SA v Vic - Pura Cup.

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SA chase not looking good....

SA set 350 to win by Victoria

SA 2/16 (9 overs)

Cosgrove 1*
Borgas 6*

Denton 2/5

SA have roughly 78 overs to score 333 @ 4.32! It is achievable but highly unlikely.

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BTW Bailey took two excellent wickets this morning - so look for Warne cleaning up SA.

Hopefully DS Lehmann has something to say about that!!

[MightyEagles]

5/76 after 44.3 overs.
Denton 3/24
Looks like a loss, but Boof is in anything could happen.

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Actually Boof is gone! Mini Boof is in though...

SA 5/86

Cosgrove 29* 146 balls, 158 minutes
Manou 2*

Tough to even save the match from here, although only need to survive one and a bit sessions and Cosgrove is doing a tremendous job of it right now

[mal]

The Jellybacks are back.

[MightyEagles]

Actually Boof is gone! Mini Boof is in though...

SA 5/86

Cosgrove 29* 146 balls, 158 minutes
Manou 2*

Tough to even save the match from here, although only need to survive one and a bit sessions and Cosgrove is doing a tremendous job of it right now

Misread the scorecard.

[ca]

SA 6/94

I know I sounds like a brocken record but as good a keeper as he is, the selectors need to talk to Graham Manou about his batting and lay it on the line to him. He is nothing short of a dissapointment with the bat and as a so called leader of the team (somehow) needs to stand up more often than he does at number 7.

Sure he had a better year last year but it was a case of if you play enough innings eventually you will make enough runs. I am not talking about his keeping but as a number 7 batsman and a experienced players he has to do better.

[MightyEagles]

I know what your going on about, he also has to let me go out with Tamsin Lewis.

[ca]

I know what your going on about, he also has to let me go out with Tamsin Lewis.

That is another thing, the guy is everywhere at the moment, at every function going around. Which is fine if you are performing but if you are continually underperforming in an aspect of your game if might be time to just tone down a bit or at least bit a bit less visable. Unfortunatly he has a lot of pull with the SACA and is in with the right people, god they even gave him the captaincy when he was lucky to even be in the team.

[noone]

was thinking the same thing today, cant expect a keeper to be a gilly, but he does need to score more than 5 runs a game.

[mal]

Lost with about 8 balls to go.
Lehmann, Gillespie and Rofe might have been stiff to be given out.
Lehmann was unofficially not dismissed in this game.
Very disapointing to be completely outclassed by an injury struck
and very ordindary Victorian team.
Only Cosi + Boof can escape the criticism, Bailey went ok.

And New REB Wales beat Queensland just to top it off.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I've had enough of the Redbacks' love affair with Graham Manou. How many more times does this boob have to prove that he is simply not good enough? We finally found a keeper (Deitz) who can make runs at No.7, and the moment Krusty the Clown is available we rush him back into the team as if he was Adam Gilchrist. And then the selectors have to find a place for Deitz, so they throw him up to open, a position he has performed with mediocrity over the past few seasons,

Added to this, I understand what Lehmann is trying to achieve by batting himself at 6, but the fact remains he is the best batsman in the team, and for us to be successful he needs to bat higher in the order. He could start by at least swapping spots with Ferguson who is struggling at 5. We also need Blewett back in the team as a third seamer if we play Cullen and Bailey, which we should, leaving only the 2 peacemen Tait and Gillespie.

The Redbacks continue to disappoint, so I'm not getting my hopes up again until they finally axe Manou for good, and show they are fair dinkum.

[am Bays]

And to think some people on this site last year thought Manou is a chance for higher honours once Gilchrist hangs up the gloves.....

[mal]

And to think some people on this site last year thought Manou is a chance for higher honours once Gilchrist hangs up the gloves.....

Good hands.
Very hit or miss which is a problem as most keepers are very consistent.
He is just as likely to smash a brilliant ton against NSW this week.
But you guys are right, he should be at his peak now, not struggling.

Luke Ronchi is the star keeper these days, awesome batsmen.

Best keepers

1 GILCHRIST
2 HADDIN
3 RONCHI
4 HARTLEY
5 MANOU
6 CROSTWAITE
7 CLINGLEFFER
8 DIETZ

[sydney-dog]

Mal

Lehmann was unofficially not dismissed in this game. ?????

Agree
It is time to leave "Manou"
Boof must bat at 5

In addition
Too many 2nd inning collapses in the past couple of years, is it mental application or a technique issue ????

In regards to Dizzy, I think we need to start looking at Dizzy bowling first change, batsmen seem happy to sweat of dizzy all day

[Rik E Boy]

And to think some people on this site last year thought Manou is a chance for higher honours once Gilchrist hangs up the gloves.....

Good hands.
Very hit or miss which is a problem as most keepers are very consistent.
He is just as likely to smash a brilliant ton against NSW this week.
But you guys are right, he should be at his peak now, not struggling.

Luke Ronchi is the star keeper these days, awesome batsmen.

