Sack Craig

[Hondo]

From what I can gather Booney the "press conference" Craig and the "behind closed doors" are two different animals.

If you judged every coach by their 5 minute press conferences then Terry Wallace would be the master communicator and you'd wonder how Bomber Thompson ever motivated anybody.

You won't be able to establish what you say you are trying to establish by analysing his press conferences. Ditto any coach. So are you really asking for our opinion here or just posing a rhetorical question?

[Dutchy]

Why does Burton get a dreeam ride back into the AFL while Props and Knights have to come back thru the SANFL?

[overloaded]

Why does Burton get a dreeam ride back into the AFL while Props and Knights have to come back thru the SANFL?

Good question Dutchy. I would have rather have had Porps or Knights half fit than a half fit Burton.
Knights played OK in the SANFL.
Burton has come back before through the SANFL, he was useless.

[Gingernuts]

A bit of a hostile reception here Booney.

I am a Craig supporter, but I have to admit I'm a little tired of the 'party' lines that he keeps rolling out.

At first I found them refreshing, but with repetition they have become quite tiresome.

The bloke has been around for 5+ years now though, pretty tough to come up with new material. I can't really think of a coach who can do much better in the communication stakes to be honest.

Maybe Malthouse & Sheedy just for the pure entertainment value of the gobbledegook that they come up with sometimes.

[Gingernuts]

Why does Burton get a dreeam ride back into the AFL while Props and Knights have to come back thru the SANFL?

Good question Dutchy. I would have rather have had Porps or Knights half fit than a half fit Burton.
Knights played OK in the SANFL.
Burton has come back before through the SANFL, he was useless.

Totally agree. Definite mistake by the selection panel there.

[Footy Smart]

I dont see what you guys want from him in 5 minute interview, whiteboard, replays????

Booney his general comments to the public are just that.... general comments

Adelaide who has had a mediocre list for many years and probably over achieved because they are well drilled and fit. This comes from the coach Neil Craig

I dont care what he says in a post match interview i care about the performance and the improvement of the perfomance from week to week. As/If we get players back we will improve and what he says in a press conf will become insignificant

[Booney]

From what I can gather Booney the "press conference" Craig and the "behind closed doors" are two different animals.

If you judged every coach by their 5 minute press conferences then Terry Wallace would be the master communicator and you'd wonder how Bomber Thompson ever motivated anybody.

You won't be able to establish what you say you are trying to establish by analysing his press conferences. Ditto any coach. So are you really asking for our opinion here or just posing a rhetorical question?

I'm not so sure about that.

Mick Malthouse in press conferences is measured yet clear and leaves you doubting little about what he thinks of the question or the person asking the question. I would think he is very much like that behind closed doors.

Mark Williams rides the emotions of the game far too much in his press conferences and can be anything from sick and sorry looking to overly cocky and arrogant.

Mark Thompson appears measured and calm but also has an air of "dont f*** with me" about him. Perhaps he too is like that behind closed doors.

I think I am asking for an opinion in the main, but your opinion on the relationship between the way they speak in public and how they would speak to / teach the playing group. IMO not many Crow players would "fear" Craig like Malthouse would have over the Collingwood players. Not fear itself but a healthy blend of fear and respect.

[Hondo]

Sheedy could be entertaining but he was just using a different style to achieve the same end. Say what you want to say and don't say what you don't. if he didn't want to talk about the game he'd talk about martians. No coach is going to get up and spill his guts on every single issue at a press conference. Rightly or wrongly, that's the way it is.

I don't listen to any coaches' press conferences if I can avoid it for that very reason. None of them really say anything.

What responsibility the coach has to communicate and be accountable to the fans and what the right avenue to do this is debatable. Some coaches write up a weekly review for the fans and put it on the web-site rather than rely on a 5 minute grilling by the journalists. Journos are fully entitled to grill by the way, but the Q&A isn't always the best way for the coach to get his message across to the fans.

Here's another story with quotes from NC, not sure if the critics think there's more to be said?
http://www.afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

[Hondo]

I think I am asking for an opinion in the main, but your opinion on the relationship between the way they speak in public and how they would speak to / teach the playing group. IMO not many Crow players would "fear" Craig like Malthouse would have over the Collingwood players. Not fear itself but a healthy blend of fear and respect.

