Over rated cricketers

[Rik E Boy]

Cameron White
Phil Hughes

In that order Pidge, in that order.

regards,

REB

Although it's a pretty close contest, i would have to agree with you.

People saying Phil Hughes is over rated is a joke. He has just turned 21. He has scored 2 test tons in 6 tests. He doesnt have a conventional technique, but that doesnt make him a carp cricketer, his record at first class is amazingly good. His test record is damn good aswell for someone just starting out...

People that think Phil Hughes is over rated IMO have not much of a clue about cricket. His mentality as a batsman is as good as it comes. Its not all about technique!

Absolute carp. His mentality is getting him out as much as his technique. Age is irrelevant when someone thinks someone is overrated or not. Hughes is a highly rated batsman and from what I saw in England I'm ****** if I know why. What the bolded part of your post is saying is 'if you don't agree with my opinion then you have no idea about cricket'. That my friend, is a huge crock of shit.

regards,

REB

[Lightning McQueen]

In that order Pidge, in that order.

regards,

REB

Although it's a pretty close contest, i would have to agree with you.

People saying Phil Hughes is over rated is a joke. He has just turned 21. He has scored 2 test tons in 6 tests. He doesnt have a conventional technique, but that doesnt make him a carp cricketer, his record at first class is amazingly good. His test record is damn good aswell for someone just starting out...

People that think Phil Hughes is over rated IMO have not much of a clue about cricket. His mentality as a batsman is as good as it comes. Its not all about technique!

Absolute carp. His mentality is getting him out as much as his technique. Age is irrelevant when someone thinks someone is overrated or not. Hughes is a highly rated batsman and from what I saw in England I'm ****** if I know why. What the bolded part of your post is saying is 'if you don't agree with my opinion then you have no idea about cricket'. That my friend, is a huge crock of ****.

regards,

REB

You swear a lot.

[Rik E Boy]

Yeah I tend to swear a lot when someone who wasn't even born when I started playing cricket tells me I have no idea about the game just because he doesn't agree with me. He is a lot better Cricketer than me though.

regards,

REB

[wycbloods]

I think people's view on how highly someone is rated is based too much on a journalist or journalists who themselves have not much idea about our great game.

Yes Hughes is obviously rated as a cricketer by the national selectors as they have picked him. But who are we kidding if we expected him to come into test cricket and not get tested out and have some faults shown up as all young batsmen have had to endure at some stage of their careers.

Everyone will have differing opinions on this and mine on Hughes is that he is obviously one that the national selectors, love em or hate em, believe can make it at the top level and from what i have seen he will make it in time, but some things need to be worked on for him to do that. Where is the best place to work on them against the best in the world at test level or at state level, where he has not had half the problems he has at test level?

I think he will learn more and do it quicker at the test level but we may have to endure a tough patch whilst he does this.

[Rik E Boy]

I think people's view on how highly someone is rated is based too much on a journalist or journalists who themselves have not much idea about our great game.

Yes Hughes is obviously rated as a cricketer by the national selectors as they have picked him. But who are we kidding if we expected him to come into test cricket and not get tested out and have some faults shown up as all young batsmen have had to endure at some stage of their careers.

Everyone will have differing opinions on this and mine on Hughes is that he is obviously one that the national selectors, love em or hate em, believe can make it at the top level and from what i have seen he will make it in time, but some things need to be worked on for him to do that. Where is the best place to work on them against the best in the world at test level or at state level, where he has not had half the problems he has at test level?

I think he will learn more and do it quicker at the test level but we may have to endure a tough patch whilst he does this.

Mate, I hope he can. Maybe it's my pessimistic nature that has me fearing for his future. I reckon Test cricket could break him or make him, so yeah a tough call for the selectors. His potential is massive there's no doubt about it, but at the moment he is Slater without the technique. Also, just because I believe he is overrated, that doesn't mean i think he can't play, it's just that he isn't as good as he is cracked up to be by many observers IMO.

regards,

REB

[wycbloods]

I think people's view on how highly someone is rated is based too much on a journalist or journalists who themselves have not much idea about our great game.

Yes Hughes is obviously rated as a cricketer by the national selectors as they have picked him. But who are we kidding if we expected him to come into test cricket and not get tested out and have some faults shown up as all young batsmen have had to endure at some stage of their careers.

Everyone will have differing opinions on this and mine on Hughes is that he is obviously one that the national selectors, love em or hate em, believe can make it at the top level and from what i have seen he will make it in time, but some things need to be worked on for him to do that. Where is the best place to work on them against the best in the world at test level or at state level, where he has not had half the problems he has at test level?

I think he will learn more and do it quicker at the test level but we may have to endure a tough patch whilst he does this.

