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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby bay boy » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:48 pm

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bazza1 wrote:One of our young lads went out with a group of opposition players on the weekend after sundays association matches, got fed quite a few alcoholic beverages and then got pressured into signing a clearance form. The president of there club wouldnt allow it saying he was too intoxicated ( good on the prez) Not the best of practices in my opinion.


I would say you haven't been told the whole story there bazza. He certainly wasn't pressured into signing a clearance form, infact we don't have any clearance forms we do them all electronically. He made first mention of the clearance, obviously in a joking manner, and yes i did talk to him on the phone and he was under the weather somewhat so i said we can speak again after he has had a sleep, not expecting to get a call.


Still bad form Bloods...


Yeah cause that is real bad form there Bay Boy..

Didnt stop The Hunter having a crack at a few players aswell on Sunday ;)


Bad form cause it was said in a joking manner and your President rings him straight away

What The Hunter does has nothing to do with me.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby CoverKing » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:49 pm

Points 2 and 6 are very enticing :lol:


Bay Boy. Learn the facts! Bloods never rang Christie. In fact, it was him that got a phone of one of our boys that rang Bloods.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby bay boy » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:02 pm

CoverKing wrote:Points 2 and 6 are very enticing :lol:


Bay Boy. Learn the facts! Bloods never rang Christie. In fact, it was him that got a phone of one of our boys that rang Bloods.


yeah sorry, guess i should've rang Bloods first and checked my facts. Bad journalism that.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby CoverKing » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:20 pm

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CoverKing wrote:Points 2 and 6 are very enticing :lol:


Bay Boy. Learn the facts! Bloods never rang Christie. In fact, it was him that got a phone of one of our boys that rang Bloods.


yeah sorry, guess i should've rang Bloods first and checked my facts. Bad journalism that.


Im sure he will ring you about it ;)
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:09 pm

bay boy wrote:
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bazza1 wrote:One of our young lads went out with a group of opposition players on the weekend after sundays association matches, got fed quite a few alcoholic beverages and then got pressured into signing a clearance form. The president of there club wouldnt allow it saying he was too intoxicated ( good on the prez) Not the best of practices in my opinion.


I would say you haven't been told the whole story there bazza. He certainly wasn't pressured into signing a clearance form, infact we don't have any clearance forms we do them all electronically. He made first mention of the clearance, obviously in a joking manner, and yes i did talk to him on the phone and he was under the weather somewhat so i said we can speak again after he has had a sleep, not expecting to get a call.


Still bad form Bloods...


Why because we didn't offer him money as you would have?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:12 pm

bay boy wrote:
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bay boy wrote:
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I would say you haven't been told the whole story there bazza. He certainly wasn't pressured into signing a clearance form, infact we don't have any clearance forms we do them all electronically. He made first mention of the clearance, obviously in a joking manner, and yes i did talk to him on the phone and he was under the weather somewhat so i said we can speak again after he has had a sleep, not expecting to get a call.


Still bad form Bloods...


Yeah cause that is real bad form there Bay Boy..

Didnt stop The Hunter having a crack at a few players aswell on Sunday ;)


Bad form cause it was said in a joking manner and your President rings him straight away

What The Hunter does has nothing to do with me.


Not sure what part of english you don't understand but i never rang Brad Christie. As i said earlier i wasn't comfortable talking about a clearance to a player under the weather.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:15 pm

jb wrote:thats why skinny manages the team isnt it? .


I think you should be careful saying things like that JB. Skinny has put his hand up to run the association side(s) because of the shambles they were in before hand. To say he is doing it to benefit WYC is a very poor and bitter comment as well as totally untrue.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:19 pm

jb wrote:they even told me the door was always open after the 1st assoc. game last year.

fair enough ck... i will apply for a dual registration with another club away from the asca because every other association does it...

not whinging or anything but if a teams a grade is in sec 1 and b grade is in sec 4... a player can play 1 week in the a's and week 2 in ths b's... IMO that is a pretty poor reason to not allow me to play but hey if you pay penuts you get monkeys, i cant say im too suprised really or all that pissed off.



Doors still open JB.

You are whinging, a fair bit of late, about the decision you were given. A player CAN'T play in section 1 and 4 in the same game and that has absolutely nothing to do with why your permit request was denied.