Best keepers

1 GILCHRIST
2 HADDIN
3 RONCHI
4 HARTLEY
5 MANOU
6 CROSTWAITE
7 CLINGLEFFER
8 DIETZ

*ahem* Tim PAINE. Opening bat wicketkeeper. He'll go straight past Ronchi and Hartley.

regards,

REB

[am Bays]

Good hands.
Very hit or miss which is a problem as most keepers are very consistent.
He is just as likely to smash a brilliant ton against NSW this week.
But you guys are right, he should be at his peak now, not struggling.

Luke Ronchi is the star keeper these days, awesome batsmen.

Best keepers

1 GILCHRIST
2 HADDIN
3 RONCHI
4 HARTLEY
5 MANOU
6 CROSTWAITE
7 CLINGLEFFER
8 DIETZ

*ahem* Tim PAINE. Opening bat wicketkeeper. He'll go straight past Ronchi and Hartley.

regards,

REB

Whilst Clingleffer is keeping for Tasmania???

[Aerie]

I've had enough of the Redbacks' love affair with Graham Manou. How many more times does this boob have to prove that he is simply not good enough? We finally found a keeper (Deitz) who can make runs at No.7, and the moment Krusty the Clown is available we rush him back into the team as if he was Adam Gilchrist. And then the selectors have to find a place for Deitz, so they throw him up to open, a position he has performed with mediocrity over the past few seasons,

Added to this, I understand what Lehmann is trying to achieve by batting himself at 6, but the fact remains he is the best batsman in the team, and for us to be successful he needs to bat higher in the order. He could start by at least swapping spots with Ferguson who is struggling at 5. We also need Blewett back in the team as a third seamer if we play Cullen and Bailey, which we should, leaving only the 2 peacemen Tait and Gillespie.

The Redbacks continue to disappoint, so I'm not getting my hopes up again until they finally axe Manou for good, and show they are fair dinkum.

Fair points. Some of the selections by the SACA have not worked. Blewett has been phased out of the Shield side for an equally out of form and equally as old Elliott. It seems Elliott has been given the higher standing, even though Blewett is the loyal South Australian and they have equally as impressive Test and First Class records. Harris has been promising as an opener, yet they drop him after making a half century. Deitz was excellent at number 7, so unless his keeping is terrible, why does Manou get automatic selection in the side at his expense (and in turn, Harris)?

All of this piles on to last year's decision to keep Cosgrove out of the shield side for most of the games before Christmas even though he was in pristine form. This cost SA an outright win last year.

I guess the criticism of this game is because, once again, Lehmann has been the only player to stand up.

My side in batting order for the next game would be:

Elliott - must be given one more chance to make a big score and needs to make one
Harris - give him a chance, he's shown promise and shouldn't have been dropped for this game
Blewett - he's shown form at Kensington, he deserves inclusion
Cosgrove - let him blossom with experience around him
Lehmann - one place higher up the order, him and Cosgrove can set up a game on the first day
Borgas - has been more impressive than Ferguson, but not a state number 3 yet
Deitz - his hundred gets him the keeping spot ahead of Manou who needs to step down for the better player at the moment
Cleary - a good player and adds depth to a suspect batting line up
Gillespie - class keeps his spot
Bailey - has secured his spot in the team
Tait - SA's only strike bowler is a must

Those on the outer:

Cullen - unless an absolute green top, I'd have him and Bailey in the same team at the expense of Cleary and he's an automatic inclusion as soon as he gets back from Australian duties.
Rofe - unlucky to not be in the 11, but would be the first pace bowler picked if a spot becomes available
Ferguson - just needs to keep making runs, but especially needs to score hundreds instead of 40's and 50's
Manou - gave up his spot to Deitz in the first shield game and shouldn't have got it back. Two failures and he should be back in the queue.
Adcock - it's sad Grade cricket hasn't produced any player better than Adcock who has been SA's 8th best batsman forever.

[mal]

And to think some people on this site last year thought Manou is a chance for higher honours once Gilchrist hangs up the gloves.....

Good hands.
Very hit or miss which is a problem as most keepers are very consistent.
He is just as likely to smash a brilliant ton against NSW this week.
But you guys are right, he should be at his peak now, not struggling.

Luke Ronchi is the star keeper these days, awesome batsmen.

Best keepers

1 GILCHRIST
2 HADDIN
3 RONCHI
4 HARTLEY
5 MANOU
6 CROSTWAITE
7 CLINGLEFFER
8 DIETZ

*ahem* Tim PAINE. Opening bat wicketkeeper. He'll go straight past Ronchi and Hartley.

regards,

REB

I was going to make him number 2 after Haddin but he does not keep in the 4 day games ?
He made 200+ as an opener, not keeping ? Hes making heeps of runs, must be good.
They normally play Clingleffer in the longer games.
Paine keeps in the one dayers.

S/DOG Boof 'unofficially' not dismissed.
Was not out first dig and was given out 2nd dig when clearly not out[according to the news tonight]

[sydney-dog]

Mal

mate I think we all have been unofficially not dismissed before but unfortunately the score cards don't reflect that

Aerie

I would not be calling for Bluey's inclusion just yet, he has lived of his two years of selection credits, he needs to earb his spot back with a string of performances