Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[Moe]

The Coromandel v ramblers result really does put the cat amongst the pidgeons. Had Ramblers won, nearly would have shut the door.
Morphies v Sheidow this week, Ramblers v. Sth. Road.
BIG games. Then Morphies v. Coro, & Ramblers next 2. Bugger me, we are not done yet.
I reckon the WYC boys might not rate us so lowly next time we play.
MPCC is improving with each outing.

I think next season we should run a club championship, ala district cricket.
20 points per A grade win, 15 points B grade win & so on.
Could be fine tuned easily.

One other point. If there was prize money for this T20 comp, lets say $1000. How many clubs would take it more seriously? Also lets set dates to play games properly, you know, Round 1 Dec 15th, Round 2 Jan 4 etc ( dates only for examples ) so cubs can put these in their social calendar for the year?

Only a thought.

[bazza1]

Moe, the only way the T20 will really take of is when the association take the concept seriously. The men in charge have all good intentions, but when you let the clubs take charge of when you play these games, its fraught with danger of the games becoming a farce. I agree with you Moe, the association need to program matches because being the sheep we are, we will do what we are told and then there wont be any problems.

[Moe]

Moe, the only way the T20 will really take of is when the association take the concept seriously. The men in charge have all good intentions, but when you let the clubs take charge of when you play these games, its fraught with danger of the games becoming a farce. I agree with you Moe, the association need to program matches because being the sheep we are, we will do what we are told and then there wont be any problems.

I agree with you to a point Bazza, but up until this year i have never worried about what the Assoc. heirachy has done. Rather i have put all efforts into my own club and getting that structure right. Now that MPCC is running well i feel it is time for our club, which has been a minnow & underestimated in the ASCA for a long time, to stand up for what i/we believe is right. A few suggestions i will bring up now because i have the time & am sober
1. We need a 1 day comp badly for lower grades. Especially Divs 5-7.
2. We need our "Code of conduct" adhered to more stringedly, with players fined/suspended for bad behaviour & umpires not afraid to step in when needed more often. Our league is slowly denegrating in my opinion.
3. A medal for players who win a premiership. (Only a small thing, but bugger me, they cost $5 each)
4. A better selection criteria for Assoc. matches.
5. An effing better ron T20 comp.
6. Meeting once before & once after between every A grade captain & umpires to discuss problems. This means every club is represented.
7. Every club MUST have an A grade scorer. They are more important than umpires most times.
8. Some kind of prize money for winning a Premiership?

Only my thoughts.......

[dundee12]

9. Moe has way to much time on his hands and should spend it with the wife and kids!

[someguy1]

Moe, the only way the T20 will really take of is when the association take the concept seriously. The men in charge have all good intentions, but when you let the clubs take charge of when you play these games, its fraught with danger of the games becoming a farce. I agree with you Moe, the association need to program matches because being the sheep we are, we will do what we are told and then there wont be any problems.

Personally I think the 20/20 should be a round robin comp the same way that district and turf are run. 2 groups with seedings with the top of each group playing off in the final. If were going to play it lets at least play it properly.

[Jabber]

Moe, the only way the T20 will really take of is when the association take the concept seriously. The men in charge have all good intentions, but when you let the clubs take charge of when you play these games, its fraught with danger of the games becoming a farce. I agree with you Moe, the association need to program matches because being the sheep we are, we will do what we are told and then there wont be any problems.

I agree with you to a point Bazza, but up until this year i have never worried about what the Assoc. heirachy has done. Rather i have put all efforts into my own club and getting that structure right. Now that MPCC is running well i feel it is time for our club, which has been a minnow & underestimated in the ASCA for a long time, to stand up for what i/we believe is right. A few suggestions i will bring up now because i have the time & am sober
1. We need a 1 day comp badly for lower grades. Especially Divs 5-7.
2. We need our "Code of conduct" adhered to more stringedly, with players fined/suspended for bad behaviour & umpires not afraid to step in when needed more often. Our league is slowly denegrating in my opinion.
3. A medal for players who win a premiership. (Only a small thing, but bugger me, they cost $5 each)
4. A better selection criteria for Assoc. matches.
5. An effing better ron T20 comp.
6. Meeting once before & once after between every A grade captain & umpires to discuss problems. This means every club is represented.
7. Every club MUST have an A grade scorer. They are more important than umpires most times.
8. Some kind of prize money for winning a Premiership?

