Marcus North' replacement for the third test

[Booney]

No worries stan. Anytime someone says 'out with so and so' I always think 'yeah that's all well and good but who do you bring in'. If Clarke isn't in the side I'd like to see the eleven that person selects because for me he is one of the first one picked.

Just a comment on North again. I didn't get the chance to watch any Cricket yesterday but I note that North has been caught again. I know Booney isn't going to like this but is our coach earning his dough with this current side?
Like our teams immediately after the retirements of Chappell, Marsh and Lillee we seem to be advanced in years but not in experience. I reckon the coach and the selectors have got a lot of thinking to do and that it might take a few years before we are a power again.

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

I have defended Neilsen regularly during The Ashes loss and since, but I have to agree the current group does appear to have some flaws. But as you have said the TSG in his attempt to convince us Clarke should not be in the team ,who comes in? I think it is a reflection on our Shield standard at the moment, not the batting but the bowling. National selectors IMO dont rate domestic bowling stocks therefore batting form is taken with a grain of salt.

[Rik E Boy]

It's not so much the selection Boon, but the apparent lack of improvement in the senior group. Tough gig I know but the coach's job is to spot the little things that can make a big difference...even to the top players.

regards,

REB

[stan]

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

At this stage of his career, he's not suited to the shorter form of the game. He's a run machine in the SS, which is what counts the most. He is a very good puller of the ball, in the SS he's shown the ability to consistently put away and control the stroke.

Perhaps it is the hook or the back foot defence rather than the pull shot that opposition sides are targetting. I saw him play a very nice pull shot the other night so you are OTM there.

regards,

REB

Too right, he can execute the shot well when HE wants to, not when he HAS to.

Well strike me pink but when im batting, I only played a shot when I wanted to. Just because a ball was short and at me didnt mean I have to pull it, for god sakes get under it.

[Lightning McQueen]

It's not so much the selection Boon, but the apparent lack of improvement in the senior group. Tough gig I know but the coach's job is to spot the little things that can make a big difference...even to the top players.

regards,

REB

We fell into the same trap that the Windies did back in the late 80's, just not as bad. We were quite content with winning with the core of players that we had and made miniMAL changes. All of a sudden, a few key players finished up and we didn't do the groundwork to be able to replace them.
Having MacGill as a back-up for Warney was fine while they were young enough, they were similar ages though and were always going to finish up around the same time, there was no contingency plan and we're still 3 or 4 years away from having another top-line leg-spinner.

[Lightning McQueen]

Too right, he can execute the shot well when HE wants to, not when he HAS to.

Well strike me pink but when im batting, I only played a shot when I wanted to. Just because a ball was short and at me didnt mean I have to pull it, for god sakes get under it.

I meant you don't really get the choice in the shorter game, you HAVE to play at it to keep the runs flowing, in SS you can leave as many as you like.....sorry.

[Booney]

It's not so much the selection Boon, but the apparent lack of improvement in the senior group. Tough gig I know but the coach's job is to spot the little things that can make a big difference...even to the top players.

regards,

REB

We fell into the same trap that the Windies did back in the late 80's, just not as bad. We were quite content with winning with the core of players that we had and made miniMAL changes. All of a sudden, a few key players finished up and we didn't do the groundwork to be able to replace them.
Having MacGill as a back-up for Warney was fine while they were young enough, they were similar ages though and were always going to finish up around the same time, there was no contingency plan and we're still 3 or 4 years away from having another top-line leg-spinner.

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

[Lightning McQueen]

It's not so much the selection Boon, but the apparent lack of improvement in the senior group. Tough gig I know but the coach's job is to spot the little things that can make a big difference...even to the top players.

regards,

REB

We fell into the same trap that the Windies did back in the late 80's, just not as bad. We were quite content with winning with the core of players that we had and made miniMAL changes. All of a sudden, a few key players finished up and we didn't do the groundwork to be able to replace them.
Having MacGill as a back-up for Warney was fine while they were young enough, they were similar ages though and were always going to finish up around the same time, there was no contingency plan and we're still 3 or 4 years away from having another top-line leg-spinner.

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

Just about every kid in Australia was trying to be a leggie 10 years ago, we should've been canvassing talent around the country then.

[Rik E Boy]

No, just about every kid in Australia wanted a Playstation ten years ago.

regards,

REB

[Adelaide Hawk]

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

Well said Booney, I've been concerned for some time that the Sheffield Shield is not the National Team feeder it once was. Too much emphasis on winning the Shield rather than fostering young talent.

[smithy]

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

Well said Booney, I've been concerned for some time that the Sheffield Shield is not the National Team feeder it once was. Too much emphasis on winning the Shield rather than fostering young talent.

You could also point to the time when the Players Association got a massive pay rise for your average regular shield cricketer, allowing them to play longer than they would've in the 80's and previous.
I'm not saying they don't deserve the money, just that the system might be a little more clogged up in allowing youngsters to develop.

[heater31]

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

Well said Booney, I've been concerned for some time that the Sheffield Shield is not the National Team feeder it once was. Too much emphasis on winning the Shield rather than fostering young talent.

You could also point to the time when the Players Association got a massive pay rise for your average regular shield cricketer, allowing them to play longer than they would've in the 80's and previous.
I'm not saying they don't deserve the money, just that the system might be a little more clogged up in allowing youngsters to develop.

Case 1 : Brad Hodge would have realised that he is a bad bloke much sooner and buggered off to nowhere 3 years ago.

[rod_rooster]

How many 'top line' leggies are playing around the world? Certainly none of the clibre of Warne or even Macgill, they just dont grow on trees where you can crop another one every 3 or 4 years.Once again my comment about the Shield comp. Many say it is the best domestic comp in the world and it probably is but is it churning out Test stars or just 'professional cricketers'?

Well said Booney, I've been concerned for some time that the Sheffield Shield is not the National Team feeder it once was. Too much emphasis on winning the Shield rather than fostering young talent.

You could also point to the time when the Players Association got a massive pay rise for your average regular shield cricketer, allowing them to play longer than they would've in the 80's and previous.
I'm not saying they don't deserve the money, just that the system might be a little more clogged up in allowing youngsters to develop.

Case 1 : Brad Hodge would have realised that he is a bad bloke much sooner and buggered off to nowhere 3 years ago.

Love it

[killer instinct]

north out, jason gillespie in.

[Dogwatcher]

[smac]

Dizzy is busy coaching the SA Outbacks, otherwise he would be available!