I will bite with your comment re: peanuts and monkeys. You whinge about our heat policy and many other things but if you were playing a decent level of district cricket you would've played more than 2 days in 8 weeks and all this sulking wouldn't have happened. So i say JB make a run get into the b's and none of this will concern you.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:20 pm

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Bay Boy. Learn the facts! .



He isn't interested in them CK. He just likes dribbling you know what.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:22 pm

jb wrote:i am unsure as to why anyone would wanna say they play for Western Youth Centre anyway... It sounds like a juvenile detention centre...


I think they call it success.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby jb » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:47 pm

wycbloods wrote:
jb wrote:they even told me the door was always open after the 1st assoc. game last year.

fair enough ck... i will apply for a dual registration with another club away from the asca because every other association does it...

not whinging or anything but if a teams a grade is in sec 1 and b grade is in sec 4... a player can play 1 week in the a's and week 2 in ths b's... IMO that is a pretty poor reason to not allow me to play but hey if you pay penuts you get monkeys, i cant say im too suprised really or all that pissed off.



Doors still open JB.

You are whinging, a fair bit of late, about the decision you were given. A player CAN'T play in section 1 and 4 in the same game and that has absolutely nothing to do with why your permit request was denied.

I will bite with your comment re: peanuts and monkeys. You whinge about our heat policy and many other things but if you were playing a decent level of district cricket you would've played more than 2 days in 8 weeks and all this sulking wouldn't have happened. So i say JB make a run get into the b's and none of this will concern you.


fair shout bloods, but those 2 days include the 2 weeks off for the bye and xmas so sarge wouldnt have played much more than me over this period anyway. it does concern me bloods i am still on the committee of an affiliated club so i am entitled to my opinions as much as i was when i was playing am i not?

i only brought up the swap player because ck said that is why it wasnt allowed but i still havnt heard the real genuine reason yet as i thought the reason for the association barring this from happening was to stop teams stacking sides and ruining the competition by playing them in finals...

and i next time before you decide to give me some "advice" on the way im going about my own cricket 60 runs @ 10 is not the greatest position to be sledging from, middle order too dont you bat??? i wish i came out at 6...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby jb » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:48 pm

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jb wrote:i am unsure as to why anyone would wanna say they play for Western Youth Centre anyway... It sounds like a juvenile detention centre...


I think they call it success.


call it what you like but if i was a western youth ranger i would be pushing to get rid of the youth, sounds embarrassing
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:01 pm

jb wrote:
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jb wrote:i am unsure as to why anyone would wanna say they play for Western Youth Centre anyway... It sounds like a juvenile detention centre...


I think they call it success.


call it what you like but if i was a western youth ranger i would be pushing to get rid of the youth, sounds embarrassing


Why does it sound embarrassing JB?

We have a proud history as a member club of the Western Youth Centre who have been helping out the youth of the western suburbs for over 50 years.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby caleb777 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:02 pm

i reckon everything would be solved if you all became ramblers, we dont really care what other clubs do! hahaha, we do our own thing
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Tight_Lines » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:02 pm

Has there ever been this much fuss over you before JB in your life?

Interesting one to come out of Saturday as one of our Section 3 players has been reported for using the C word when a run out was not given on the last ball to complete the winning runs. Personally I think yes he should be suspended if the story is what has been told to me but again this comes back to the associations decision to not take further action against a player because it was close to finals.

I would be in the same opinion even if he wasnt from Sheidow and i dont think this is against us but as a player of the association I question the consistency.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:08 pm

jb wrote:
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jb wrote:they even told me the door was always open after the 1st assoc. game last year.

fair enough ck... i will apply for a dual registration with another club away from the asca because every other association does it...

not whinging or anything but if a teams a grade is in sec 1 and b grade is in sec 4... a player can play 1 week in the a's and week 2 in ths b's... IMO that is a pretty poor reason to not allow me to play but hey if you pay penuts you get monkeys, i cant say im too suprised really or all that pissed off.



Doors still open JB.

You are whinging, a fair bit of late, about the decision you were given. A player CAN'T play in section 1 and 4 in the same game and that has absolutely nothing to do with why your permit request was denied.

