Para District Cricket Association 2009-10

[Phantom Gossiper]

I think everyone is agreeing the standard has dropped, and most people seem think something needs to be done, but has anyone actually got any ideas on how to fix it?

Personally i think with the exception of yesterdays capitulation from ATCO most games have been pretty well evenly contested this season, sure the standard may not be as good as back in the day but the competitiveness and evenness seems to still be there and IMO which ever sides comes up next season from grade 2 will perform at a more than competitive level.

[skywalker]

My prediction is we will lose 3 clubs and up to 10 teams in total.

Who would be the 3 clubs? In some ways it may be imminent as clubs that don't have juniors, at some stage, will have to fold.

[Phantom Gossiper]

My prediction is we will lose 3 clubs and up to 10 teams in total.

Who would be the 3 clubs? In some ways it may be imminent as clubs that don't have juniors, at some stage, will have to fold.

Eastern Pk one would think will drop a side, rumor has it Salisbury Nrth will fold as well

[catchit]

You have to question what the standard has become in Grade 1. Episodes like this just never happened in yesteryear.

Something needs to be done to ensure the depth of each grade increases and that each grade becomes more even....

How come it was more even yesteryear? What do associations do to ensure their comps are evenly balanced? ATCO haven't been thrashed every game though. I'm sure on their day they can compete. But Grade 1 this year is probably equivalent to Grade 3 years ago.

I remember playing Grade 1 a few years back for EPFC when we had K Thomas and Kenny Mac (knocked out in Semi vs SW), and the standard back then was much much better. There were no easy games, although I think Two Wells and OTH did struggle but not as bad as ATCO and SNth. I guess the depth has decreased, and as is the case all the good players seem to play for 1 team. For example, SW have Davies, McInnes, McIntyre, Parkhouse, Macaferty etc, R&C have Feltus, Kent, Figallo, Brookes etc. The previous were cases of teams having multiple good players, while those that struggle only have 1 or 2. This year, there seems to be less teams with those core good players, and more with 1 or 2.

The loss of TW and Sandy Creek has definitely forced the standard to drop, all those good players from those teams didn't remain in PDCA, they went to other associations. It will take time, some teams have good junior programs so patience is required. until then, SW will prob win 5 flags on the trot.

two wells struggled?? when they went into grade 1 they didnt miss finals once.. from what i can remember they were as competitive as any?? the only thing they struggled to do was win semi finals.. but when they did win one they one the flag as well

[catchit]

bat bowl bat all in the one day groover?? lucky there isnt a assoc game on today...

[catchit]

I think everyone is agreeing the standard has dropped, and most people seem think something needs to be done, but has anyone actually got any ideas on how to fix it?

Personally i think with the exception of yesterdays capitulation from ATCO most games have been pretty well evenly contested this season, sure the standard may not be as good as back in the day but the competitiveness and evenness seems to still be there and IMO which ever sides comes up next season from grade 2 will perform at a more than competitive level.

not sure PG.. sals west have smashed sides for years and will do for sometime yet.. its up to other clubs to try and recruit some players.. and up to PDCA to change the format to a oneday final then a 2 day final.. just adds something to it IMO..

[catchit]

well batted R figgalo yest.. first grade 1 ton i believe??

[Wizard of Oz]

bat bowl bat all in the one day groover?? lucky there isnt a assoc game on today...

Touche !

[unknown source]

i heard salis north will fold with jossa having no interest at all anymore..

another rumor is players will become involved in a burton cricket club and playing church league

[Grahaml]

All out 18 is a disgrace. Davies and McInness might have bowled well but you'd back a reasonable under 16s side to get themselves to 50.

A neutral observer described it more terrible batting and reasonable bowling. Salisbury West B grade would be a more worthy grade 1 side at the moment than ATCO.

[unknown source]

All out 18 is a disgrace. Davies and McInness might have bowled well but you'd back a reasonable under 16s side to get themselves to 50.

A neutral observer described it more terrible batting and reasonable bowling. Salisbury West B grade would be a more worthy grade 1 side at the moment than ATCO.

heard davies got slapped 2 for 16 of 7 overs lol

[Phantom Gossiper]

heard davies got slapped 2 for 16 of 7 overs lol

disgracefull

[Groover]

All out 18 is a disgrace. Davies and McInness might have bowled well but you'd back a reasonable under 16s side to get themselves to 50.

A neutral observer described it more terrible batting and reasonable bowling. Salisbury West B grade would be a more worthy grade 1 side at the moment than ATCO.

So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO

[Wizard of Oz]

All out 18 is a disgrace. Davies and McInness might have bowled well but you'd back a reasonable under 16s side to get themselves to 50.

A neutral observer described it more terrible batting and reasonable bowling. Salisbury West B grade would be a more worthy grade 1 side at the moment than ATCO.

So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO

At Grade 1 level, regardless of how good a bowler you are, 8/0 is sadly not a reflection of how well someone bowled.....to a degree. You cant tell me your A Grade team were not good enough to get one away off the pads for 1 ? The majority of his 8 were bowled weren't they ? That suggests to me your boys need to get back to the basics of playing straight and getting their techniques right.

Johnny is quality, no doubt, but 8/0......all out 18 ? Maybe you boys should request a bell in the ball for the rest of your second innings....