Again though, you're speculating and drawing conclusions solely from his press conferences. You could be right and you could be wrong but the chances are the styles of all coaches in press conferences are poles apart from how they are with the players.

Honestly, you'd have to ask the players wouldn't you? No-one on here can give you the answers you are looking for.

[Footy Smart]

I think I am asking for an opinion in the main, but your opinion on the relationship between the way they speak in public and how they would speak to / teach the playing group. IMO not many Crow players would "fear" Craig like Malthouse would have over the Collingwood players. Not fear itself but a healthy blend of fear and respect.

Again though, you're speculating and drawing conclusions solely from his press conferences. You could be right and you could be wrong but the chances are the styles of all coaches in press conferences are poles apart from how they are with the players.

Honestly, you'd have to ask the players wouldn't you? No-one on here can give you the answers you are looking for.

Exactly Hondo

We arent in the changerooms, we dont see the game plan etc

One thing that Craig does is demand effort and discipline, hence our performances in the last 5 years! (minus finals for you conspiracy theroists)

[Booney]

I think I am asking for an opinion in the main, but your opinion on the relationship between the way they speak in public and how they would speak to / teach the playing group. IMO not many Crow players would "fear" Craig like Malthouse would have over the Collingwood players. Not fear itself but a healthy blend of fear and respect.

Again though, you're speculating and drawing conclusions solely from his press conferences. You could be right and you could be wrong but the chances are the styles of all coaches in press conferences are poles apart from how they are with the players.

Honestly, you'd have to ask the players wouldn't you? No-one on here can give you the answers you are looking for.

Just wanting to know if others perceive him as I do and how they draw that conclusion, if it is the same way I do. As Nigel's brother said, we aren't in the rooms so we dont know.

[Hondo]

OK

No, I don't draw the same conclusion as you

[Rik E Boy]

A bit of a hostile reception here Booney.

I am a Craig supporter, but I have to admit I'm a little tired of the 'party' lines that he keeps rolling out.

I reckon Booney should be a Craig fan as well. Back in the nineties Port teams regularly defeated Craig's Redleg outfits when it counted. Perhaps if we had a different coach maybe Port wouldn't have won quite as many premierships.

This is the real reason why I am not a Craig fan. The 95 and 96 teams weren't as solid as Rhode's 97 outfit but I believe we should have won one of those flags (96 probably the one that got away IMO).

regards,

REB

[Gingernuts]

A bit of a hostile reception here Booney.

I am a Craig supporter, but I have to admit I'm a little tired of the 'party' lines that he keeps rolling out.

I reckon Booney should be a Craig fan as well. Back in the nineties Port teams regularly defeated Craig's Redleg outfits when it counted. Perhaps if we had a different coach maybe Port wouldn't have won quite as many premierships.

This is the real reason why I am not a Craig fan. The 95 and 96 teams weren't as solid as Rhode's 97 outfit but I believe we should have won one of those flags (96 probably the one that got away IMO).

regards,

REB

So are you saying he's learnt nothing in 15 years??

[Rik E Boy]

So are you saying he's learnt nothing in 15 years??

I wouldn't say that but as Led Zeppelin said 'The Song Remains the Same'......

regards,

REB

[Booney]

A bit of a hostile reception here Booney.

I am a Craig supporter, but I have to admit I'm a little tired of the 'party' lines that he keeps rolling out.

I reckon Booney should be a Craig fan as well. Back in the nineties Port teams regularly defeated Craig's Redleg outfits when it counted. Perhaps if we had a different coach maybe Port wouldn't have won quite as many premierships.

This is the real reason why I am not a Craig fan. The 95 and 96 teams weren't as solid as Rhode's 97 outfit but I believe we should have won one of those flags (96 probably the one that got away IMO).

regards,

REB

True. As bad as Ports recent form has been ( not including 2010 ) he has at least given me something to smile about.

Oh, and the lycra

[overloaded]

sharpen the knives!

[tiger07andbeyond]

Jump before you get pushed Craigy.

What a disgrace losing to Melbourne.

[Sojourner]

I would be a little surprised if the Crows did come out and sack Neil Craig after only three matches this season, one would think that even if that was their decision that they would wait until the end of the season. If they did do that, then they have to find someone to put in his place, if it was David Noble, would they do any better for the rest of the season and would they give him the job for 2011 anyway?

[sapaul]

Bickley and Viney would be ahead of Noble surely?