I will bite with your comment re: peanuts and monkeys. You whinge about our heat policy and many other things but if you were playing a decent level of district cricket you would've played more than 2 days in 8 weeks and all this sulking wouldn't have happened. So i say JB make a run get into the b's and none of this will concern you.


fair shout bloods, but those 2 days include the 2 weeks off for the bye and xmas so sarge wouldnt have played much more than me over this period anyway. it does concern me bloods i am still on the committee of an affiliated club so i am entitled to my opinions as much as i was when i was playing am i not?

i only brought up the swap player because ck said that is why it wasnt allowed but i still havnt heard the real genuine reason yet as i thought the reason for the association barring this from happening was to stop teams stacking sides and ruining the competition by playing them in finals...

and i next time before you decide to give me some "advice" on the way im going about my own cricket 60 runs @ 10 is not the greatest position to be sledging from, middle order too dont you bat??? i wish i came out at 6...


Of course you are. I am sure i have not said otherwise. Mal Condon will have spoken to Phil Davis by now i would imagine, if not in the near future, which will detail the real reason.

The association, or dual registrations, IMO isn't there for people to return from district cricket during byes. It is there so that a link is still there for players between their community club and the district club. It is to make it easier for players to return full time to the community club or where a player is dropped from the bottom district grade to ensure that person gets a game of cricket. You must have missed the memo too JB i am a bowler nowadays ;)
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:09 pm

Tight_Lines wrote:Has there ever been this much fuss over you before JB in your life?

Interesting one to come out of Saturday as one of our Section 3 players has been reported for using the C word when a run out was not given on the last ball to complete the winning runs. Personally I think yes he should be suspended if the story is what has been told to me but again this comes back to the associations decision to not take further action against a player because it was close to finals.

I would be in the same opinion even if he wasnt from Sheidow and i dont think this is against us but as a player of the association I question the consistency.


This report wasn't tabled at last nights meeting TL.

It will be interesting to hear the story.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Moe » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:24 pm

caleb777 wrote:i reckon everything would be solved if you all became ramblers, we dont really care what other clubs do! hahaha, we do our own thing

Ease up caleb777, i offered first :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:31 pm

bay boy wrote:
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I would say you haven't been told the whole story there bazza. He certainly wasn't pressured into signing a clearance form, infact we don't have any clearance forms we do them all electronically. He made first mention of the clearance, obviously in a joking manner, and yes i did talk to him on the phone and he was under the weather somewhat so i said we can speak again after he has had a sleep, not expecting to get a call.


Still bad form Bloods...


Yeah cause that is real bad form there Bay Boy..

Didnt stop The Hunter having a crack at a few players aswell on Sunday ;)


Bad form cause it was said in a joking manner and your President rings him straight away

What The Hunter does has nothing to do with me.


But what i do does....................?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Moe » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:13 pm

JohnnyG wrote:
Moe wrote:......................

1. We need a 1 day comp badly for lower grades. Especially Divs 5-7.
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Just my own personal opinion - i agree that there should be perhaps one Division set aside for 1 day games, however, i would vehemently disagree with your proposal for 1 day comp for Divs 5-7 (even more so if only playing 1 saturday in 2).

I think that the proposed 1 day comp being a solution to the problem of players being unavailable has been way overstated, as the real problem is actually a lack of committment by players. Why cater to the lowest common factor?

There are heaps of players in Divs 5-7 who want and will play both Saturdays and not 1 in every 2.
Furthermore, as many players discover that in the 1 day format, many of them will not get much opportunity to participate other than to field & perhaps bat with only a few overs left, then they too will be disenchanted and lost to the game.
I for one would look to play in a different association/club if your proposal ever came about in the ASCA.

Fair enough too. Have thought alot about this 1 day comp this week.
I agree now that there should be a separate division for a 1 day competition. Maybe to stop wholesale defection from other teams, entry be limited to clubs who have at least 2 teams in the 2 day comp, and if you cannot field those 2 sides you cannot field a one day side?
I also agree with Madrooster that it will prolong careers, and even entice players back (like myself, :shock: can hear the sniggering from here) because playing on alternate Saturdays would help with work & family (wife) life.

Perhaps at the start of the season your club is to nominate a "squad" to be used as a roster for the season with limited permits allowed for injuries or special cicumstances. This might eliminate clubs having ringins from higher grades being used.
Another issue would be finding extra grounds for matches, extra costs perhaps, umpires etc.
It is all very subjective, but i for one know we could fill a one day squad right now without using any of our current 2 day players.
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