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Exciting times ahead

Postby smithy » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:01 pm

Have we got the best batch of under 23's coming through since the likes of Law, Bevan, Martyn, McGrath etc ?

Smith, Hazlewood, Henriques, Khawaja, George, Mitch Marsh and HUghes all look as if they'll play for AUS and do well.
Any others coming through that are under 23 you reckon are certs for a long career with higher honours ?

EDIT - Meant HUghes not Jaques
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby cripple » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:40 pm

Jaques is 29 so you can count him out of that group. as for the rest the potential is there but there doesn't seem to be any super star candidates maybe with the exception of Henriques.
Always hard to plot the career path of cricketers i think due to maturing later in their careers and also being able to play past the age most other sportsmen retire.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby ORDoubleBlues » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:14 pm

WE should count Hauritz out of this group as well. If he hadn't moved to NSW, he'd be playing 2nd 11 cricket somewhere. Starc, Hazelwood and Kulaja will be at the forefront simply 'cos they are from NSW.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby smithy » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:13 pm

ORD, I'm normally critical of how easy it is for some players that come from NSW to get an AUS call up.
Hauritz and Casson are great examples.
I don;t think anyone can disagree that Khawaja, Smith and Hazlewood will definitely represent AUS.
Hazlewoods spell against the VICS was top notch for such a young lad.
Mitch Marsh and George are probably classed as outsiders at this stage but they'll be around the mark IMO.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby Swervyn » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:43 pm

Khawaja will be a superstar... will play alot of test cricket
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby FD88 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:31 pm

Yeah for sure mate, some real quality coming through. The way Hazlewood and Starc are bowling now, you can only imagine how they're going to progress. Khawaja, wow, top notch. Watching him the other night his technique really stood out. No real flaws and he times the ball beautifully, not to mention he seems to have a pretty handy temperament.

Chuck in Hughes, M. Marsh, McDermott, this Pattinson kid, it's a pretty damn impressive group. The trouble right now is most of these guys are in the age group where we're not going to see them for another few years, and our current text XI is looking stale enough as it is. It might be a bit of a slog for the immediate future but our prospects for improvement over the long term look good without a doubt.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby jackpot jim » Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:19 pm

Geez you blokes get excited easisly. Fair dinkum, some young bloke grabs a bag of wickets or slogs a quickfire ton and yous label them as stars of the future. :roll:
Many years ago, 2 young blokes called Hookes and Lehmann peeled off ton after ton at sheild level and were considering superstars at the time yet only had limited time in the Aussie team.
Shaun Tait, Dan Cullen and Cullen Bailey are recent young guns given huge wraps a few years ago and are repidly fading into obscurity.
My point is that it aint all that it seems at times.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby locky801 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:03 pm

jackpot jim wrote:Geez you blokes get excited easisly. Fair dinkum, some young bloke grabs a bag of wickets or slogs a quickfire ton and yous label them as stars of the future. :roll:
Many years ago, 2 young blokes called Hookes and Lehmann peeled off ton after ton at sheild level and were considering superstars at the time yet only had limited time in the Aussie team.
Shaun Tait, Dan Cullen and Cullen Bailey are recent young guns given huge wraps a few years ago and are repidly fading into obscurity.
My point is that it aint all that it seems at times.



Yeah and if Lehmann and Hookes had played for NSW how much longer would have they played in the Australian side, a hell of a lot longer ;)
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby FD88 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:24 pm

Starc, Khawaja and Hazlewood will all go on to play test cricket, very confident in that. The others form a group that we should be optimistic about. It means stronger competition at domestic level and that can only be good for eventually improving our performances at test level.

As far as the here and now goes, we did have this legend among men known as the Hilf gunning it up for us but his knee has fallen off. Life's a bitch sometimes.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby smithy » Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:12 pm

Meanwhile, NSW legspinner Steven Smith, 20, will make his debut if Hauritz is ruled out, and Australia will assess the incumbent spinner the morning before the match starts.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:56 am

smithy wrote:Meanwhile, NSW legspinner Steven Smith, 20, will make his debut if Hauritz is ruled out, and Australia will assess the incumbent spinner the morning before the match starts.


And has the fantastic first class average of 75.00 with the ball. Good to see he has earnt his spot.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby am Bays » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:41 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
smithy wrote:Meanwhile, NSW legspinner Steven Smith, 20, will make his debut if Hauritz is ruled out, and Australia will assess the incumbent spinner the morning before the match starts.


And has the fantastic first class average of 75.00 with the ball. Good to see he has earnt his spot.


You mean like the 8 wickets at over 40 that Warne had taken in five Shield matches prior to his debut???
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:51 am

There ya go people. 11 first class games, 15 wickets at 75.00, on a spinners wicket. Yes let's start comparing him to Warney.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby am Bays » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:29 am

Yep guilty as charged, comparing Smith with Warne up until 10:59 am (EDST) January 2nd, 1992.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:34 am

I'll go out on a limb and say Smith won't be as good as Warney. ;)
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:36 am

am Bays wrote:Yep guilty as charged, comparing Smith with Warne up until 10:59 am (EDST) January 2nd, 1992.


You could compare him until the end of that test match.
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby mal » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:37 pm

STEVE SMITH
Good batsman especially o/d cricket
poor SS bowler [so far]
ok in o/d games when the fielders on the rope stop the boundarys

however
can improve his bowling most leggies do
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby carey » Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:30 pm

FD88 wrote:Yeah for sure mate, some real quality coming through. The way Hazlewood and Starc are bowling now, you can only imagine how they're going to progress. Khawaja, wow, top notch. Watching him the other night his technique really stood out. No real flaws and he times the ball beautifully, not to mention he seems to have a pretty handy temperament.

Chuck in Hughes, M. Marsh, McDermott, this Pattinson kid, it's a pretty damn impressive group. The trouble right now is most of these guys are in the age group where we're not going to see them for another few years, and our current text XI is looking stale enough as it is. It might be a bit of a slog for the immediate future but our prospects for improvement over the long term look good without a doubt.


id defaintly like to add 'the ferg' to that list cant wait to see the lad play a test match although he is mid 20's isnt he?
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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:44 pm

carey wrote:
FD88 wrote:Yeah for sure mate, some real quality coming through. The way Hazlewood and Starc are bowling now, you can only imagine how they're going to progress. Khawaja, wow, top notch. Watching him the other night his technique really stood out. No real flaws and he times the ball beautifully, not to mention he seems to have a pretty handy temperament.

Chuck in Hughes, M. Marsh, McDermott, this Pattinson kid, it's a pretty damn impressive group. The trouble right now is most of these guys are in the age group where we're not going to see them for another few years, and our current text XI is looking stale enough as it is. It might be a bit of a slog for the immediate future but our prospects for improvement over the long term look good without a doubt.


id defaintly like to add 'the ferg' to that list cant wait to see the lad play a test match although he is mid 20's isnt he?


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Re: Exciting times ahead

Postby acockfromwayback » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:48 pm

jackpot jim wrote:Shaun Tait, Dan Cullen and Cullen Bailey are recent young guns given huge wraps a few years ago and are repidly fading into obscurity.
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I get it...i've found there point of downfall, They are South Aussies.
If they played for NSW, Tait would be opening the batting with Kat as well as the bowling :D (with the possibility of being vice captain), Cullen and Bailey would be the new Warne/MacGill combination!!! :roll:
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