Is it over for Rann?

[southee]

Rann's blaming Channel 7, not her for saying it. I find that interesting.

Who would you rather sue, who has the cash ??

So he is sueing Channel 7 and Womans Day but not her......mmmm....interesting!!!

[silicone skyline]

Seven provided the medium, but if she's the one doing the lying, surely you'd be angry at her too??

You can't get angry at such a close personal friend...

Lol

[Gozu]

Seven provided the medium, but if she's the one doing the lying, surely you'd be angry at her too??

It wouldn't look good politically.

[redandblack]

No politician would deny the substance of the allegation if there was any chance of proof of it. If he's lying, he's gone.

How's this for a theory. They had a 'fantasy' flirtation relationship, full of text messages and suggestions, etc, but maybe apart from a bit of low level stuff, there was nothing overly physical in it. When it first becomes news, she says nothing and wants it to go away and tells her lawyers to say so, which they do.

Husband, though, is not happy. He writes to Rann for 4 years (!!!!!!!!) and then belts him. He now makes a lot of noise and wants a parliamentary enquiry. This won't get off the ground, as both sides are far too nervous to open that can of worms.

Meanwhile, wife wants hubby back. Hubby is out to get Rann and says 'only if you make Rann look bad'. Channel 7, New Idea, big dollars and lo and behold, she's no longer shy to tell her story. Suddenly, the fantasy becomes reality and the story becomes worth the money. Her mutual relationship now becomes her 'nightmare'.

Mike's been a bit of a naughty boy and it's embarrassing, but can't believe what he's hearing. His adviser's tell him to make a plea for sympathy, but he says it's all lies and I'm going to say so. The advisers tell him to think about it. If he's fibbing, that's it, it's all over, wouldn't it be best to admit a bit of naughtiness and ask for forgiveness. He tells them to get s.......d.

If she's telling the truth, he probably would have survived anyway, with a bit of collateral damage, so there's no reason to strongly deny it. If he's telling the truth, he's doing what I'd expect him to do.

One thing's for sure. I can't see Channel 7 getting any inside scoops for a long time from the SA Government.

[Gozu]

I never watched this rubbish last night (not really into irrelevant soap opera crap) but given Rann has publicly denied he ever had sex with this woman and that he's now going to take Channel 7 & some gossip mag to court you'd be inclined to believe him given the possibility of any sort of "evidence" turning up in future. He's effectively put his political career on the line here.

[silicone skyline]

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

[Jimmy_041]

I say this chick is lying, surely she'd need a lot more $$ than she's getting to let Mike perform the old slippendictome, I mean c'mon have a look at the bloke!!

So how does Fabio Foley pull them CP?

Maybe it it Rambo Rann's exotic accent

Cant wait for Postman Pat to bring out his pulls

This is very VB - Blokes punching above their weight.....

[JK]

Who knows Jimmy, Im sure his expense account would have some hefty bar tabs thats for sure.

On the whole Rann saga, I'd really be interested to know just how much it really matters?

I mean, I don't like the bloke (not personally because I've never met him), but I couldn't care less if he's had a fillet of fish on the side, it's really none of my business ... How he performs in his role and the manner in which he handles issues of interest to the state is how I'll form my judgement if him or any other leader.

Is it really that big a deal??

[silicone skyline]

I say this chick is lying, surely she'd need a lot more $$ than she's getting to let Mike perform the old slippendictome, I mean c'mon have a look at the bloke!!

So how does Fabio Foley pull them CP?

Maybe it it Rambo Rann's exotic accent

Cant wait for Postman Pat to bring out his pulls

This is very VB - Blokes punching above their weight.....

The Footy Banner Makrers. No spell check when it comes to crepe paper and scissors.

[Psyber]

It is an interesting problem...
False accusations do occur - I was on the end of one about 20 years ago and was exonerated - without giving in to the hints that cash would make it go away.
On the other hand a Labor colleague of his did say to me recently, "You could describe him as an 'active member'...."

[Gozu]

On the other hand a Labor colleague of his did say to me recently, "You could describe him as an 'active member'...."

Well that's that then, case closed.

[Psyber]

On the other hand a Labor colleague of his did say to me recently, "You could describe him as an 'active member'...."

Well that's that then, case closed.

No, I wouldn't say that Gozu, though my informant was a former Minister in an SA Labor government.
After all - it could be a faction issue between them - or perhaps not?...
[Labor are always united are they not, unlike the disagreements among the Libs you love to highlight?]

[A Mum]

Well I know one thing for sure !
There has never been this much interest in the Political forum before...lol.

