Angry Anderson blames 'other cultures' for Aussie violence

[(S)aintbackline]

There are some very poor attitudes on display here.

I guess the Indian students that have paid a sh!tload to come here and get a good education are also responsible for themselves getting beaten up by racist, redneck Australians.

Racism is the most counterproductive, evil problem the world has ever faced. It's been around almost as long as mankind and while it remains, violence will continue.

Racism = violence.

Mate alot of Indians get beaten up by Indians why dont we see that in the News or does that not make a good news story!
I think its crap that you call them Redneck Australians, how do we know the full story of what happens when the Media wants to beat up the story to make Aussies look bad, for all we know the indian student could have started any of the fights that get reported on..........

[devilsadvocate]

There are some very poor attitudes on display here.

I guess the Indian students that have paid a sh!tload to come here and get a good education are also responsible for themselves getting beaten up by racist, redneck Australians.

Racism is the most counterproductive, evil problem the world has ever faced. It's been around almost as long as mankind and while it remains, violence will continue.

Racism = violence.

Australia has a pretty good record on immigration i would've thought, having accepted so many from all over the globe. We stack up against any society for our openess and tolerance.
The multicultural lobby however would have anyone who dare question the current wisdom of cultural division branded as some sort of racist or nutter and shut down debate. How it has to come to this i don't know but there is a mind numbing political correctness around any discussion of race and multicultural policy in this country.
Obviously not all cultures are equal, just have a look around the world to see that point. If might be fair to expect that governments would not seek to recreate some of the less desirable aspects of the society that some migrants have escaped from but the multicultural lobby would deny this point.
Australia multiracial yes, multicultural no thanks in my view.

I don't have a problem with multiculturalism.

I do have a problem with racists saying the white australia policy was a good thing. It's not mind numbing political correctness to say that the white australia policy was wrong. It was racist.

Of course governments dont want to "recreate some of the less desirable aspects of the society that some migrants have escaped from". That's why we have a legal system and correctional facilities.

[devilsadvocate]

There are some very poor attitudes on display here.

I guess the Indian students that have paid a sh!tload to come here and get a good education are also responsible for themselves getting beaten up by racist, redneck Australians.

Racism is the most counterproductive, evil problem the world has ever faced. It's been around almost as long as mankind and while it remains, violence will continue.

Racism = violence.

Mate alot of Indians get beaten up by Indians why dont we see that in the News or does that not make a good news story!
I think its crap that you call them Redneck Australians, how do we know the full story of what happens when the Media wants to beat up the story to make Aussies look bad, for all we know the indian student could have started any of the fights that get reported on..........

Not all Indians are beaten up by rednck Australians. My bad for not clarifying that. But in Victoria in particular at the moment, there is a large element that is doing just that.

Yes part of it is a media beat up, but there is a fair element of truth to the story too.

And finally, if the last Indian that was murdered did in fact start the fight, did he deserve to be killed?

[Ronnie]

There are some very poor attitudes on display here.

I guess the Indian students that have paid a sh!tload to come here and get a good education are also responsible for themselves getting beaten up by racist, redneck Australians.

Racism is the most counterproductive, evil problem the world has ever faced. It's been around almost as long as mankind and while it remains, violence will continue.

Racism = violence.

Australia has a pretty good record on immigration i would've thought, having accepted so many from all over the globe. We stack up against any society for our openess and tolerance.
The multicultural lobby however would have anyone who dare question the current wisdom of cultural division branded as some sort of racist or nutter and shut down debate. How it has to come to this i don't know but there is a mind numbing political correctness around any discussion of race and multicultural policy in this country.
Obviously not all cultures are equal, just have a look around the world to see that point. If might be fair to expect that governments would not seek to recreate some of the less desirable aspects of the society that some migrants have escaped from but the multicultural lobby would deny this point.
Australia multiracial yes, multicultural no thanks in my view.

I don't have a problem with multiculturalism.

I do have a problem with racists saying the white australia policy was a good thing. It's not mind numbing political correctness to say that the white australia policy was wrong. It was racist.

Of course governments dont want to "recreate some of the less desirable aspects of the society that some migrants have escaped from". That's why we have a legal system and correctional facilities.

We'll i think you'll find that official multicultural policy has been all about an emphasis on difference, with little regard to what actually makes societies work and fit in together. Like i said before, not all cultures are equal, isn't that self evident??

[(S)aintbackline]

There are some very poor attitudes on display here.

I guess the Indian students that have paid a sh!tload to come here and get a good education are also responsible for themselves getting beaten up by racist, redneck Australians.

Racism is the most counterproductive, evil problem the world has ever faced. It's been around almost as long as mankind and while it remains, violence will continue.

Racism = violence.

Mate alot of Indians get beaten up by Indians why dont we see that in the News or does that not make a good news story!
I think its crap that you call them Redneck Australians, how do we know the full story of what happens when the Media wants to beat up the story to make Aussies look bad, for all we know the indian student could have started any of the fights that get reported on..........

Not all Indians are beaten up by rednck Australians. My bad for not clarifying that. But in Victoria in particular at the moment, there is a large element that is doing just that.

Yes part of it is a media beat up, but there is a fair element of truth to the story too.

And finally, if the last Indian that was murdered did in fact start the fight, did he deserve to be killed?[/quote]

Well considering the last indian to be murdered was a 3yo old child clearly he didnt deserve to die.
As for people who start fights one of the consequences is death, i obviously dont condone anyone being murdered over a fight but in every culture people die as a result of fights, i dont think its a RACIST element that starts these fights.

