Dont give up Port Adelaide members!

[JK]

Pretty sure its their only asset ... not sure if they own Ethelton - where the juniors train ?
Perhaps if they do they could look top move that on and train them somewhere else so they dont have to have that asset sitting around .... would leasing an oval work out better for them ?

Im not sure of the costs involved mate .. Where is the current Magpies Admin housed these days?[/quote]
I think it's on Pt rd, just near Maughn-Teim Ford, where old Pt rd and Pt rd meet.[/quote]

What they should do is move the admin to the top of the POW hotel. I understand there in an upstairs area, which could be utilised.[/quote]

I had this thought too. From memory (my family had the POW lease for a while in the 80s), i reckon there are about 10 rooms up stairs. Some are pretty small with just a bed in them. There are also some rooms downstairs. I think storage of merchandise, etc would be an issue, as would the cost of refitting the upstairs into office accommodation.[/quote]

Somewhere among your club sponsors is there someone involved in the building trade that could perhaps undertake any modification work required in a faster and cheaper manner?

Perhaps the club had never made this move before for fear of having to sell the pub and then being without premises for their admin to operate in?

[overloaded]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

[Dirko]

Is that ok with you??

I couldn't really give a rats arse who you barracked for, but in your profile is says Glenelg.

[devilsadvocate]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

I think it's a childish idea personally.
Support your club through thick and thin, home and away IMO.

[sjt]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

Because all teams didn't agree with one plan, you're not going to support your team? Laying blame with everyone else.
I heard Sawford raving on about how 30% of attendances are Port supporters, typical politician crap. I reckon much of the supporter base away from Alberton would be opposition supporters wanting to see the Magpies get beaten.
Yeh, stay away - who cares.

[Dirko]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

How say the opposition supporters do the same and boycott Alberton ?

Fair crack.

Instead of playing the blame game, look in your own back yard and try and find out why both Port clubs are financially gone.

Some of the carry on in here makes me want to see the Magpies fold.....

[am Bays]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

I think it's a childish idea personally.
Support your club through thick and thin, home and away IMO.

I reckon Port fans are already boycotting the SANFL, even there own home games. I have been disappointed in their turn-outs for the last 2 years. It probably explains their current plight. Everyone loves winners, I suspect Centrals and Sturt fans have been the best supporters in the SANFL in the last 10 years, tken up teh role port claims to ahve had.

I mean Glenelg was the best supported club (average crowd/game) in 2008. Went looking for 2009 figures but couldn't find them?

Spelly what were the average crowd figures and venue figures for 2009, 2000-2008 would be handy too average crowd per round, average crowd per club and average crowd per ground....

[Macca19]

If this is our last year, then ill be wanting to go to as many bloody games as possible, not the other way around.

[Dogwatcher]

Well said.
If it is the last season, I'll definitely be trying to get down there for the last game.
Will also be trying to get to the first game at the Ponderosa.

[MatteeG]

whats everyones thoughts on Magpies supporters boycotting away games...I am so pissed off with the SANFL at the moment I am starting to think this is not such a bad idea?

Why not buy a season ticket, then away games are included too.

[Barto]

If this is our last year, then ill be wanting to go to as many bloody games as possible, not the other way around.

This is the correct response. Boycotting is madness and cutting your nose off to spite your face.

It's not going to achieve much as gate takings haven't been a primary source of income for years.

[jamdog]

As a centrals support. I hope Port Magpies do find a way to survive.

Whilst emotion in football is a good thing. In business you need to use some logic and sense. Making decisions based on emotion is both foolish and fraught with danger.

The advertiser articles on page 4-5 today make interesting reading.
Some points from these stories.

Point 1.
The magpies need $500,000 in the next few weeks to keep their creditors at bay. Had the merge been approved, how would this have enabled them to suddenly find $500,000? Unless the Power have a mass of undisclosed funds hidden away. Which would be surprising since the SANFL and I believe the AFL have forwarded money to ease their financial crisis.

Point 2.
The clubs lawyers where charged with assessing a Federal Court challenge to the SANFL's decision on a restraint of trade. The Power would also need to be involved. Again costs could be expected to upwards of 50,000.

