Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby MrTeach » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:02 am

I agree the Enc Bay pitch is not that bad at all, i have certainly played on worse. I played on Park 25 pitch one day and 23 wickets fell in the day it was terrible.

Even early in the season the Bay pitch holds up reasonably well considering the rain they receive. One thing Enc Bay gives you is the opportunity to make runs, if you get forward and play straight then it plays well
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Richard Chee Quee » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:25 am

MrTeach wrote:I agree the Enc Bay pitch is not that bad at all, i have certainly played on worse. I played on Park 25 pitch one day and 23 wickets fell in the day it was terrible.

Even early in the season the Bay pitch holds up reasonably well considering the rain they receive. One thing Enc Bay gives you is the opportunity to make runs, if you get forward and play straight then it plays well


mr teach im sure you can back me up when i also say compared to some district club wickets, especially southerns districts, the bay turf scrubs very well.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby busta » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:39 am

MrTeach wrote:I agree the Enc Bay pitch is not that bad at all, i have certainly played on worse. I played on Park 25 pitch one day and 23 wickets fell in the day it was terrible.

Even early in the season the Bay pitch holds up reasonably well considering the rain they receive. One thing Enc Bay gives you is the opportunity to make runs, if you get forward and play straight then it plays well


Yeah i think its a great pitch to play on, however i think that away teams over think how to play on turf, instead of playing forward and playing straight like you say MrTeach!
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Hot Pies » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:47 am

MrTeach wrote:I agree the Enc Bay pitch is not that bad at all, i have certainly played on worse. I played on Park 25 pitch one day and 23 wickets fell in the day it was terrible.

Even early in the season the Bay pitch holds up reasonably well considering the rain they receive. One thing Enc Bay gives you is the opportunity to make runs, if you get forward and play straight then it plays well



i can recall one team getting bowled out twice in a day on the turf and earlier this year 16 wickets fell in the space of 110 runs , i think most people will agree yes its a credit to ebay having a turf wicket and how much effort they put in to it but i would like to know why they dont have covers for it ..?? as its pooring with rain atm will the pitch play as true as you say it will this weekend ??? and will bryce get to play on a "proper" cricket pitch??? when we played ebay earlier in the year it was wet and dismal had we won the toss and bowled first i think the we would have had that chance of winning by the time ebay batted the sun was out and there wasnt as many balls wizzing passed your face from a good lenght ball..personlly id perfer to play on my front lawn than play my cricket on ebays turf but thats my opinion.....not going to say its the worst around but surely it helps encounter bay knowing what the pitch will play like all week before playing home games it definatly a benifit for ebay

and i think the meyer shield final will be played either port elliot or goolwa from what trophy head told me
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Richard Chee Quee » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:01 pm

bloods, we do have covers for it but the problem doesnt rest with having covers or not having covers. you have to have made a pitch (cut it, rolled it etc) before you can cover it. we lost the day against mclaren because it rained on thursday and we couldnt make a wicket. and theres no point in covering an unmade pitch. also with the covers you need about 8 or more blokes to put them down, if its a bit windy then forget about because you will be half to milang before you hit the ground again.

it takes about an hour and a half to put them down on friday night and if theres a juniors game there in the morning it means 8 or more blokes rocking up at sun up to take them off, dry the heshan and re-roll the wicket. its not a small operation to put the covers down. if we had a heap of blokes that would come down on friday night and help put them down and then take them up again at 6 o'clock on saturday morning then we would do it every week, but we dont.

also we dont know how it will play until we play on it. you can look at it and say it will be good for batting but there is always something in it for both teams. yes winning the toss is important but not as important as playing straight and bowling good line and length. which is not what you guys did when we played you there. so you didnt win. we got your 60 odd runs 5 down you cant say it dried out and the ball wasnt moving because it was. difference was we had blokes who play straight and bat with patience and then we have mods who can hit 25 off one over and win the game. all things you guys dont have.

the way tim clarke batted that day was the way everyone of your bats should go bout it. he made 30 odd and top scored for the day i think. he played straight and with patience and thats why he made runs.

any way enough of the turf talk, as the people who have a dig clearly dont know whats involved in caring for it. and until your clubs get turf wickets you never will.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Hot Pies » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:24 pm

Richard Chee Quee wrote:bloods, we do have covers for it but the problem doesnt rest with having covers or not having covers. you have to have made a pitch (cut it, rolled it etc) before you can cover it. we lost the day against mclaren because it rained on thursday and we couldnt make a wicket. and theres no point in covering an unmade pitch. also with the covers you need about 8 or more blokes to put them down, if its a bit windy then forget about because you will be half to milang before you hit the ground again.

