BIG Bash Grand Final SA V VIC

[lion heart]

Inept and very disappointing performance from the Redbacks tonight but what do you expect when the coaching/selection is no better.

Manou didnt work as an opener but nothing was done and we had a plethora of able replacements. Personally i would have liked to see Christian given a go at the top of the order. Cooper and Borgas struggled throughout the series. Cossie was struggling to bat a run a ball which isnt good enough in this form.

Our form deteriorated each game and nothing was done to right the sinking ship. Just look at the Bulls who moved Simpson up the order or the Vics with Finch. Our momentum was lost and so was our chance at silverware.

[jackpot jim]

Inept and very disappointing performance from the Redbacks tonight but what do you expect when the coaching/selection is no better.

Manou didnt work as an opener but nothing was done and we had a plethora of able replacements. Personally i would have liked to see Christian given a go at the top of the order. Cooper and Borgas struggled throughout the series. Cossie was struggling to bat a run a ball which isnt good enough in this form.

Our form deteriorated each game and nothing was done to right the sinking ship. Just look at the Bulls who moved Simpson up the order or the Vics with Finch. Our momentum was lost and so was our chance at silverware.

Spot on.
Got out of jail against Tassie.
Manou was quoted that there would be NO complacency against NSW and we all saw what happened - a totally inept, careless, thoughtless, pathetic effort against them.
Manou then comes out and says thay they may have taken their focus off that game aftyer having secured top place, home final and a spot in the T20 club championchips but would be fully focused on the final.

Simple fact was that they were content with what had been achieved and didn't think about where they could improve their performance. i.e. by tinkering with the batting order that needed doing but wasn't.

Things went against them a bit but were beaten by a better and more thoughtful side.

Will give some credit to SA's fielding - their catching was excellent.

[Voice]

VIC SPY = A COCKY ARROGANT NORmal VICTORIAN = TROLL

i'm amazed you seem to know enough about sanfl footy yet you were ''born & bred'' in victoria & don't care about your team (port)....most of us that follow the sanfl which IS REAL FOOTBALL would know the names of the teams but not much else because we don't care & i'll ask what is it like to watch north ballarat play then watch about 8 players leave after their shower to get back into the city because they are on afl list(s) & you can have about 12 players at the club presentations

It must also be a joy for Vic spy to watch North Ballarat play in front of 350 spectators every week Great atmosphere Vic? Maybe it's a common thing for you as you also support one of the lowest supporter base clubs in the AFL and 2 clubs that need propping up because they can't make any money.

[NO-MERCY]

Inept and very disappointing performance from the Redbacks tonight but what do you expect when the coaching/selection is no better.

Manou didnt work as an opener but nothing was done and we had a plethora of able replacements. Personally i would have liked to see Christian given a go at the top of the order. Cooper and Borgas struggled throughout the series. Cossie was struggling to bat a run a ball which isnt good enough in this form.

Our form deteriorated each game and nothing was done to right the sinking ship. Just look at the Bulls who moved Simpson up the order or the Vics with Finch. Our momentum was lost and so was our chance at silverware.

Spot on.
Got out of jail against Tassie.
Manou was quoted that there would be NO complacency against NSW and we all saw what happened - a totally inept, careless, thoughtless, pathetic effort against them.
Manou then comes out and says thay they may have taken their focus off that game aftyer having secured top place, home final and a spot in the T20 club championchips but would be fully focused on the final.

Simple fact was that they were content with what had been achieved and didn't think about where they could improve their performance. i.e. by tinkering with the batting order that needed doing but wasn't.

Things went against them a bit but were beaten by a better and more thoughtful side.

Will give some credit to SA's fielding - their catching was excellent.

SPOT ON.
Todays paper quoted Manou as saying " it hurts a hell of alot"
It may of hurt him but did the others hurt as much? I don't think so.
Tait for example couldn't get the line & length that rewarded him with wickets against the Vics last time ( inconsistent ) & was punished like he was against NSW, to me it looked like he was sulking ( body language ) & then looked for an excuse ( hobbled on his ankle ).
Monou spelled him, then called him in to finish 2 of the last 4 overs.
I thought the bloke was injured, he continued to bowl no-balls & wasn't called numerous times when he had crossed the line.
Why didn't he take his marker back a foot?
What topped it off was seeing Tait laughing while batting, he looked to be taking it real hard, to me he's selfish & thinks more of himself than his team.
Saying that i believe now what i was told that Tait only trains when he wants to.
It shows in his performance.
I'm glad i didn't go as the result was what i thought it'd be.

[dedja]

Tait for example couldn't get the line & length that rewarded him with wickets against the Vics last time ( inconsistent ) & was punished like he was against NSW, to me it looked like he was sulking ( body language ) & then looked for an excuse ( hobbled on his ankle ) ...