[Jimmy_041]

I keep coming back to Rann saying that MHS would not be a good Premier because of his poor lack of judgement

What's this? Even if he didn't bonk her (and that is a possibility) the enormous no of telephone contacts create enough smoke to question whether there is fire to the story.

Have to laugh at A Mum's comment - He is referred to as "Mike Rann" in nearly every press release. We were out at dinner one night, and he walks in with Sasha.

Jimmy Jnr: "Introducing Mike Rann........"

[Gozu]

No, I wouldn't say that Gozu, though my informant was a former Minister in an SA Labor government.
After all - it could be a faction issue between them - or perhaps not?...
[Labor are always united are they not, unlike the disagreements among the Libs you love to highlight?]

Not interested in your shares/properties/cars/lunches with politicians. FYI No, Labor are not always united on everything but at least admit to having factions and have the nous to put processes in place to deal with disagreements unlike your mob who stoically refuse to admit to having factions and then have to endure the public humiliation that goes with that (Minchin trying to destroy his own leader etc).

[lesthemechanic]

Now that he's denied it: if he is lying he has just committed political suicide.

Nor really, unless she has some evidence , which is probably why he has been told to deny it. They probably waited to see how the public reacted to the woman, then once they found quite a bit of the public are not sympathising with her, deny, deny, deny!!! Smart really

Would not think she or her advisors would have gone down this path without something pretty damn solid..
That coupled up with the way 7 are drip feeding the whole thing might just suggest the big bang (no pun intented) is yet to come ??

Just like they did with the Pauline Hanson nude photos LOL. Have they learnt their lesson ??? This will be interesting. For what it is worth, It is entirely possible that liason occurred, but there is no proof. So he stands to gain a bit here. Channel 7 etc, if they have no solid proof ( & SMS / Phone records do not prove anything apart from the fact that you telephoned/messaged someone ) are possibly going to have egg on there faces. What solid proof can you have in a case like this apart from a video, a witness......or a stained blue dress.

[fish]

The odds for the state election winner have changed a little bit:
LABOR 1.16 (up from 1.14 on Saturday)
LIBERAL 4.75 (down from 5.10 on Saturday)

[JK]

No, I wouldn't say that Gozu, though my informant was a former Minister in an SA Labor government.
After all - it could be a faction issue between them - or perhaps not?...
[Labor are always united are they not, unlike the disagreements among the Libs you love to highlight?]

Not interested in your shares/properties/cars/lunches with politicians. FYI No, Labor are not always united on everything but at least admit to having factions and have the nous to put processes in place to deal with disagreements unlike your mob who stoically refuse to admit to having factions and then have to endure the public humiliation that goes with that (Minchin trying to destroy his own leader etc).

FFS you treat your preferred party like a footy team you're supporting with one eye .. All parties lie, cheat and make mistakes but you only ever praise your mob and wedge home the dagger to their opposition.

Great to have an alignment, many or most people probably do, but the way you carry on you would think Labor are mistakeless Saints and the Libs are the scum of the earth

[topsywaldron]

Never liked Rann and he's spent years making political mileage out of vilifying those before the courts. It's karma of the highest order that he's getting the same sort of trial by media treatment he's dished out for years and quite obviously he doesn't like it up him one little bit.

A couple of interesting points in all of this though. Was Foley's 'emotional turmoil' piece in the paper a few weeks back an attempt to humanise him before he takes over as Permier? How did Chantelois get her job at Parliament House? Why is Rann (allegedly) super keen for the assault case not to proceed?

I suppose the biggie is how someone without a seemingly decent idea in their head, that is other than an eternal tapeloop saying 'get elected, get elected', manages to fool so many people for so long?

The only thing that could amuse me more was if someone could prove Mick Atkinson's freaking braces were made by kiddie slave labour in Thailand.

Rant over.

[Hondo]

I wondered today after hearing some speculation on the radio about whether this is a pre-planned step by step attempted trap orchestrated by the ex-husband.

If there's a gentleman's agreement with the media and the opposition that the Politicians' personal lives are normally off limits (as was stated on radio) then ex-hubby grows frustrated that no-one seems to care about this issue so he makes it public via a bizarre "attack" at the wine centre after which the premier is forced to answer questions about who the attacker was, etc.

Fast forward to a $200k media deal for his ex wife and then a prepared statement issued today by the ex-hubby demanding a parliamentary inquiry.

Sounds possibly like a set up along the lines of Red&Black's post. Just my speculation.

The fact that Rann has come out so strongly today says to me that either it never happened or he is sure she has no proof. It's such political suicide if he's lying that I lean towards not believing her story.