Is it over for Rann?

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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby fish » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:14 pm

Gozu wrote:
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Gozu wrote:Only rusted on Liberal voters give a s***t about this story


I think you would find a few Labour voters will be now ..."giving a s**t" Gozu...... :D


A few sure, but it's the staunch Liberal voters desperately trying to cling to this. Surely you don't think Labor aren't going to romp it in again next election?

Labor should still romp it in but will Rannbo be their leader?
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby BlueRose » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:31 pm

Rann or Foley? At least Foley doesn't bang married chicks.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby fish » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:41 pm

Just so we can track any effect this issue might have on the election the current odds for the winner of the next SA state election are:

LABOR 1.14
LIBERAL 5.10

The odds have been similar to this for at least the last year or even two.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Hondo » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:49 pm

Even though she will have made a tidy sum from selling her story, unfortunately the political spin machine will get stuck into her and some mud will stick. I hope she has good people around her for advice and support.

If it's a he said v she said then the one who sold out to 60 minutes will come off second best.

Still, it will be huge TV ratings tomorrow night! Everyone loves famous people's dirty laundry.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:13 pm

BlueRose wrote:Rann or Foley? At least Foley doesn't bang married chicks.


I reckon Rann, Foley and Atkinson are all now a political liability and they may win the next election but it wont be the landslide it could have been. What will be interesting is how long Rann takes to realise that the Labor Party is bigger than him. He has spent the past decade building up an image and now probably believes the spin himself. If he thinks nobody cares, he's as bigger fool as those saying it

What was it Rann said about MHS and the e-mail affair - how can you trust a man to run a State when he has such a poor sense of judgement. Bingo Mike - is that a bite mark on your ass?

I expect to see Jay Wetherall as the next Premier. This can only be a good move for SA
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Sojourner » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:16 pm

Most likely Rann will resign himself, yet will get his propaganda machine rolling first to give himself an exit from politics in the best possible way and that its all the fault of someone else etc etc.

Labor will still win the election next time around simply because Liberals are to far behind to make up enough seats to get a win. Labor might lose some seats of course yet will have enough to stay in government until the Liberals get their act together.

I am tipping some in the Labor camp are a little relieved that the Democrats are no more, because in an upcoming election like this, they may well have picked up the protest vote from people who dislike both groups, which most likely will now be split between the Greens and Family First based on left or right leaning voters.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby southee » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:27 pm

I think we may find Rann and Sash off to Italy in no time....

They will win this election but not as much as they think they will......after the election I reckon Rann will be gone. I think the people of SA are waking up a bit to the spin :-@
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby mick » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:25 am

The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life? A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Psyber » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:34 am

mick wrote:The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life?
A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.
I think it does, without a doubt.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby overloaded » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:I expect to see Jay Wetherall as the next Premier. This can only be a good move for SA

I agree Jimmy, from what I have heard Conlon and Foley may have a few skeletons in the closet as well...
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby dedja » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:36 am

LOL, Humphrey B. Bear (even with his current problems) could win the next election for the government, so I don't think there's any concern for Labor at the moment.

Pity there's no effective opposition (at the State or Federal level) because good government and democracy depends on it.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby dedja » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:39 am

Psyber wrote:
mick wrote:The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life?
A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.
I think it does, without a doubt.
You either have integrity or you don't and it can't be turned on and off like a light.


Why is there a discussion about integrity in the politics forum? ... funny place to have it I would have thought.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:54 am

dedja wrote:LOL, Humphrey B. Bear (even with his current problems) could win the next election for the government, so I don't think there's any concern for Labor at the moment.

Pity there's no effective opposition (at the State or Federal level) because good government and democracy depends on it.


Ah, but what Labor were trying to do was win even more of the Liberal seats to help them keep government even longer. Dont think they were just trying to win the next election - they were trying to reduce the Liberals down to the bare minimum of seats so it would take them 3-4 elections to win back government.

They are the NSW Labor Party reincarnated and unless the SA Liberal Party gets its shit together, we will go down the same path as NSW.

BTW, there is one prominent Liberal MP, with an oversupply of testosterone, who should take note of what happens when "you get caught".
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby mick » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:31 pm

dedja wrote:
Psyber wrote:
mick wrote:The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life?
A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.
I think it does, without a doubt.
You either have integrity or you don't and it can't be turned on and off like a light.


Why is there a discussion about integrity in the politics forum? ... funny place to have it I would have thought.


Pay that one! :lol:
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby dedja » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:40 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
dedja wrote:LOL, Humphrey B. Bear (even with his current problems) could win the next election for the government, so I don't think there's any concern for Labor at the moment.

Pity there's no effective opposition (at the State or Federal level) because good government and democracy depends on it.


Ah, but what Labor were trying to do was win even more of the Liberal seats to help them keep government even longer. Dont think they were just trying to win the next election - they were trying to reduce the Liberals down to the bare minimum of seats so it would take them 3-4 elections to win back government.

They are the NSW Labor Party reincarnated and unless the SA Liberal Party gets its s***t together, we will go down the same path as NSW.

BTW, there is one prominent Liberal MP, with an oversupply of testosterone, who should take note of what happens when "you get caught".


It won't happen though ... the best result (if we concede the government will be returned) is that they are given a hell of a fright and are returned with a much reduced majority. Then it's game on for the following election.

That's what democracy should be about.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Psyber » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:42 pm

mick wrote:
dedja wrote:
Psyber wrote:
mick wrote:The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life?
A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.
I think it does, without a doubt.
You either have integrity or you don't and it can't be turned on and off like a light.
Why is there a discussion about integrity in the politics forum? ... funny place to have it I would have thought.
Pay that one! :lol:
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby dedja » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:49 pm

overloaded wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:I expect to see Jay Wetherall as the next Premier. This can only be a good move for SA

I agree Jimmy, from what I have heard Conlon and Foley may have a few skeletons in the closet as well...


I'd agree that Jay Weatherill will be the next Labor leader, whether that translates to being Premier we shall see.

So who will be the next Liberal leader after Isobel Redmond, because there is absolutely no way she'll ever be Premier.
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Gozu » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:20 pm

dedja wrote:I'd agree that Jay Weatherill will be the next Labor leader, whether that translates to being Premier we shall see.

So who will be the next Liberal leader after Isobel Redmond, because there is absolutely no way she'll ever be Premier.


BS, how many Labor politicians are willing to be tasered huh? Yeah thats right ;)

The only thing that could give the useless Libs a shot come March, piss Rann off and elevate General Atkinson!
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:53 pm

mick wrote:The question is, does a lack of integrity in a person's personal life translate to a lack of integrity in professional life? A little bird has told me that there are issues tied up in this beyond bonking the barmaid.


It especially does when you refer to the opposition as sleazy and accuse of playing gutter politics. If you put yourself on a pedestal of the high moral ground, you'd better be squeaky clean because its a lot further to fall down

How about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23362376-2,00.html
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Re: Is it over for Rann?

Postby Gozu » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:14 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:It especially does when you refer to the opposition as sleazy and accuse of playing gutter politics. If you put yourself on a pedestal of the high moral ground, you'd better be squeaky clean because its a lot further to fall down

How about this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23362376-2,00.html


What about this guy, Governor of South Carolina:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/25/run ... k-sanford/
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