better to live on your feet than die on your knees

[gossipgirl]

Unfortunately since 1991 the SANFL competition is becoming more and more irrelevant each year with very little media exposure these days (except for the current crisis). I suspect if the magpies do fold then the competition will have lost numerous supporters and followers as I cant see a magpies supporter following any other club. You have to wonder how many existing clubs in the SANFL will still be around in say 10 to 20 years. I do believe that the AFL's long term plan is for the AFL clubs CROWS and PORT licences to be no longer owned by the SANFL. Not sure if this can ever really happen but that would have a huge impact on revenues for the remaining SANFL clubs.

I wonder what is the long term financial feasibility of the SANFL competition ?????

[Psyber]

I think the VFL's plan was always a false "AFL" run primarily for the benefit of the Melbourne clubs.
That's why buying into it was a mistake, and Port did us a disservice by forcing the issue.
Had it not happened we may have eventually achieved a true independent national league.

[devilsadvocate]

I think the VFL's plan was always a false "AFL" run primarily for the benefit of the Melbourne clubs.
That's why buying into it was a mistake, and Port did us a disservice by forcing the issue.
Had it not happened we may have eventually achieved a true independent national league.

And expand into places like the Gold Coast and Western Sydney.........

[SABRE]

I think the VFL's plan was always a false "AFL" run primarily for the benefit of the Melbourne clubs.
That's why buying into it was a mistake, and Port did us a disservice by forcing the issue.
Had it not happened we may have eventually achieved a true independent national league.

And expand into places like the Gold Coast and Western Sydney.........

No 'dev',
Brisbane and Sydney have their own long running local competitions, as does every state
and territory. If those idiots in Western Aust. hadn't caved in to the Vics and Port had shown
some backbone by being faithful to South Australia, we could have a REAL national competition
right now, with all clubs having the right to compete, instead of the current disaster.

[Dutchy]

Im aware of all that mate, my point is more that a governing body should have some responsibility in helping the clubs ... And I don't mean just at the last minute or via large $ bailouts.

How many SA footy clubs in the SANFL, or its predecessor associations, have died or merged since, say, 1878.
Is it all that unusual for these changes to occur in any sporting association?

You don't think we've progessed since those days? How has the AFL managed to keep Hawthorn, Sydney, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Geelong and the Kangaroo's in their competition after their struggles at one time or another in the past 10 years?

Issue being is the PAMFC have been throwing huge $$$ at recruits over the past few years which is retrospect was irresponsible and is part of the cause, maybe the SANFL should be auditing clubs books regularly to pick up early warning signs, but bailing out clubs isnt the answer, otherwise all clubs will know they can take high risk strategies and have the knowledge that the SANFL will always help them if/when they get in trouble...

[Pseudo]

The other 8 SANFL clubs can go and get f**ked for their selfish and short-sighted vindictiveness.

and you, sunshine, can stick your head even further up your own fundament, where you will be insulated from reality and can happily believe the illusion that Port is not to blame for any of this, that the SANFL owes Port, that Port is not dying because of its own mismanagement but because those nasty ol' SANFL clubs just want to sink the boot.

It is exactly your attitude which prevents your mob from picking itself up off the canvas - like every other club has done in the last 20 years.

[Pseudo]

The sad thing is, it is the wrong Port Adelaide who will survive.

Funnily enough, I agree.

[on the rails]

...but bailing out clubs isnt the answer, otherwise all clubs will know they can take high risk strategies and have the knowledge that the SANFL will always help them if/when they get in trouble...

Spot on Dutchy - No way will it happen plus the fact the SANFL never bailed out West Torrens, Woodville, Sturt or North makes the fact that Port Adelaide are no different to any other SANFL club in terms of consideration for a bail out despite some of the absolute rubbish posted by some so called Port people on this forum and others such as the Power from Port about some god given right to survive!

[stan]

Unfortunately since 1991 the SANFL competition is becoming more and more irrelevant each year with very little media exposure these days (except for the current crisis). I suspect if the magpies do fold then the competition will have lost numerous supporters and followers as I cant see a magpies supporter following any other club. You have to wonder how many existing clubs in the SANFL will still be around in say 10 to 20 years. I do believe that the AFL's long term plan is for the AFL clubs CROWS and PORT licences to be no longer owned by the SANFL. Not sure if this can ever really happen but that would have a huge impact on revenues for the remaining SANFL clubs.

I wonder what is the long term financial feasibility of the SANFL competition ????? :shock:

Less people at games will mean less money will be spent by sponsors for marketing. Which makes sense because there is not point having signs around if there is not anyone around to see them.
This can in turn effect the ABC, and god help the SANFL if the ABC's commitment to the league stops. What can happen and what did happen with the NSL, now the A-League prior is games werent televised and hence thats makes gettings sponsors very difficult. And in these times sponsers are hard to get.
The issue with the ABC will be ratings, and will they get enough people watching on TV to warrent them including this as part of the programing? Time will tell, I suspect not in the long term which means less coverage as a whole, which is very bad.

In summary, the remaining clubs need to get there pokie venues settled, like most have, and look at expanding that side of there business.

[Booney]

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