Mate, I hope he can. Maybe it's my pessimistic nature that has me fearing for his future. I reckon Test cricket could break him or make him, so yeah a tough call for the selectors. His potential is massive there's no doubt about it, but at the moment he is Slater without the technique. Also, just because I believe he is overrated, that doesn't mean i think he can't play, it's just that he isn't as good as he is cracked up to be by many observers IMO.

regards,

REB

I guess i was more getting at why do so many people listen so much to journalists and their opinions on players, i believe that is where people generally get their feelings on how high a player is "rated". Fair enough to take on board what a Taylor or Warne says but to form an opinion, which many do not saying that you are, on a journalists view is wrong IMO.

[smithy]

'if you don't agree with my opinion then you have no idea about cricket'. That my friend, is a huge crock of ****.

regards,

REB

Funny you should bring that up.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I think people's view on how highly someone is rated is based too much on a journalist or journalists who themselves have not much idea about our great game.

Yep, that has been a concern of mine, as well as people who rate cricketers, footballers, etc based on statistics only. It's the brave new world

[Rik E Boy]

'if you don't agree with my opinion then you have no idea about cricket'. That my friend, is a huge crock of ****.

regards,

REB

Funny you should bring that up.

I don't recall saying anything like that to you smiffy. Having a difference of opinion are what what these thingos are all about.

regards,

REB

[Pidge]

I'll throw a candidate out for an Under-rated Cricketer

Andrew McDonald.

IMO he should be in the Australian Test Team. Except i don't know where i'd fit him in. He isn't proven with the bat, but can do a reasonable job. When bowling, he can tie down one end, which creates pressure and results in wickets at the other end.

[rod_rooster]

I'll throw a candidate out for an Under-rated Cricketer

Andrew McDonald.

IMO he should be in the Australian Test Team. Except i don't know where i'd fit him in. He isn't proven with the bat, but can do a reasonable job. When bowling, he can tie down one end, which creates pressure and results in wickets at the other end.

He's not good enough to play as a batsman, he's not good enough to play as a bowler, he's simply not good enough.

[Pidge]

I'll throw a candidate out for an Under-rated Cricketer

Andrew McDonald.

IMO he should be in the Australian Test Team. Except i don't know where i'd fit him in. He isn't proven with the bat, but can do a reasonable job. When bowling, he can tie down one end, which creates pressure and results in wickets at the other end.

He's not good enough to play as a batsman, he's not good enough to play as a bowler, he's simply not good enough.

I'd have him in as a bowling all rounder. Maybe for Siddle, who hasnt been on fire with the ball lately.

[rod_rooster]

I'll throw a candidate out for an Under-rated Cricketer

Andrew McDonald.

IMO he should be in the Australian Test Team. Except i don't know where i'd fit him in. He isn't proven with the bat, but can do a reasonable job. When bowling, he can tie down one end, which creates pressure and results in wickets at the other end.

He's not good enough to play as a batsman, he's not good enough to play as a bowler, he's simply not good enough.

I'd have him in as a bowling all rounder. Maybe for Siddle, who hasnt been on fire with the ball lately.

Fair enough. I peronally would pick someone who is good enough to play Test cricket though and whilst McDonald is Australian and not a Bangladeshi he isn't good enough. Handy bits and pieces player he sure is but a Test cricketer??

Worse players have played for Australia though and whilst i don't think the guy should be playing at least we know that when he does play he'll give a good account of himself. Good honest no frills cricketer.

[Lightning McQueen]

I'll throw a candidate out for an Under-rated Cricketer

Andrew McDonald.

IMO he should be in the Australian Test Team. Except i don't know where i'd fit him in. He isn't proven with the bat, but can do a reasonable job. When bowling, he can tie down one end, which creates pressure and results in wickets at the other end.

He's not good enough to play as a batsman, he's not good enough to play as a bowler, he's simply not good enough.

I'd have him in as a bowling all rounder. Maybe for Siddle, who hasnt been on fire with the ball lately.

Fair enough. I peronally would pick someone who is good enough to play Test cricket though and whilst McDonald is Australian and not a Bangladeshi he isn't good enough. Handy bits and pieces player he sure is but a Test cricketer??

Worse players have played for Australia though and whilst i don't think the guy should be playing at least we know that when he does play he'll give a good account of himself. Good honest no frills cricketer.

I totally agree with you.

[Hondo]

Andrew MacDonald has a good test record and his role was as 5th bowler (now filled by Watto) and 6/7 batsman

A role he did well, moreso with his bowling with 9 wickets at 33 as well as playing the important role of keeping things tight. He also scored a 68.

To say he is not good enough for test cricket after they way he performed is unfair IMO. Guys who aren't good enough for test cricket get dropped after 1 game. In fact, they most times don't even get a game!