Adelaide Suburban Cricket Association 2009-10

[Real McCoy]

Has Paul Tam been at Nth Haven all year, or has just come back and is staying for the rest of the year.
Thought he was at Pt Adelaide.

May have just been a once off i think.

Yeah, i see what has happened now, no District Cricket and Nth Haven had a one dayer.

Yep i think that was the case.

Not correct, has been named again, whats the go there Nth Haven people ??

[JohnnyG]

Apparently stepping on your stumps is not out because you hit a 6 and the ball was dead. Just thought I'd let you know that. Obviously Kenilworth wrote the rule book.

G'day mate -i was the Kenilworth wicketkeeper in that game - just wondering which player you were?

I would like to throw in some points regarding that incident:

- as a background: the batsman (Neville Robertson) hit a 6 then walked back onto the stumps
- IMO the correct decision was given in that the umpires did not see what happened (as did most people not see) and therefore any benefit of the doubt went to the batsman
- unfortunately we dont have video replays hence accounts of the incident are limited to each sides (biased) recollection and interpretation of it.
- however, lets assume the umpires did see what happened, then in that case what is the correct interpretation of the law:
- as i understand it, the batsman is not out if he steps on his wicket after he has completed any action in receiving the ball.
- In this case, there was a distinct delay between playing the shot and then taking a couple of steps back and walking onto the stumps. He did not step on the stumps at the same time, nor immediately after completing the shot.
The delay was quite lengthy.... i was standing by the boundary line and like most others watched the ball sail over the line for 6 and then i turned back and saw the batsman taking steps back towards the stumps and then dislodging the bails. I think that that delay in itself supports the view that the batsman had well and truly completed any action in receiving the ball.

Anyway, you have raised an interesting umpiring question which needs clarification from someone who really knows the rules and their interpretation and anyone with their thoughts is welcome to give their opinions.

[BIGBOB]

WOS has far greater problems than the Murphy's. Captain Pelican Pat has some major off the ground issues which have creept into his judgement & are fracturing this club into two. The Pelican needs to sort his own shop before throwing barbs on internet forums. Cowards beware Bigbob is back & badder than ever!!!

[Gowser]

Not to be silly because i know Morphies boys are no saints, but a Keswick bloke commenting on on field discretions...... well?

Keswick are the most sporting and disciplined team in the competition my friend.

[scottiemc]

WOS has far greater problems than the Murphy's. Captain Pelican Pat has some major off the ground issues which have creept into his judgement & are fracturing this club into two. The Pelican needs to sort his own shop before throwing barbs on internet forums. Cowards beware Bigbob is back & badder than ever!!!

U clown, everybody in the club gets along very well with each other...things hav been tough so far with numbers for two teams being down, but we expect that will change in the new year.
Where do u get this crap from?

[Real McCoy]

Was at WOS training early. Looking good. Offering 2/1 on WOS. 3/1 on Ramblers. That's beers, not $. To be bought at MPCC bar.

I'll put 10 frothies on the Ramblers Moe.

[jb]

Not to be silly because i know Morphies boys are no saints, but a Keswick bloke commenting on on field discretions...... well?

Keswick are the most sporting and disciplined team in the competition my friend.

far from saints, i was once told by the bowler that he will take the bat off me and wrap it around my head... all i did was advise him to just turn around and bowl it because the idiot thought it was intimidating to stare me down after every ball. I would put a bet on ramblers to win but i dont want to drink them down there...

[Booney]

*Posters hat*

I am really enjoying the extra discussion being raised on here by having the diversity in clubs represented on here constantly being changed. The more the merrier



*Moderators hat*

The discussion in here is getting a little too "your club this your club that" and before things get out of hand ( like some other threads have ) I would like everyone to just be mindful this is one of the best threads in either the regional footy or cricket forums.

Lets keep it that way. BigBob, welcome, hopefully you follow site rules and aren't too controversial.


Booney

[Amateur Footy]

Apparently stepping on your stumps is not out because you hit a 6 and the ball was dead. Just thought I'd let you know that. Obviously Kenilworth wrote the rule book.

G'day mate -i was the Kenilworth wicketkeeper in that game - just wondering which player you were?

I would like to throw in some points regarding that incident:

- as a background: the batsman (Neville Robertson) hit a 6 then walked back onto the stumps
- IMO the correct decision was given in that the umpires did not see what happened (as did most people not see) and therefore any benefit of the doubt went to the batsman
- unfortunately we dont have video replays hence accounts of the incident are limited to each sides (biased) recollection and interpretation of it.
- however, lets assume the umpires did see what happened, then in that case what is the correct interpretation of the law:
- as i understand it, the batsman is not out if he steps on his wicket after he has completed any action in receiving the ball.
- In this case, there was a distinct delay between playing the shot and then taking a couple of steps back and walking onto the stumps. He did not step on the stumps at the same time, nor immediately after completing the shot.
The delay was quite lengthy.... i was standing by the boundary line and like most others watched the ball sail over the line for 6 and then i turned back and saw the batsman taking steps back towards the stumps and then dislodging the bails. I think that that delay in itself supports the view that the batsman had well and truly completed any action in receiving the ball.

Anyway, you have raised an interesting umpiring question which needs clarification from someone who really knows the rules and their interpretation and anyone with their thoughts is welcome to give their opinions.