[devilsadvocate]

i dont think its a RACIST element that starts these fights.

Fair enough, personal opinion.

But, do you think this sort of comment is acceptable?:

Who ever got rid of the "White Australian Policy" is to blame.

Multi-culturism is violence.

Too many cultures, Too many religions, Not enough "Understanding" of each other.

Bottom line = Too many IDIOTS.

[smithy]

dogger may of been right in that there is a lack of understanding of other peoples cultures.
I think it's very unfair that people must remove headwear when going into a bank yet Islams can wear a hijab or burka.
It's disgraceful that people born and bred in Australia can have a serbian vs croatian punch up at every Australian Open yet call themselves Aussies.
I'd much rather people make an efort to embrace their new culture and try and fit into society better than hang on to their old one.
Isn't that why they left it behind in the 1st place?

[Dog_ger]

How great it is, to live in a free country.

To have an open opinion.

To go anywhere and to do whatever you want.

No wonder the rest of the world jumps on a boat, any boat, to get here...!

What happens when the rest of the world moves here....?

Comment Wally May.

[devilsadvocate]

How great it is, to live in a free country.

To have an open opinion.

To go anywhere and to do whatever you want.

No wonder the rest of the world jumps on a boat, any boat, to get here...!

What happens when the rest of the world moves here....?

Comment Wally May.

I'll bite again.

So you're Aboriginal? That's strange then that you are upset about the abolition of the white Australia Policy.

OR, if (as it seems) you're not - It was OK when your predecessors came by boat? It was OK that they completely trod down on those already here?

Short memory or ignorance?

[Psyber]

I'll bite again.
So you're Aboriginal? That's strange then that you are upset about the abolition of the white Australia Policy.
OR, if (as it seems) you're not - It was OK when your predecessors came by boat? It was OK that they completely trod down on those already here?
Short memory or ignorance?

In all honesty, the arrival of the white man was an invasion, conveniently masked by the fiction the land was empty.
It was clearly an invasion regardless of how it was dressed, and it could in principal have been justifiably resisted - and probably was in patches.
Such invasions have happened all over the world multiple times and have met resistance in most recorded cases.
Sometimes the resistance has been successful and sometimes not.

What is new today is that we have a group in our society who want us to pretend all the current unapproved arrivals are not invaders, but poor helpless refugees.
And for this reason we should forsake our right to resist them, or even hold them up while we investigate the validity of their claims.
History suggests this is an aberration of the modern age.

After all, the Vikings could, arguably, have claimed to be poor refugees from their harsh homeland seeking a better life for their families in more southern climes.

[dedja]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

[(S)aintbackline]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/102 ... indian-boy

i wonder how long the Indian media will take to report this one, if an Aussie had been charged there would have already been protests and Indians burning the Aussie flag.

[devilsadvocate]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

[(S)aintbackline]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

I do not agree with everything on here either but theres no need to be embarrassed to be Australian, thats why we live in a country with free speech, to give everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion, even if their opinion is not what some would call mainstream.

[dedja]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

I do not agree with everything on here either but theres no need to be embarrassed to be Australian, thats why we live in a country with free speech, to give everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion, even if their opinion is not what some would call mainstream.

Yes, very true regarding free speech and I agree 100% with that ... but we can also be embarrassed about it.

[(S)aintbackline]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

I do not agree with everything on here either but theres no need to be embarrassed to be Australian, thats why we live in a country with free speech, to give everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion, even if their opinion is not what some would call mainstream.

Yes, very true regarding free speech and I agree 100% with that ... but we can also be embarrassed about it.

i suppose as Australians we all have the freedom of embarrassment, just look at our government.

[dedja]

i suppose as Australians we all have the freedom of embarrassment, just look at our government.

Yep, and we're the dumb bastards that put them in too ...

[Leaping Lindner]

One of the most obvious reasons for the recent attacks on Indian students is they are travelling alone on public transport late at night to and from dodgy areas of Melbourne - and this happens to everyone black, white, yellow and green.
Rather than John Brumby holding a press conference and sending Shane Warne to India more would be achiveved by re-introducing guards on trains and conductors on trams. I realise re-employing people in jobs is not part of the laberals ecomonic rationalism plans which rule every decision made, but it is the one that makes the most sense.Which is why it will never happen.
The other strange thing about this situation is by doing this they would also cut back enormously on fare evasion and with the money raised pay the wages of the guards and conductors..... Let alone the money saved in cleaning up vandalism.

[Farmy]

One of the most obvious reasons for the recent attacks on Indian students is they are travelling alone on public transport late at night to and from dodgy areas of Melbourne - and this happens to everyone black, white, yellow and green.
Rather than John Brumby holding a press conference and sending Shane Warne to India more would be achiveved by re-introducing guards on trains and conductors on trams. I realise re-employing people in jobs is not part of the laberals ecomonic rationalism plans which rule every decision made, but it is the one that makes the most sense.Which is why it will never happen.
The other strange thing about this situation is by doing this they would also cut back enormously on fare evasion and with the money raised pay the wages of the guards and conductors..... Let alone the money saved in cleaning up vandalism.

Ooooh I hate those stinking dirty green bastards, sub human they are!!!!!!! Inferior hue

[devilsadvocate]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

I do not agree with everything on here either but theres no need to be embarrassed to be Australian, thats why we live in a country with free speech, to give everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion, even if their opinion is not what some would call mainstream.

Free speech is an absolutely crucial aspect of our society and it's great that it is allowed.

However, there is no place in Australia for BLATANT racism as evident in this thread.