SAAFL Div 5 & 5R (2010)

[Farbs]

i know its still 15 days until the first bounce, but i thought some tipping may be in order to create some interest in the games.

LM, time to drag out your tipping spreadsheet from '09 if you wouldn't mind.

BOSFC v North Haven @ Klemzig
Hectorville v Adelaide Lutheran @ Daly
Brahma Lodge v Rosewater @ Brahma Lodge
Plympton v Elizabeth @ Plympton - match of the round IMO
Hope Valley v Smithfield @ Hope Valley

Hey mate, I'll get it up and running again, I'm off for a couple of weeks so tip away everyone and I'll fix it all up when I return, I plan on not touching a computer in the meantime.
Just a note everyone, just let me now on here or pm if you wish to participate, if you miss a round, you will get the same as the lowest score for that round.

Food work LM, i'm in!

My tips are

Havens
Lutheran
Brahma
Plympton
Valleys

Yeah I'm hungry again too

Haha....damn chubby fingers!!

[Jabber]

Why don't all the clubs across the whole amateur league sign some kind of treaty that states no club will pay players and any club caught doing so will be banned from the league for 12 months or something like that. That way we can weed out all the greedy "shop themselves around" players, the smaller struggling clubs will still be here in 10 years time and we can return to what this competion is actually called - South Australia AMATEUR Football League.
Imagine how much money could be saved across all the divisions and spent on other things around the clubs? It's not like we win prizemoney for winning flags, so why invest so much?

Just a thought...

Wont work because Clubs will (or are) just tell everybody they don't pay players and sort out with the sponsors to pay the players directly. And then tell people that, on paper, they don't pay anyone.

The whole exercise is simply silly in my opinion. If you're paying just pay them, who cares. If you can budget for it, then good on you. But the clubs that go out of their way to say they are not paying is a bit childish.

[Lightning McQueen]

Why don't all the clubs across the whole amateur league sign some kind of treaty that states no club will pay players and any club caught doing so will be banned from the league for 12 months or something like that. That way we can weed out all the greedy "shop themselves around" players, the smaller struggling clubs will still be here in 10 years time and we can return to what this competion is actually called - South Australia AMATEUR Football League.
Imagine how much money could be saved across all the divisions and spent on other things around the clubs? It's not like we win prizemoney for winning flags, so why invest so much?

Just a thought...

Wont work because Clubs will (or are) just tell everybody they don't pay players and sort out with the sponsors to pay the players directly. And then tell people that, on paper, they don't pay anyone.

The whole exercise is simply silly in my opinion. If you're paying just pay them, who cares. If you can budget for it, then good on you. But the clubs that go out of their way to say they are not paying is a bit childish.

It was "just a thought" a bloody good one at that. What exercise do you find silly?

[Executive Member]

Why don't all the clubs across the whole amateur league sign some kind of treaty that states no club will pay players and any club caught doing so will be banned from the league for 12 months or something like that. That way we can weed out all the greedy "shop themselves around" players, the smaller struggling clubs will still be here in 10 years time and we can return to what this competion is actually called - South Australia AMATEUR Football League.
Imagine how much money could be saved across all the divisions and spent on other things around the clubs? It's not like we win prizemoney for winning flags, so why invest so much?

Just a thought...

Wont work because Clubs will (or are) just tell everybody they don't pay players and sort out with the sponsors to pay the players directly. And then tell people that, on paper, they don't pay anyone.

The whole exercise is simply silly in my opinion. If you're paying just pay them, who cares. If you can budget for it, then good on you. But the clubs that go out of their way to say they are not paying is a bit childish.

It was "just a thought" a bloody good one at that. What exercise do you find silly?

I seem to remember back in the 90's you still werent allowed to pay - interesting to see the Div 1 sides running around back then that werent playing players
Infact I know for a fact that players at Broadview in the late 80's got paid straight after the game cash in an envelope in the change rooms - seems that sponsors paid them directly as if they were caught they would have been kicked out the league

The same reason the salary cap is a joke - cant be policed as the league doesnt have the resources to do it

[zedman]

mid 80s i remember playing riverside..after the game we saw the empty envelopes on the ground in the changerooms

[custardarm]

i know its still 15 days until the first bounce, but i thought some tipping may be in order to create some interest in the games.

LM, time to drag out your tipping spreadsheet from '09 if you wouldn't mind.