Only my thoughts.......

Following on with your extremely good points there moe, i'd like to throw this one in and see what you guys think...

In ASCA cricket what is the pinncale? a section 1 premiership of course, so therefore it should be the pinncale game of the season, and no other matches played while it is on.

I propose that the section one finals system be changed to a 3 week system, with 1v2, 3v4, winner of 1v2 into the final with a weeks break, and the loser getting a second chance to make the big one against the winner of 3v4. this actually gives the top 2 sides more of an advantage with a double chance, which i think is a fitting reward for being the top 2 sides at the end of the season.

sections 2-7 stay a 2 week system, so that the pinnacle game can be attended by all clubs accross the association.

The season need not go any longer, because you would introduce another 1 day game into the comp across all grades, most probably the first game after the break, which would be handy with a lot of people still away in xmas holidays etc you dont have to worry about super-subs.

This would in fact make section 2-7 one week shorter.

The argument against is that it would make a lot of cricket in a 3 week period, but in response to that it should be very hard to win a flag, especially i section one flag.

[Tight_Lines]

I think that ones been mentioned a thousand times on here but has anyone forward it to the association yet? No real advantage from finishing 1st to 4th other then weather and some home grounds never found that a real advantage/disadvantage anywhere tho, I like the idea of Section 1 final being alone on the last week to get some atmosphere.

[Jabber]

I think that ones been mentioned a thousand times on here but has anyone forward it to the association yet? No real advantage from finishing 1st to 4th other then weather and some home grounds never found that a real advantage/disadvantage anywhere tho, I like the idea of Section 1 final being alone on the last week to get some atmosphere.

Plympton is going to be putting something in writing toward the end of the year, be good to drum up some support for the idea before putting it forward

[Moe]

9. Moe has way to much time on his hands and should spend it with the wife and kids!

Thanks for the suggestion. As a good father (just like you d12) my kids were snug in bed asleep, and the wife was too, quite content and satisfied with the "time" i had just spent with her.
Like to see this caring attitude more, like when i cannot get you blokes out of the bar every weekend so i could be home

[adelaide bank]

I like your ideas moe and for once agree with you

[jb]

so whats the go with the associations stance on players coming back from grade cricket during byes and rained out games... i was told by southern districts to go back during the bye and hopefully get some time in the middle due to the limited cricket we have played and according to the saca aslong as i have dual rego there is nothing stopping me?

[wycbloods]

.I reckon the WYC boys might not rate us so lowly next time we play. Sth. Road.

What made you think we rated you "lowly" this time around Moe?

Was nice of you to introduce yourself saturday as well .

[wycbloods]

It was great to see our bowlers do so well without a great input from Hoppy saturday.

JWKDD bowled superbly at the death and Harvey bowled tightly throughout the middle of the innings.

Our batters nearly all got starts but with 6 scores of 15-23 no one went on with it which was a cause for concern.

I would think Whellum is still trying to workout how he was given not out LBW first ball that was a stinker .

[someguy1]

It was great to see our bowlers do so well without a great input from Hoppy saturday.

JWKDD bowled superbly at the death and Harvey bowled tightly throughout the middle of the innings.

Our batters nearly all got starts but with 6 scores of 15-23 no one went on with it which was a cause for concern.

I would think Whellum is still trying to workout how he was given not out LBW first ball that was a stinker .

Zads didn't have the best of days we'll agree on that, but with the two caught behinds that weren't given and the "too close to call" run out you're still in front on the day. Some unknown leg spinner won you guys the game, 1/12 off 8 overs very good spell of bowling.

[wycbloods]

It was great to see our bowlers do so well without a great input from Hoppy saturday.