Point 3.
Magpie’s fans plan to boycott SANFL games away from Alberton Oval.
I would have thought you would want to be supporting your team at this point in time. If you do not want the gate takings to go to the opposition club you should be purchasing a season ticket. That way all the funds go to Port Magpies. If 500 people purchased a season this would be a great cash injection. By not showing up, they would be displaying a message that you don’t care about their team. As supports at a match do have an effect on the players on the field.

Point 4.
The Port Mayor made the comments that “losing the magpies could be the final blow for the battling area”. “If we lose the Port Adelaide magpies we might as well put a closed sign on all of Port Adelaide - tourism, business, you name it”.

Surely these comments are just emotions speaking at no logic.
I would not have thought Port magpies would be bringing too many tourists to the area. I was under the impression that there was still going to be a Port Adelaide Football Club in the area. Named the Power, who I am sure would bring more to the community than the Port Magpies. But maybe that is the big problem, that a lot of the people in the Port area have not embraced the power as much as we were all led to believe when they spruiked they were the greatest club ever. Funds can only be spread so far.

Point 5.
Publican from Alberton Hotel. "It certainly won’t improve the SANFL, it will lose credibility without Port."

Why? Port has not been the most credible club in the last 3-4 years if not longer. Struggling both on and off the field.

Final Point:
Heritage Listing a Business. What a load of crap. How many businesses are sold / closed etc.
By placing a heritage listing on a business how will this save it? It will not bring in any revenue. The comment was it will help protect them permanently. But at who’s cost and then what about the other clubs, what protection guarantee will they receive. This is both a waste of time and effort when their resources and time should be put to better use.

[CUTTERMAN]

You know i would've thought about it, but the finger pointing, blaming, paranoid, blinkered, myopic attitude coming from Magpie supporters is just embarrassing. If there was a hint of reality, of a wider perspective I may have but there isn't, so no I wont.
Before you say it, I know you don't need or want my help, we'll do it on our own blah blah blah.
Well the fact is that you were asking for help and didn't want to do it on your own.

Blanket statements are so 1960's. Not all Port people are finger pointing. Many are accepting that the club has got it wrong. Many are looking at ways of moving forward.

I'm not too proud to ask for help. I don't think the club is either.

Just remember, there are strong rumours surrounding your club's viability at the moment - it may be you asking for help in the not too distant future....again.

Fair comment on the blanket statements bit DA and obviously I'm not saying that for all port supporters, I've worked my arse off in the boatyards of the port since 1997. So I know alot of port punters. Your point about Sturt is true and we've been doing it hard for a long time now and will continue to do so for a while yet, and this is my point. Let's say your merger plan went ahead then 2 years down the track Sturt need help, we can't merge so it's not right that anyone else should, you can't have one rule for one club just because of past success', history etc. Meanwhile we will battle on for ourselves as PAMFC should do.

[devilsadvocate]

Fair comment on the blanket statements bit DA and obviously I'm not saying that for all port supporters, I've worked my arse off in the boatyards of the port since 1997. So I know alot of port punters. Your point about Sturt is true and we've been doing it hard for a long time now and will continue to do so for a while yet, and this is my point. Let's say your merger plan went ahead then 2 years down the track Sturt need help, we can't merge so it's not right that anyone else should, you can't have one rule for one club just because of past success', history etc. Meanwhile we will battle on for ourselves as PAMFC should do.

Agreed. From the limited knowledge I have, the merger does not sound like the best option for the Magpies. Short term fix maybe, but not the best long term option.

We need to do what Sturt, South, North and West have all done and work our bollox off to exist in our own right.

I hope there are some positive, plausible ideas raised at tonight's meeting to allow us to do just that.

[Ronnie]

Fair comment on the blanket statements bit DA and obviously I'm not saying that for all port supporters, I've worked my arse off in the boatyards of the port since 1997. So I know alot of port punters. Your point about Sturt is true and we've been doing it hard for a long time now and will continue to do so for a while yet, and this is my point. Let's say your merger plan went ahead then 2 years down the track Sturt need help, we can't merge so it's not right that anyone else should, you can't have one rule for one club just because of past success', history etc. Meanwhile we will battle on for ourselves as PAMFC should do.