What topped it off was seeing Tait laughing while batting, he looked to be taking it real hard, to me he's selfish & thinks more of himself than his team.
Saying that i believe now what i was told that Tait only trains when he wants to.
It shows in his performance.

I have to admit the same thoughts crossed my mind and reinforce my perception of the man.

Of course Tait wasn't the reason the Redbacks lost last night, but apart from assisting in a quick money grab for the Redbacks in T20 and himself, he is of no value to South Australian cricket with his attitude and declared position to only play T20 and nothing else in my humble opinion despite his potential to wreck havoc on batsmen for an over here or there.

Sorry MAL.

If he was a footballer, would you want him at your club with his (lack of) approach and dedication to the cause?

[zipzap]

Sorry but Tait is a hack. A potentially fast one, but still a hack. As No Mercy points out, after a VERY ordinary game from him, for him to be giggling at the crease was an embarrassment.

[mal]

Take the good with the bad
His record in limited over games is exceptional
I loved his approach in the West Indies when we won the World Cup
I also loved his approach when we were narrowly beaten by NSW in a 50 over Grand final

As I have said the man has had his share of problems

Last night he had an ordinary night
The previous time we played VI at Adelaide oval he tore them to pieces

Shaun is is a very good 20/20 bowler
He would walk into any other State side
And if he can get his act together fitness WISE will be bowling for AU in the next 20/20 world cup

[mal]

Tait for example couldn't get the line & length that rewarded him with wickets against the Vics last time ( inconsistent ) & was punished like he was against NSW, to me it looked like he was sulking ( body language ) & then looked for an excuse ( hobbled on his ankle ) ...

What topped it off was seeing Tait laughing while batting, he looked to be taking it real hard, to me he's selfish & thinks more of himself than his team.
Saying that i believe now what i was told that Tait only trains when he wants to.
It shows in his performance.

I have to admit the same thoughts crossed my mind and reinforce my perception of the man.

Of course Tait wasn't the reason the Redbacks lost last night, but apart from assisting in a quick money grab for the Redbacks in T20 and himself, he is of no value to South Australian cricket with his attitude and declared position to only play T20 and nothing else in my humble opinion despite his potential to wreck havoc on batsmen for an over here or there.

Sorry MAL.

If he was a footballer, would you want him at your club with his (lack of) approach and dedication to the cause?

386 balls
489 runs
31 wickets
15-77 average
12-45 strike rate
7-60 economy rate

Wont find too many Domestic bolwers who are capable of that
This despite all the percieved problems the man has


As for the quick money grab comment ????
Tait has informed the Rajastan Royals in the IPL that he wont be playing this season
Tait has decided to concentrate on representing AU in the next 20/20 World Cup
Tait by doing this has rejected approximately $400,000 dollars

[dedja]

As for the quick money grab comment ????
Tait has informed the Rajastan Royals in the IPL that he wont be playing this season
Tait has decided to concentrate on representing AU in the next 20/20 World Cup
Tait by doing this has rejected approximately $400,000 dollars

Good on him ...

If he get picked for the next T20 world cup then the selectors have rocks in their heads.

We agree to disagree on this one.

[Gozu]

I have to admit the same thoughts crossed my mind and reinforce my perception of the man.

Of course Tait wasn't the reason the Redbacks lost last night, but apart from assisting in a quick money grab for the Redbacks in T20 and himself, he is of no value to South Australian cricket with his attitude and declared position to only play T20 and nothing else in my humble opinion despite his potential to wreck havoc on batsmen for an over here or there.

Sorry MAL.

If he was a footballer, would you want him at your club with his (lack of) approach and dedication to the cause?

He plays one-day cricket too, it's "just" the longer form of the game he's seemingly given up.

btw If healthy he'd just about be the first player picked for the T20 World Cup. Say what you like about the guy and I too have issues with his heart muscle problems but the guy is one of the best T20 bowlers in the world.

[dedja]

I have to admit the same thoughts crossed my mind and reinforce my perception of the man.

Of course Tait wasn't the reason the Redbacks lost last night, but apart from assisting in a quick money grab for the Redbacks in T20 and himself, he is of no value to South Australian cricket with his attitude and declared position to only play T20 and nothing else in my humble opinion despite his potential to wreck havoc on batsmen for an over here or there.

Sorry MAL.

If he was a footballer, would you want him at your club with his (lack of) approach and dedication to the cause?

He plays one-day cricket too, it's "just" the longer form of the game he's seemingly given up.

btw If healthy he'd just about be the first player picked for the T20 World Cup. Say what you like about the guy and I too have issues with his heart muscle problems but the guy is one of the best T20 bowlers in the world.

Sorry to labour the point:

Yes, technically he still plays one-day matches (when he decides to make himself available) but in reality it's bugger all.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5817489967

Stepping away from first-class cricket and the majority of SA's one-day games has meant Tait is finally fresh and fit.