JWKDD bowled superbly at the death and Harvey bowled tightly throughout the middle of the innings.

Our batters nearly all got starts but with 6 scores of 15-23 no one went on with it which was a cause for concern.

I would think Whellum is still trying to workout how he was given not out LBW first ball that was a stinker .

Zads didn't have the best of days we'll agree on that, but with the two caught behinds that weren't given and the "too close to call" run out you're still in front on the day. Some unknown leg spinner won you guys the game, 1/12 off 8 overs very good spell of bowling.

I didn't realise there were 2 caught behinds given not out i knew one but he thought he hit the ground. I am not surprised they were given not out k Brokensha smashed a bottom edge at one stage that was given leg byes, good thing benny didn't catch it that would have been ugly. Spehr was laughing at the non strikers end as he couldn't believe what he just saw.

[wycbloods]

Can't comment on the run out, the angle we are on makes it too hard.

[Real McCoy]

Any scores from yesterday's Assc games ?

[someguy1]

Can't comment on the run out, the angle we are on makes it too hard.

It was great to see our bowlers do so well without a great input from Hoppy saturday.

JWKDD bowled superbly at the death and Harvey bowled tightly throughout the middle of the innings.

Our batters nearly all got starts but with 6 scores of 15-23 no one went on with it which was a cause for concern.

I would think Whellum is still trying to workout how he was given not out LBW first ball that was a stinker .

Zads didn't have the best of days we'll agree on that, but with the two caught behinds that weren't given and the "too close to call" run out you're still in front on the day. Some unknown leg spinner won you guys the game, 1/12 off 8 overs very good spell of bowling.

I didn't realise there were 2 caught behinds given not out i knew one but he thought he hit the ground. I am not surprised they were given not out k Brokensha smashed a bottom edge at one stage that was given leg byes, good thing benny didn't catch it that would have been ugly. Spehr was laughing at the non strikers end as he couldn't believe what he just saw.

Second caught behind was Fiebiger first ball. Run out was pretty close but looked out (was Fiebiger again I think), Ben said it would have been a 3rd umpire decision.

We're gonna have to give our guys a scoring lesson as well. We thought we needed 4 off the last ball, turned out we needed 5. Would have been interesting if big bessy had hit that boundry.

[wycbloods]

Any scores from yesterday's Assc games ?

Both sids batted first. Seniors 260 odd and 21's 200. Not sure who made runs in either.

Both lost with Para Districts being 8 down in both chases i think.

JWKDD took 4 fa in the 21's. Thats all i know.

[wycbloods]

Can't comment on the run out, the angle we are on makes it too hard.

It was great to see our bowlers do so well without a great input from Hoppy saturday.

JWKDD bowled superbly at the death and Harvey bowled tightly throughout the middle of the innings.

Our batters nearly all got starts but with 6 scores of 15-23 no one went on with it which was a cause for concern.

I would think Whellum is still trying to workout how he was given not out LBW first ball that was a stinker .

Zads didn't have the best of days we'll agree on that, but with the two caught behinds that weren't given and the "too close to call" run out you're still in front on the day. Some unknown leg spinner won you guys the game, 1/12 off 8 overs very good spell of bowling.

I didn't realise there were 2 caught behinds given not out i knew one but he thought he hit the ground. I am not surprised they were given not out k Brokensha smashed a bottom edge at one stage that was given leg byes, good thing benny didn't catch it that would have been ugly. Spehr was laughing at the non strikers end as he couldn't believe what he just saw.

Second caught behind was Fiebiger first ball. Run out was pretty close but looked out (was Fiebiger again I think), Ben said it would have been a 3rd umpire decision.

We're gonna have to give our guys a scoring lesson as well. We thought we needed 4 off the last ball, turned out we needed 5. Would have been interesting if big bessy had hit that boundry.

I remember the other one now. Pressy thought that was out from square leg. I guess Ben's decision is fair enough for the run out if it is that close the batsmen gets the benefit of the doubt.