the 1st Semi and Prelim....

Unfit in the Grand Final....mmmmmm...outcome??

[Voice]

...and yes, shoot me down but no Chambers...no Sturt. IMO

Missed last years final series??? In particular the 1st Semi and Prelim....

Unfit in the Grand Final....mmmmmm...outcome??

mmmm....got to the GF without him....mmmmm.... Surely you're not that silly as to argue with that logic southee

[southee]

Can be silly at times.......

[Blueandwhiteforever]

Dont see any point quibling over frees and whos in front they are purely educated opinions. Not sure if cutterman was at the game or just a stats man but it was clear as the nose on your face that South were more aggressive at the ball than sturt and more often than not south got to the ball first up to 3/4 time. Yes a good side would have killed Sturt off by then but poor finishing is poor footy. Sturt have it down to a fine art of getting any spilt possession out the back to a free man and run forward which south let you run far too easy. Even though we didnt win I am looking forward to some day soon when we can consistently knock Blues off. I think they are generally on there way down from what I saw. Last year was last year Blues were a far better team than. This year if you lost Chambers you would stuggle big time.

[MST]

That's twice now where a reference has been made regarding Sturt being 'on the way down'. I have to say, it's a pretty narrow minded view coming from a couple of South supporters that are clearly basing their opinion and what they have seen in the two games against their own club. Granted, the two times Sturt have come up against South thus far in season 2010 the Blues have been a little lacklustre. They got out of jail at Noarlunga in round one, but even in that game 20 minutes of good football was almost good enough to pinch the contest (and Chambers only kicked two goals from memory). At Unley on Saturday, again the Blues only played in patches but save for some poor finishing in the last quarter (4.7), could have won by much more. Of course South supporters could suggest that they deserved to be in front by a few goals at 3qt, but in my honest opinion at least four of Souths 9 goals to that point had come from free kicks directly in front of goal....whether that be because of poor umpiring, lack of discipline from Sturt OR a combination of both, the fact remains just that.

Sturt have not consistently hit their straps as yet this season, apart from the dismantling of the Dogs at Elizabeth and the comfortable victory over the Bays at Unley. Mark my words though, the touch, fitness and run is slowly coming back and when it does, look out. Far too often over the previous few seasons Sturt have been blowing away sides early in the year only to run out of puff when the whips are cracking. There has been a different approach to things this year and it is designed to have the side peaking at the right time of year.

As for looking forward to 'consistently knocking the Blues off' I'm afraid that might not be a reality for some time yet. There is plenty of terrific talent coming through the reserves and U18's to feel positive that Sturt will be a force for seasons to come....unlike the South reserves (0-7) and U18's (0-7).

See you at Unley again in five weeks time. Sturt presented South with a golden chance to knock them off last weekend and weren't good enough to take it. I am willing to bet we won't be as generous next time and the result will be well beyond doubt long before the three quarter time siren.

[Ronnie]

Hats off to Ron Fuller, for once again assembling a super competitive outfit. Sure, it all looks a little ugly, but he is making progress.
Sturt were very patchy, but they lifted when they needed to and deserved their win. A lot of talent still to really fire though, maybe they will at the business end of the year.
Great to see Haydn Cutting, the old South GM at the ground, a terrific bloke!

[westcoastpanther]

See you at Unley again in five weeks time. Sturt presented South with a golden chance to knock them off last weekend and weren't good enough to take it. I am willing to bet we won't be as generous next time and the result will be well beyond doubt long before the three quarter time siren.

I am sure I read exactly the same as that around seven weeks ago......

[southee]

See you at Unley again in five weeks time. Sturt presented South with a golden chance to knock them off last weekend and weren't good enough to take it. I am willing to bet we won't be as generous next time and the result will be well beyond doubt long before the three quarter time siren.

I am sure I read exactly the same as that around seven weeks ago......

I know I heard it ringing in my ears at the end of the game at Noarlunga in Round 1 ....

[purch]

As Blue and White said ....It was Sturt's delivery to Chambers that made the difference on the day. South were definately the better side on the day but just could not convert on the scoreboard when it was in their forward 50m line.

Yet they had double the free kicks and lost...You've lost me there mate. It's not very often that the better side on the day actually loses.