BOSFC v North Haven @ Klemzig
Hectorville v Adelaide Lutheran @ Daly
Brahma Lodge v Rosewater @ Brahma Lodge
Plympton v Elizabeth @ Plympton - match of the round IMO
Hope Valley v Smithfield @ Hope Valley

hey sprint i know you have probably said earlier but how many games are u playing at klemzig(gaza??) because we had a novel idea for an ice bath for our a grade this year we were going to get all the excess ice from our drunken supporters eskys and tip it in the swimming centres pool voilla ice bath if its at gaza we will have to let them have a roll in the sand pit then give them some oats

[TIRED TIGER]

why do all the club sides cop it about money? when we tried to get trevor hill at broadies he went to adelaide college instead,not for money but because he preferred to teach in adelaide rather than port augusta.but thats not paying players is it? chops mutton made sure of that deal

[Jabber]

Why don't all the clubs across the whole amateur league sign some kind of treaty that states no club will pay players and any club caught doing so will be banned from the league for 12 months or something like that. That way we can weed out all the greedy "shop themselves around" players, the smaller struggling clubs will still be here in 10 years time and we can return to what this competion is actually called - South Australia AMATEUR Football League.
Imagine how much money could be saved across all the divisions and spent on other things around the clubs? It's not like we win prizemoney for winning flags, so why invest so much?

Just a thought...

Wont work because Clubs will (or are) just tell everybody they don't pay players and sort out with the sponsors to pay the players directly. And then tell people that, on paper, they don't pay anyone.

The whole exercise is simply silly in my opinion. If you're paying just pay them, who cares. If you can budget for it, then good on you. But the clubs that go out of their way to say they are not paying is a bit childish.

It was "just a thought" a bloody good one at that. What exercise do you find silly?

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

[custardarm]

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

i think u will find that those stating non payment (LM, duncs and myself) were merely responding to implications they were and it seems people like to throw it out there early just in case you have a good year so the old so how much did that flag cost ya can come out proudly hehe ,for what its worth teams without juniors have to i think to progress up the div's and i dont see a problem whether you do or dont pay as long as you have a club structure that can support it and not destroy clubs as we have all seen in the past

[MADDOG3]

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

Many of the statements regarding the lack of player payments at a club are defensive ones, but they come from being accused of paying, like it's a crime to give your players any form of remuneration.

No-one's perfect, but it's hard to see what a person gains by implying that someone's a liar, when their (player payment) info is unreliable and/or second/third-hand.

[Jabber]

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

i think u will find that those stating non payment (LM, duncs and myself) were merely responding to implications they were and it seems people like to throw it out there early just in case you have a good year so the old so how much did that flag cost ya can come out proudly hehe ,for what its worth teams without juniors have to i think to progress up the div's and i dont see a problem whether you do or dont pay as long as you have a club structure that can support it and not destroy clubs as we have all seen in the past

Fair call. I just think it would be refreshing to hear a club say 'yeah we pay players, big deal'. Instead of all this garbage that we read on here and hear throught he grape vine.

The most important point here i think is the reason that most people don't believe there are clubs that aren't paying, is because there are definately clubs that are paying and they are saying that they are not. Makes it hard for those that actually don't pay to say they don't. having said that, does it make the club a better club if they don't pay? or for that matter if they do pay?

There are arguments for each. But my opinion is who cares! Whatever your doing, just do it, but DONT LIE ABOUT IT

[custardarm]

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

i think u will find that those stating non payment (LM, duncs and myself) were merely responding to implications they were and it seems people like to throw it out there early just in case you have a good year so the old so how much did that flag cost ya can come out proudly hehe ,for what its worth teams without juniors have to i think to progress up the div's and i dont see a problem whether you do or dont pay as long as you have a club structure that can support it and not destroy clubs as we have all seen in the past

Fair call. I just think it would be refreshing to hear a club say 'yeah we pay players, big deal'. Instead of all this garbage that we read on here and hear throught he grape vine.

The most important point here i think is the reason that most people don't believe there are clubs that aren't paying, is because there are definately clubs that are paying and they are saying that they are not. Makes it hard for those that actually don't pay to say they don't. having said that, does it make the club a better club if they don't pay? or for that matter if they do pay?

There are arguments for each. But my opinion is who cares! Whatever your doing, just do it, but DONT LIE ABOUT IT

IMO idont care if anyone pays or not and i damn well hope we (elizabeth) aren't paying anyone cos in my 17th year of playing now i havent seen a cent haha they better pay retrospectively i'd be up for a bit of coin

[Jabber]

No, not your idea as silly, just the exercise of clubs, or club representatives, self tyre pumping about the fact that they do not pay players, like its some sort of 'off field victory' that they can put a great side on the park and not pay them. Its insane. Time wasting a plenty. Especially if it turns out that they are paying them, by way of sponsors. In my opinion if you have money in the budget for it, then responsibly go and do it. No big deal.