[Gozu]

Sorry to labour the point:

Yes, technically he still plays one-day matches (when he decides to make himself available) but in reality it's bugger all.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5817489967

Stepping away from first-class cricket and the majority of SA's one-day games has meant Tait is finally fresh and fit.

That article is incorrect. I don't think he's missed a one-day game for SA yet this season. Four day cricket sure but I've never heard anything from him about giving up on one-day cricket.

[smac]

Disappointing that depression is being likened to a "heart muscle" with regard to Tait. It is a real illness with real impacts on people. If dropping the extended form of cricket is what helps his recovery then I wish him well.

[CoverKing]

Disappointing that depression is being likened to a "heart muscle" with regard to Tait. It is a real illness with real impacts on people. If dropping the extended form of cricket is what helps his recovery then I wish him well.

I think people say heart problems regarding Tait relates to his hamstring and his lack of effort to get back to playing the 4 dya game. He may have put some hard work in early, but damn he just gave up on 4/5 day cricket too easily. He could have got thru his problems and be back playing for the aussies now.

However, after his injury problems, he came back through the one day format and because he was getting thru that comfortably, he continued to stay clear of 4 day cricket.

And the bloke has a CA contract. WHAT A JOKE.

[locky801]

Disappointing that depression is being likened to a "heart muscle" with regard to Tait. It is a real illness with real impacts on people. If dropping the extended form of cricket is what helps his recovery then I wish him well.

I think people say heart problems regarding Tait relates to his hamstring and his lack of effort to get back to playing the 4 dya game. He may have put some hard work in early, but damn he just gave up on 4/5 day cricket too easily. He could have got thru his problems and be back playing for the aussies now.

However, after his injury problems, he came back through the one day format and because he was getting thru that comfortably, he continued to stay clear of 4 day cricket.

And the bloke has a CA contract. WHAT A JOKE.

and his problem last night has been reported as a bruised toe

[CoverKing]

Disappointing that depression is being likened to a "heart muscle" with regard to Tait. It is a real illness with real impacts on people. If dropping the extended form of cricket is what helps his recovery then I wish him well.

I think people say heart problems regarding Tait relates to his hamstring and his lack of effort to get back to playing the 4 dya game. He may have put some hard work in early, but damn he just gave up on 4/5 day cricket too easily. He could have got thru his problems and be back playing for the aussies now.

However, after his injury problems, he came back through the one day format and because he was getting thru that comfortably, he continued to stay clear of 4 day cricket.

And the bloke has a CA contract. WHAT A JOKE.

and his problem last night has been reported as a bruised toe

[dedja]

Disappointing that depression is being likened to a "heart muscle" with regard to Tait. It is a real illness with real impacts on people. If dropping the extended form of cricket is what helps his recovery then I wish him well.

Yes, very true words about depression and I agree with those sentiments about the illness.

Not withstanding that, you are either going to present yourself as 100% or take more time off.

I see no winners in a half-arsed attempt to play some of the time.

In any case, I was under the impression (and please correct me if I'm mistaken) that Tait's decision to not play the longer form of the game was related to physical injury management, not the mental illness side of things.

[NO-MERCY]

Tait for example couldn't get the line & length that rewarded him with wickets against the Vics last time ( inconsistent ) & was punished like he was against NSW, to me it looked like he was sulking ( body language ) & then looked for an excuse ( hobbled on his ankle ) ...

What topped it off was seeing Tait laughing while batting, he looked to be taking it real hard, to me he's selfish & thinks more of himself than his team.
Saying that i believe now what i was told that Tait only trains when he wants to.
It shows in his performance.

I have to admit the same thoughts crossed my mind and reinforce my perception of the man.

Of course Tait wasn't the reason the Redbacks lost last night, but apart from assisting in a quick money grab for the Redbacks in T20 and himself, he is of no value to South Australian cricket with his attitude and declared position to only play T20 and nothing else in my humble opinion despite his potential to wreck havoc on batsmen for an over here or there.

I think he was one of the main reasons why they lost to be honest.
When the Bushrangers were around 5\109 Tait was called back into action, what a joke!!
That was the right move to give Blizzard & Co the confidence they needed to post a score of 166. Fours, sixes & no-balls were a regular thing from Taits bowling.
Why did Monou bring him back into the attack after Tait's showing of an injury? oh thats right he had a " bruised toe "

[aceman]

Sooner or later they will learn that if you continue to bowl anything shorter than up to the batting crease, you give the batsman every chance of getting underneath the ball and despatching it to the fence. Even a low full toss is harder to hit than 'half track' crap.

[bloods08]

I think the top 3 batsmen were more of the reason for us losing rather than Tait imo.