it takes about an hour and a half to put them down on friday night and if theres a juniors game there in the morning it means 8 or more blokes rocking up at sun up to take them off, dry the heshan and re-roll the wicket. its not a small operation to put the covers down. if we had a heap of blokes that would come down on friday night and help put them down and then take them up again at 6 o'clock on saturday morning then we would do it every week, but we dont.

also we dont know how it will play until we play on it. you can look at it and say it will be good for batting but there is always something in it for both teams. yes winning the toss is important but not as important as playing straight and bowling good line and length. which is not what you guys did when we played you there. so you didnt win. we got your 60 odd runs 5 down you cant say it dried out and the ball wasnt moving because it was. difference was we had blokes who play straight and bat with patience and then we have mods who can hit 25 off one over and win the game. all things you guys dont have.

the way tim clarke batted that day was the way everyone of your bats should go bout it. he made 30 odd and top scored for the day i think. he played straight and with patience and thats why he made runs.

any way enough of the turf talk, as the people who have a dig clearly dont know whats involved in caring for it. and until your clubs get turf wickets you never will.



definately a touchy subject....it had dried up alot by the time you guys played on it, there where the occasional moving balls not like in the first innings every ball was hard to play, you guys were in trouble and mods should of exchanged his willow for a wilson tennis racket the way he played some of his shots...playing straight wasnt on his agenda he slapped yous out of trouble, but i do here what ya saying richard it would be alot of trouble mats i didnt realise that..and tim made 8 wasnt in long at all m consalvo made our runs and wasnt playing patiently
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby sherminator » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:46 pm

I've seen on other association's pages discussions about the T20. A lot of other leagues include T20 fixtures in their programmes and are played for premiership points. What do you guys think? Would that work in GSCA? Was eveyone happy with our T20 format this season?

I personally couldn't give a rat's a**e about T20, but am a little bit bored and feel the Encounter Bay pitch discussion is getting a bit long in the tooth!!
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby W.P.U.J.C.Vaas » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:53 pm

sherminator wrote:I've seen on other association's pages discussions about the T20. A lot of other leagues include T20 fixtures in their programmes and are played for premiership points. What do you guys think? Would that work in GSCA? Was eveyone happy with our T20 format this season?

I personally couldn't give a rat's a**e about T20, but am a little bit bored and feel the Encounter Bay pitch discussion is getting a bit long in the tooth!!


would rather play twenty20's than the current 40 over a side one dayer.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby WestIndiesWonder24 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:04 pm

W.P.U.J.C.Vaas wrote:
sherminator wrote:I've seen on other association's pages discussions about the T20. A lot of other leagues include T20 fixtures in their programmes and are played for premiership points. What do you guys think? Would that work in GSCA? Was eveyone happy with our T20 format this season?

I personally couldn't give a rat's a**e about T20, but am a little bit bored and feel the Encounter Bay pitch discussion is getting a bit long in the tooth!!


would rather play twenty20's than the current 40 over a side one dayer.


No 40 over cricket is great....But in saying that if it is like 40 degrees like it was on Saturday maybe the captains should decide or the league that a 20 20 could be played???????

Anyone Agree???
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Jimmy Recard » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:16 pm

i think 20/20 should be incorporated into the fixture for points, 20/20 cricket is great i believe and would love to play more of it!!
not sure how u would work it tho, maybe you could have a couple of designated 20/20 rounds, where you play 2 20/20s on the one day... cricket season is a long season anyways tho, but would love to see more of it played!
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby W.P.U.J.C.Vaas » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:17 pm

i find that the 40 over game drags itself out too much.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Richard Chee Quee » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:28 pm

i think twenty20 needs to stay seperate. run a comp similar to this year but not for premiership points. maybe not a knock out though. make it that every club plays four games and the two teams with the highest percentage play off in a final.

realisticly that probably wont happen but i think i would be a good idea.

also make the 30 yard circle mandatory. on all grounds.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby W.P.U.J.C.Vaas » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:36 pm

Richard Chee Quee wrote:i think twenty20 needs to stay seperate. run a comp similar to this year but not for premiership points. maybe not a knock out though. make it that every club plays four games and the two teams with the highest percentage play off in a final.

realisticly that probably wont happen but i think i would be a good idea.

also make the 30 yard circle mandatory. on all grounds.


would have to be played at a similar date as this years T20 comp. you would think due to time.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby bev lad » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:02 am

I reckon incorperating the T20 into the fixtures would be a good idea maybe if there is 2 played in a day, half points will be given for wins. This could maybe happen 2 or 3 times a year.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby a.chucka » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:31 pm

Richard Chee Quee wrote:bloods, we do have covers for it but the problem doesnt rest with having covers or not having covers. you have to have made a pitch (cut it, rolled it etc) before you can cover it. we lost the day against mclaren because it rained on thursday and we couldnt make a wicket. and theres no point in covering an unmade pitch. also with the covers you need about 8 or more blokes to put them down, if its a bit windy then forget about because you will be half to milang before you hit the ground again.