[Groover]

All out 18 is a disgrace. Davies and McInness might have bowled well but you'd back a reasonable under 16s side to get themselves to 50.

A neutral observer described it more terrible batting and reasonable bowling. Salisbury West B grade would be a more worthy grade 1 side at the moment than ATCO.

So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO

At Grade 1 level, regardless of how good a bowler you are, 8/0 is sadly not a reflection of how well someone bowled.....to a degree. You cant tell me your A Grade team were not good enough to get one away off the pads for 1 ? The majority of his 8 were bowled weren't they ? That suggests to me your boys need to get back to the basics of playing straight and getting their techniques right.

Johnny is quality, no doubt, but 8/0......all out 18 ? Maybe you boys should request a bell in the ball for the rest of your second innings....

On the day he bowled superb, fielders backed him up and i believe his figures are well deserved. Maybe more runs could have been hit but they weren't. Also its correct our boys need to work on our batting if we are to post anything respectable next week and in the weeks to follow.

[custardarm]

more runs groover! how about just 1

[Browny25]

Congrats to Johnny Mac on his 8/0 - Amazing figures!

Also to Russell Figallo for his ton, well deserved.

[Lightning McQueen]

I cast my mind back to the AGM where the ATCO delegate got up and said we dont need changes because cricket is traditional and if its not broken, why change. Surely she is now deeply concerned. What changes can be made? ATCO are not competitive, Salis Nth are not competitive. Will the two from Gd 2 be any better? My gut feeling is the Assoc is slowly suffering a grim death. I fear for the number of teams that will fall away next year. My prediction is we will lose 3 clubs and up to 10 teams in total.

Always negative there 84, the only clubs that I'm concerned over for next season are Salisbury North and Elizabeth East. Didn't ATCO lose narrowly to Salisbury West in the one-dayer? As far as the teams in the position of going up into Grade 1 next season, I think they will cope better than Salisbury North have this season.
Craigmore would need to find another consistent batsmen or have one or two of their current players step up more on a regular basis, take out Dobbo and Gav and the averages drop away dramatically. They are probably lacking a quick bowler, fix these areas up and they will be very competitive.
Central United have blooded a lot of kids this season and with their experienced players they could have an even mix. They have a few match-winners in their team and can be very dangerous.
Parafield Gardens need Hanson playing for them as they struggle at the top of their batting line-up, Lynch and Pargaliti are a good opening bowling pair but after that the quality drops off.
Playford have a long batting line-up and have a good mix of bowlers when they are all available, that has been their problem this season, they've always got one key bowler unavailable.
We are short a strike bowler, we have the batting depth we just need a quick to shake the batsmen up and have our line and length bowlers to apply pressuer and force the errors.
We know what we need for us to be successful in Grade 1 and we have 5 players that I'd say would be better than a 50% chance of coming out to us next season that are of A grade standard. We've had preliminary talks with another 6 who I'd rate as a 30 to 50% chance of coming out.

[Phantom Gossiper]

So your saying Mcinnes wasn't deserving of his 8fa? Tough call that, not sure you can take anything away from the way SW bowled, even if we did bat terribly. Full credit to the SW lads IMO

deserving 8fa? Probably. deserving to go for no runs? Probably not. You can't try and take the spotlight off your own side, at the end of the day your side produced a disgracefull performance.

Sure credit goes to SW for obviously making the most of your pathetic attempt at cricket, but your side 1st and foremost wears the blame IMO.

18 is disgusting for any side, let alone grade 1.

Also wasn't it one of your clubs sides that got rolled for 6 the other week as well??

[whufc]

I cast my mind back to the AGM where the ATCO delegate got up and said we dont need changes because cricket is traditional and if its not broken, why change. Surely she is now deeply concerned. What changes can be made? ATCO are not competitive, Salis Nth are not competitive. Will the two from Gd 2 be any better? My gut feeling is the Assoc is slowly suffering a grim death. I fear for the number of teams that will fall away next year. My prediction is we will lose 3 clubs and up to 10 teams in total.

Always negative there 84, the only clubs that I'm concerned over for next season are Salisbury North and Elizabeth East. Didn't ATCO lose narrowly to Salisbury West in the one-dayer? As far as the teams in the position of going up into Grade 1 next season, I think they will cope better than Salisbury North have this season.
Craigmore would need to find another consistent batsmen or have one or two of their current players step up more on a regular basis, take out Dobbo and Gav and the averages drop away dramatically. They are probably lacking a quick bowler, fix these areas up and they will be very competitive.
Central United have blooded a lot of kids this season and with their experienced players they could have an even mix. They have a few match-winners in their team and can be very dangerous.
Parafield Gardens need Hanson playing for them as they struggle at the top of their batting line-up, Lynch and Pargaliti are a good opening bowling pair but after that the quality drops off.
Playford have a long batting line-up and have a good mix of bowlers when they are all available, that has been their problem this season, they've always got one key bowler unavailable.
We are short a strike bowler, we have the batting depth we just need a quick to shake the batsmen up and have our line and length bowlers to apply pressuer and force the errors.
We know what we need for us to be successful in Grade 1 and we have 5 players that I'd say would be better than a 50% chance of coming out to us next season that are of A grade standard. We've had preliminary talks with another 6 who I'd rate as a 30 to 50% chance of coming out.

None of them would be from Playford would they?