Many of the statements regarding the lack of player payments at a club are defensive ones, but they come from being accused of paying, like it's a crime to give your players any form of remuneration.

No-one's perfect, but it's hard to see what a person gains by implying that someone's a liar, when their (player payment) info is unreliable and/or second/third-hand.

But its put as 'accused of paying' as if a crime is being comitted. Which it clearly isnt!

If the club has the funds, and feels it can manage it, then i cannot see any issues.

If someone can afford a porche then buy a porche! Its not against the law!

but don't buy a porche and tell everyone its a camry, when its clearly a porche!

[sprinttospace]

i know its still 15 days until the first bounce, but i thought some tipping may be in order to create some interest in the games.

LM, time to drag out your tipping spreadsheet from '09 if you wouldn't mind.

BOSFC v North Haven @ Klemzig
Hectorville v Adelaide Lutheran @ Daly
Brahma Lodge v Rosewater @ Brahma Lodge
Plympton v Elizabeth @ Plympton - match of the round IMO
Hope Valley v Smithfield @ Hope Valley

hey sprint i know you have probably said earlier but how many games are u playing at klemzig(gaza??) because we had a novel idea for an ice bath for our a grade this year we were going to get all the excess ice from our drunken supporters eskys and tip it in the swimming centres pool voilla ice bath if its at gaza we will have to let them have a roll in the sand pit then give them some oats

just the one in rd 1. you head our way in rd 18 don't you?

[The Dark Knight]

Why don't all the clubs across the whole amateur league sign some kind of treaty that states no club will pay players and any club caught doing so will be banned from the league for 12 months or something like that. That way we can weed out all the greedy "shop themselves around" players, the smaller struggling clubs will still be here in 10 years time and we can return to what this competion is actually called - South Australia AMATEUR Football League.
Imagine how much money could be saved across all the divisions and spent on other things around the clubs? It's not like we win prizemoney for winning flags, so why invest so much?

Just a thought...

S demon you have posted one of the best replys ever on SA footy.net. There are clubs and players around the SAAFL that need to learn that we play for the love of the game and winning a premership with our mates, not for money

[The Dark Knight]

Absolutely, this topic of discussions borders on as boring as the whole Lara Bingle thing.

Give it a rest eh?

as long as lara is in a bikini it is NEVER boring..

over rated
I will take jen Hawkins all day every day over the other B Grade celeb 8)

Hell yeah!

[The Dark Knight]

i know its still 15 days until the first bounce, but i thought some tipping may be in order to create some interest in the games.

LM, time to drag out your tipping spreadsheet from '09 if you wouldn't mind.

BOSFC v North Haven @ Klemzig
Hectorville v Adelaide Lutheran @ Daly
Brahma Lodge v Rosewater @ Brahma Lodge
Plympton v Elizabeth @ Plympton - match of the round IMO
Hope Valley v Smithfield @ Hope Valley

I'll go with,

Us over BF-It will be nice to play at Klemzig, our coach from last year SOD, who coaches Gaza's Reserves might come and have a look after their game. I so wanna see him again, not

Lutheran over Hectoville
The Blodge over Rosewater
Elizabeth over plympton
Smithfield over Hope Valley

[carey]

blackfriars
A/L
brahma
eliz
smithfield

[LMA]

i know its still 15 days until the first bounce, but i thought some tipping may be in order to create some interest in the games.

LM, time to drag out your tipping spreadsheet from '09 if you wouldn't mind.

BOSFC v North Haven @ Klemzig
Hectorville v Adelaide Lutheran @ Daly
Brahma Lodge v Rosewater @ Brahma Lodge
Plympton v Elizabeth @ Plympton - match of the round IMO
Hope Valley v Smithfield @ Hope Valley

I'll go with,

Us over BF-It will be nice to play at Klemzig, our coach from last year SOD, who coaches Gaza's Reserves might come and have a look after their game. I so wanna see him again, not

Lutheran over Hectoville
The Blodge over Rosewater
Elizabeth over plympton
Smithfield over Hope Valley

Triple Header that day TDK our C grade are playing Gaza after your A's.

[S Demon]

LM, I'll go with:

Blackfriars
Adelaide Lutheran
Brahma Lodge
Plympton
Hope Valley