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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:14 am

baysman wrote:WARATAHS' immediate NTFL finals future is Brett Backwell's only concern.

...states a clear intention by the former Carlton AFL listed player that he is determined to put an end to a personal 14-year premiership drought.
...


No disrespect to West Adelaide, but if he wanted to play in a senior premiership (and he chose the SANFL) what on earth was he doing at West Adelaide and Glenelg! He had as little chance playing in senior premierships as possible (save playing for South Adelaide...)!

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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby nickname » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:00 am

SnappyTom wrote:
baysman wrote:WARATAHS' immediate NTFL finals future is Brett Backwell's only concern.

...states a clear intention by the former Carlton AFL listed player that he is determined to put an end to a personal 14-year premiership drought.
...


No disrespect to West Adelaide, but if he wanted to play in a senior premiership (and he chose the SANFL) what on earth was he doing at West Adelaide and Glenelg! He had as little chance playing in senior premierships as possible (save playing for South Adelaide...)!

ST...


He was at West Adelaide because we recruited him. Presumably other clubs weren't as interested in him - he can't do much about that.
And we played in the GF the year after he left. Perhaps that was his best chance.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby dedja » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:58 am

LOL, I know it's hard to believe but sides other than Central happen to play in Grand Finals. :lol:

Both West and Glenelg happen to fluke one since Mouse came to Adelaide.
Dunno, I’m just an idiot.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby schimma » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:02 am

so is backwell able to play for another SANFL side?????
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:05 am

schimma wrote:so is backwell able to play for another SANFL side?????


Yep, Yep if a club could agree a contract with him and be willing to pay Glenelg the required transfer fee there would be no issue with him.

Though do think Glenelg will make it hard for him if its a premiership threat such as Central, Sturt, Eagles or North.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby gossipgirl » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:48 am

SnappyTom wrote:
baysman wrote:WARATAHS' immediate NTFL finals future is Brett Backwell's only concern.

...states a clear intention by the former Carlton AFL listed player that he is determined to put an end to a personal 14-year premiership drought.
...


No disrespect to West Adelaide, but if he wanted to play in a senior premiership (and he chose the SANFL) what on earth was he doing at West Adelaide and Glenelg! He had as little chance playing in senior premierships as possible (save playing for South Adelaide...)!

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you cant be serious ..... probably the most ridiculous post I have ever read. But you are a funny old fellow :lol:
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:04 am

gossipgirl wrote:
SnappyTom wrote:
baysman wrote:WARATAHS' immediate NTFL finals future is Brett Backwell's only concern.

...states a clear intention by the former Carlton AFL listed player that he is determined to put an end to a personal 14-year premiership drought.
...


No disrespect to West Adelaide, but if he wanted to play in a senior premiership (and he chose the SANFL) what on earth was he doing at West Adelaide and Glenelg! He had as little chance playing in senior premierships as possible (save playing for South Adelaide...)!

ST...


you cant be serious ..... probably the most ridiculous post I have ever read. But you are a funny old fellow :lol:


I think ST post is pretty commonsense really, both West and Glenelg were midtable/cellar dwellars when he went to these clubs, they were definatly not premiership contenders amongst most pundits (even WAFC making the 2003 GF was a massive surprise).

IF he came to the SANFL wanting to win an SANFL premiership, it would certainly be fair to say he probably didn't pick the most attractive clubs at the time of his decisions.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby gossipgirl » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:15 am

its like watching dumb and dumber but funnier :D
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:19 am

gossipgirl wrote:its like watching dumb and dumber but funnier :D


proven by the fact he will more than likely finish his SANFL career of atleast 8 years having played in

1 GF & 0 premierships.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby nickname » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:23 am

whufc wrote:[

IF he came to the SANFL wanting to win an SANFL premiership, it would certainly be fair to say he probably didn't pick the most attractive clubs at the time of his decisions.


Clubs recruit players, not the other way around. If Centrals or WWT wanted him after he left Carlton I'm sure they could have made more attractive offers to him than West did. You seem to be assuming every club made him an offer and he chose West above them all.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:29 am

nickname wrote:
whufc wrote:[

IF he came to the SANFL wanting to win an SANFL premiership, it would certainly be fair to say he probably didn't pick the most attractive clubs at the time of his decisions.


Clubs recruit players, not the other way around. If Centrals or WWT wanted him after he left Carlton I'm sure they could have made more attractive offers to him than West did. You seem to be assuming every club made him an offer and he chose West above them all.


Agree BUT you don't think players ring up clubs offering their services ask Charles Slattery, obviously players choose clubs where there is more than 1 club chasing them which more often than not is the case, especially in the close community that is the SANFL where a website generally knows info better and before the local rag.

I don't know what the situation was when Backwell came over to SA but i do know the Dogs made offers towards him earlier on his career and at another stage were keen on him.
I just don't think Snappy Toms comment was anywhere near as stupid as Gossip Girl seemed to think it was.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby milbo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:30 am

whufc wrote:
gossipgirl wrote:its like watching dumb and dumber but funnier :D


proven by the fact he will more than likely finish his SANFL career of atleast 8 years having played in

1 GF & 0 premierships.


And so I guess guys like Robbie Harvey, Scott West, David Neitz, Matt Pavlich etc are duds cos their sides didnt (or havent yet) won a premiership??