Agreed. From the limited knowledge I have, the merger does not sound like the best option for the Magpies. Short term fix maybe, but not the best long term option.

We need to do what Sturt, South, North and West have all done and work our bollox off to exist in our own right.

I hope there are some positive, plausible ideas raised at tonight's meeting to allow us to do just that.

I think there will be some ideas generated from tonight's meeting from what i am hearing. You know what, the best thing that happened to Sturt back in 1995 was the announcement that a merger with North was being looked at, because it galvanised people into action like nothing else can, and if you can capture that sentiment then it goes a long way.
I think the Magpies are far from finished,

[UK Fan]

Final Point:
Heritage Listing a Business. What a load of crap. How many businesses are sold / closed etc.
By placing a heritage listing on a business how will this save it? It will not bring in any revenue. The comment was it will help protect them permanently. But at who’s cost and then what about the other clubs, what protection guarantee will they receive. This is both a waste of time and effort when their resources and time should be put to better use.

I know, probably the funniest thing I have heard in this issue. This would be pretty much a sure fire solutionfor any insolvent or struggling old business in SA

[devilsadvocate]

I think there will be some ideas generated from tonight's meeting from what i am hearing. You know what, the best thing that happened to Sturt back in 1995 was the announcement that a merger with North was being looked at, because it galvanised people into action like nothing else can, and if you can capture that sentiment then it goes a long way.
I think the Magpies are far from finished,

I hope you're right mate.
I'm sitting here stewing and stressing about the thought of seeing the Mighty Magpies walk from Alberton oval for the last time ever at the end of the season.
I'm 100% behind whatever the club can come up with to see us continue. Hopefully there are enough of us to do a Sturt. (Never thought I'd want to be like Sturt!!!)

[CUTTERMAN]

Fair comment on the blanket statements bit DA and obviously I'm not saying that for all port supporters, I've worked my arse off in the boatyards of the port since 1997. So I know alot of port punters. Your point about Sturt is true and we've been doing it hard for a long time now and will continue to do so for a while yet, and this is my point. Let's say your merger plan went ahead then 2 years down the track Sturt need help, we can't merge so it's not right that anyone else should, you can't have one rule for one club just because of past success', history etc. Meanwhile we will battle on for ourselves as PAMFC should do.

Agreed. From the limited knowledge I have, the merger does not sound like the best option for the Magpies. Short term fix maybe, but not the best long term option.

We need to do what Sturt, South, North and West have all done and work our bollox off to exist in our own right.

I hope there are some positive, plausible ideas raised at tonight's meeting to allow us to do just that.

Good on ya DA, see now you've given me hope again that my opinions of port supporters is only slighty right. Joke!
I hope for the sake of people like you and Pipers that your great club can survive. I'll buy you a beer at the next Sturt v Port game.

[devilsadvocate]

Good on ya DA, see now you've given me hope again that my opinions of port supporters is only slighty right. Joke!
I hope for the sake of people like you and Pipers that your great club can survive. I'll buy you a beer at the next Sturt v Port game.

Cheers mate.

Hopefully I can return the shout in 2011 at Alberton!

[PhilH]

Boycotting away games makes no sense.

Taking it to its natural conclusion, if it becomes a large and public boycott then
it will be reciprocated by other SANFL club fans who would then boycott Alberton games

This will mean vital bar, canteen and other home game day income the Magpies so desperately need will be lost.


What the Magpies need to understand is that there are two groups of "other" supporters;

One is the hate everything and everyone associated with any Port group and want to see them all die in a painful way even if it is to their own clubs detriment --- ignore them.

The other is supporters of other clubs who may "hate" the Magpies and love nothing more than beating them BUT
love the rivalry, has respect for the club and for the sake of the a better SANFL wants to see them stay in the competition. (but not at the expense of their own club's finances.) --- utilise them, get them onside and develop a public movement to save the club.

Do not label them all as the same AND do not alienate potential supporters. The Magpies need all the support they can get.