Kenilworth didn't write the rule book, but atleast they know the rules:

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/la ... 61,AR.html

[Amateur Footy]

Just following on from the rules of cricket, if you are given out from an incorrect interpretation of the rules, is it ok to stand your ground and request a team mate to look up the MCC rules?? Once you have left the ground you are out.

If it's controversial it doesn't take long to look up the rules on a blackberry... I would have done it last year if I'd have thought of it. Not sure the umpires would look favourably on it tho.

[Gowser]

far from saints, i was once told by the bowler that he will take the bat off me and wrap it around my head... all i did was advise him to just turn around and bowl it because the idiot thought it was intimidating to stare me down after every ball. I would put a bet on ramblers to win but i dont want to drink them down there...

Last year I once told a bowler to turn around n keep sending down the pies, he hit me in the head with his next delivery, this made me very sad in the pants.

[Real McCoy]

far from saints, i was once told by the bowler that he will take the bat off me and wrap it around my head... all i did was advise him to just turn around and bowl it because the idiot thought it was intimidating to stare me down after every ball. I would put a bet on ramblers to win but i dont want to drink them down there...

Last year I once told a bowler to turn around n keep sending down the pies, he hit me in the head with his next delivery, this made me very sad in the pants.

Who was the bowler ???

[CoverKing]

Interesting to see if WOS and Ramblers get up this week!!

Looking forward to hearing how the pitch plays and if it varies a great deal from day 1 to day 2!
From my experiences there, the main oval (is that the ground your playing on?) is a cracking pitch! Pity we played them there on their hardwicket. Would have liked to play on the turf pitch!

Tight Lines, we have the new guy Alan Sutherland (not sure if thats correct) this week. Tony Fromene said that he is not overly internet savy and has not been able to do the umpires each week!

Having a quick look at section 2, looks like Belair and Warradale could possibly push for promotion come years end! If North Haven A grade come bottom, and the B grade still maintain the form and make the 4, surely they will go down this year one would think?

[Roseboy]

Having a quick look at section 2, looks like Belair and Warradale could possibly push for promotion come years end! If North Haven A grade come bottom, and the B grade still maintain the form and make the 4, surely they will go down this year one would think?

Not commenting on who if anyone should go down, but Belair would be a worthy addition to section 1 from what I've seen. Very young club whilst having had a few years of experience now.

[CoverKing]

Having a quick look at section 2, looks like Belair and Warradale could possibly push for promotion come years end! If North Haven A grade come bottom, and the B grade still maintain the form and make the 4, surely they will go down this year one would think?

Not commenting on who if anyone should go down, but Belair would be a worthy addition to section 1 from what I've seen. Very young club whilst having had a few years of experience now.

Yeah thats fair RB, altho not overly keen on another southern side coming in (too far too drive for most of us WYC boys)

Belair being Paul Tams old club, by the looks he could be back at North Haven, did he leave Belair to play sec 1 cricket or because he moved down that way? I wonder if he would make a Belair comeback at any stage!!

[caleb777]

Interesting to see if WOS and Ramblers get up this week!!

Looking forward to hearing how the pitch plays and if it varies a great deal from day 1 to day 2!
From my experiences there, the main oval (is that the ground your playing on?) is a cracking pitch! Pity we played them there on their hardwicket. Would have liked to play on the turf pitch!

Tight Lines, we have the new guy Alan Sutherland (not sure if thats correct) this week. Tony Fromene said that he is not overly internet savy and has not been able to do the umpires each week!

Having a quick look at section 2, looks like Belair and Warradale could possibly push for promotion come years end! If North Haven A grade come bottom, and the B grade still maintain the form and make the 4, surely they will go down this year one would think?

dont worry ck ramblers and wos will get up no worries, and from my experience the oval were playing on has very good drainage so dw about that, very green tho and a very short boundary on one side. the main oval has recently had a new square put in ck cause the old one was about 25 years old, and yes it was a cracking pitch, one of the best turf grounds in the state.

im all for more teams in the hills area, less driving time!! wooooo, good luck to all teams on the weekend

[caleb777]

WOS has far greater problems than the Murphy's. Captain Pelican Pat has some major off the ground issues which have creept into his judgement & are fracturing this club into two. The Pelican needs to sort his own shop before throwing barbs on internet forums. Cowards beware Bigbob is back & badder than ever!!!

what club are u from big bob??

[Moe]

*Posters hat*

I am really enjoying the extra discussion being raised on here by having the diversity in clubs represented on here constantly being changed. The more the merrier



*Moderators hat*

The discussion in here is getting a little too "your club this your club that" and before things get out of hand ( like some other threads have ) I would like everyone to just be mindful this is one of the best threads in either the regional footy or cricket forums.

Lets keep it that way. BigBob, welcome, hopefully you follow site rules and aren't too controversial.
Fair enough Booney. Just remember to logout this weekend jb me old buddy.

Booney

[Moe]

far from saints, i was once told by the bowler that he will take the bat off me and wrap it around my head... all i did was advise him to just turn around and bowl it because the idiot thought it was intimidating to stare me down after every ball. I would put a bet on ramblers to win but i dont want to drink them down there...

Last year I once told a bowler to turn around n keep sending down the pies, he hit me in the head with his next delivery, this made me very sad in the pants.

When you bat at 11 like i always have, you don't even backchat spinners.

[Dutchy]

Any of the WYC boys that post on here playing at home this weekend?