it takes about an hour and a half to put them down on friday night and if theres a juniors game there in the morning it means 8 or more blokes rocking up at sun up to take them off, dry the heshan and re-roll the wicket. its not a small operation to put the covers down. if we had a heap of blokes that would come down on friday night and help put them down and then take them up again at 6 o'clock on saturday morning then we would do it every week, but we dont.

also we dont know how it will play until we play on it. you can look at it and say it will be good for batting but there is always something in it for both teams. yes winning the toss is important but not as important as playing straight and bowling good line and length. which is not what you guys did when we played you there. so you didnt win. we got your 60 odd runs 5 down you cant say it dried out and the ball wasnt moving because it was. difference was we had blokes who play straight and bat with patience and then we have mods who can hit 25 off one over and win the game. all things you guys dont have.
the way tim clarke batted that day was the way everyone of your bats should go bout it. he made 30 odd and top scored for the day i think. he played straight and with patience and thats why he made runs.

any way enough of the turf talk, as the people who have a dig clearly dont know whats involved in caring for it. and until your clubs get turf wickets you never will.



Unfortunatley 75% of the players in a club wouldn't have a clue what goes on behind the scenes to get all the teams on the park each week. 25% of the people do 100% of the work and the others just are happy to reap the benefits without putting in any effort. From reports this year the Bay wicket is very sound and in good condition compared to majority of the wickets in ATCA. Played on some very dodgey wickets there.
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby busta » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:16 pm

If teams were keen enough i reckon twenty20 could be played on the sunday, either for premiership points or in a separate comp, but would love to play in more!
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Yoda.jr » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:06 pm

i was just looking at ladders, y do Mount Compass have 2 A Grade teams when they are both sitting last and second last, why dont they just have one A Grade and then they might win some more games?
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby W.P.U.J.C.Vaas » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:29 pm

Yoda.jr wrote:i was just looking at ladders, y do Mount Compass have 2 A Grade teams when they are both sitting last and second last, why dont they just have one A Grade and then they might win some more games?


they have 2 teams this year so there isn't a bye in A's :roll:
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Richard Chee Quee » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:45 pm

a.chucka wrote:
Richard Chee Quee wrote:bloods, we do have covers for it but the problem doesnt rest with having covers or not having covers. you have to have made a pitch (cut it, rolled it etc) before you can cover it. we lost the day against mclaren because it rained on thursday and we couldnt make a wicket. and theres no point in covering an unmade pitch. also with the covers you need about 8 or more blokes to put them down, if its a bit windy then forget about because you will be half to milang before you hit the ground again.

it takes about an hour and a half to put them down on friday night and if theres a juniors game there in the morning it means 8 or more blokes rocking up at sun up to take them off, dry the heshan and re-roll the wicket. its not a small operation to put the covers down. if we had a heap of blokes that would come down on friday night and help put them down and then take them up again at 6 o'clock on saturday morning then we would do it every week, but we dont.

also we dont know how it will play until we play on it. you can look at it and say it will be good for batting but there is always something in it for both teams. yes winning the toss is important but not as important as playing straight and bowling good line and length. which is not what you guys did when we played you there. so you didnt win. we got your 60 odd runs 5 down you cant say it dried out and the ball wasnt moving because it was. difference was we had blokes who play straight and bat with patience and then we have mods who can hit 25 off one over and win the game. all things you guys dont have.
the way tim clarke batted that day was the way everyone of your bats should go bout it. he made 30 odd and top scored for the day i think. he played straight and with patience and thats why he made runs.

any way enough of the turf talk, as the people who have a dig clearly dont know whats involved in caring for it. and until your clubs get turf wickets you never will.



Unfortunatley 75% of the players in a club wouldn't have a clue what goes on behind the scenes to get all the teams on the park each week. 25% of the people do 100% of the work and the others just are happy to reap the benefits without putting in any effort. From reports this year the Bay wicket is very sound and in good condition compared to majority of the wickets in ATCA. Played on some very dodgey wickets there.


here here, could not agree more
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Re: Great Southern Cricket Association 2009-10

Postby Ramadash » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:25 am

W.P.U.J.C.Vaas wrote:
Yoda.jr wrote:i was just looking at ladders, y do Mount Compass have 2 A Grade teams when they are both sitting last and second last, why dont they just have one A Grade and then they might win some more games?


they have 2 teams this year so there isn't a bye in A's :roll:


haven't been on for a while but i must take my hat off to the compass maroon team whom have taken one for the whole association. I know there is nothing worse than going out to play cricket knowing you've got very limited chance of getting a win. so hats off to the boys that keep fronting up week in week out.

Has anyone else noticed the standard of each grade has dropped dramatically over the last five years. just putting this one out there what do you guys think?

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