Sorry to disagree.. but Welsh CHOSE the Eagles, Mills, Tenace and Grima (arggghhhh) CHOSE Glenelg... I could go all day. The clubs present what they are about... and what they have to offer... the players then choose where it is they seem themselves fitting.

Snappy Toms comment was completely a pi55 take. It had to be.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:35 am

milbo wrote:
whufc wrote:
gossipgirl wrote:its like watching dumb and dumber but funnier :D


proven by the fact he will more than likely finish his SANFL career of atleast 8 years having played in

1 GF & 0 premierships.


And so I guess guys like Robbie Harvey, Scott West, David Neitz, Matt Pavlich etc are duds cos their sides didnt (or havent yet) won a premiership??

Sorry to disagree.. but Welsh CHOSE the Eagles, Mills, Tenace and Grima (arggghhhh) CHOSE Glenelg... I could go all day. The clubs present what they are about... and what they have to offer... the players then choose where it is they seem themselves fitting.

Snappy Toms comment was completely a pi55 take. It had to be.


No one said he was a dud, what they said was that if his purpose of coming to the SANFL was to end his personal premiership drought, he probably didn't give himself the best oppurtunity by playing at the two clubs that he did.

I think that is a pretty fair assesment.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby gossipgirl » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:38 am

unfortunately a minority of bandwaggonny (is that a real word ?) centrals supporters believe the SANFL only started in 2000. :shock:
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:41 am

gossipgirl wrote:unfortunately a minority of bandwaggonny (is that a real word ?) centrals supporters believe the SANFL only started in 2000. :shock:


yes bandwagon, im aged 26 have missed under 10 games since the age of 5 (1988) and can produce my membership cards for every year since 1991. I sure did jump on the bandwagon back in the 80's.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby milbo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:43 am

Then really your saying every player that turned up in Adelaide has made a massive career mistake by not being chosen by or choosing Central Districts. I'd have thought the fact that Brett played a major part in turning a club around... in terms of both on field and off field performance would mean a great deal to him. To go from having 1500 people a game at the Bay to crowds of up to 12,000 with a very strong following would mean a lot. To play in a side that has been relatively successful would also mean something. We were a basket case early on in the 2000's. a few wins per season... and a few goals per game. Brett was apart of the onfield brigade that flipped that around. Off field he'd be pretty happy with what he contributed to the club and its members.

For him personally he has led the side (as VC in Mulesy's absence), he has been a regular state player, Fos Williams medalist and a Magarey medalist.. I think that means that while at NO stage am I suggesting he played for individual accolades or that individual honors meant more to him than a preimership would have.... he couldnt be totally unhappy with his time at the GFC nor can the mombers not be very very happy and thankful for the time and passion he showed in return.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:49 am

Well for Mouse's sake, I was glad to read the Waratahs won their Elimination Final on the weekend to get thru to a second week of finals footy.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby whufc » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:49 am

milbo wrote:Then really your saying every player that turned up in Adelaide has made a massive career mistake by not being chosen by or choosing Central Districts. I'd have thought the fact that Brett played a major part in turning a club around... in terms of both on field and off field performance would mean a great deal to him. To go from having 1500 people a game at the Bay to crowds of up to 12,000 with a very strong following would mean a lot. To play in a side that has been relatively successful would also mean something. We were a basket case early on in the 2000's. a few wins per season... and a few goals per game. Brett was apart of the onfield brigade that flipped that around. Off field he'd be pretty happy with what he contributed to the club and its members.

For him personally he has led the side (as VC in Mulesy's absence), he has been a regular state player, Fos Williams medalist and a Magarey medalist.. I think that means that while at NO stage am I suggesting he played for individual accolades or that individual honors meant more to him than a preimership would have.... he couldnt be totally unhappy with his time at the GFC nor can the mombers not be very very happy and thankful for the time and passion he showed in return.


Not if his only reason for coming here was to win a premiership,

I don't think every player has made a bad decision remembering while everyone strives to win a premiership not every players reason for coming here is to win a premiership, some see this as a pathway to AFL, others are coming back from the AFL and want to play with mates/connections, other move clubs to get league oppurtunity, other choose the money over team success.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby sjt » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:59 am

nickname wrote:
whufc wrote:[

IF he came to the SANFL wanting to win an SANFL premiership, it would certainly be fair to say he probably didn't pick the most attractive clubs at the time of his decisions.


Clubs recruit players, not the other way around. If Centrals or WWT wanted him after he left Carlton I'm sure they could have made more attractive offers to him than West did. You seem to be assuming every club made him an offer and he chose West above them all.


Not necessarily. Central have missed many a player when they can't match an offer.
Gilbert McAdam was one that rocked up at the club asking for a game.
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Re: Backwell Sacked - did i hear right ?? 5AA

Postby milbo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:03 pm

IF he came to the SANFL wanting to win an SANFL premiership, it would certainly be fair to say he probably didn't pick the most attractive clubs at the time of his decisions.

From this comment I can only assume you think every player that was recruited in the early 2000's made a mistake by not choosing or being chosen by Centrals.
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