Can anyone end the Bulldogs dominance ?

[johntheclaret]

There's a degree of sour grapes in those posts above I think. Port Adelaide had the advantage of success breeding success and being able to recruit decent players on that basis... plus they had the mental edge on other teams also...

Its the same now, but with Centrals. So I think that's a bit unfair on the Bulldogs...

That said, I agree we shouldn't compare post-1991 with pre-1991, as the competitions were completely different, one was the be all and end all of the state where the best players stayed and played. That's just not the case now...

I don't think people are anymore miffed at Centrals now than they were after listening to Sturt's club anthem five years in a row or Port Adelaide's six years in a row in past decades... surely everyone hated those teams back then.

For all we know we're only a few years away from South winning 6 in a row.

Sour grapes.....not at all. I'm a north fan who has been to Australai once in 30 years so I don't think sour grapes has anyting to do with it. personally I was trying to be objective. In fact in my own personal list of teams I dislike, Centrals wouldn't come in the top 3

I think if anything, csbowes, your recent over mangnanamous well wishing posts about Centrals is you over compensating for todays GF loss.

[hawkseye]

NO!

[csbowes]

I think if anything, csbowes, your recent over mangnanamous well wishing posts about Centrals is you over compensating for todays GF loss.

You missed the bit where I said we're up 13-8 on flags then... that wasn't magnanimous!

... oh trust me, sick to death of them!

[MagareyLegend]

No

[purch]

There's a degree of sour grapes in those posts above I think.

No, not at all. Just the simple fact that Central's 8/10 cannot be compared; that their club finances are built on different (albeit very solid) foundations than those of past days, and that a club played in the grand final toady without those contemporary foundations.

The thing I repect about Centrals is that they wont employ anyone as a player if that person does not hold the values of the club BEFORE they arrive. This is the key. I know that Sturt also been employing this rule with regard to new recruits in recent times, and I think that is a BIG reason why we were playing today

For all we know we're only a few years away from South winning 6 in a row.

Ummmmm....how many years?

[hawkseye]

No

What he said!

[csbowes]

There's a degree of sour grapes in those posts above I think.

No, not at all. Just the simple fact that Central's 8/10 cannot be compared; that their club finances are built on different (albeit very solid) foundations than those of past days, and that a club played in the grand final toady without those contemporary foundations.

The thing I repect about Centrals is that they wont employ anyone as a player if that person does not hold the values of the club BEFORE they arrive. This is the key. I know that Sturt also been employing this rule with regard to new recruits in recent times, and I think that is a BIG reason why we were playing today

For all we know we're only a few years away from South winning 6 in a row.

Ummmmm....how many years?

Well... at least 6... you need that many to get 6 in a row I reckon... hey, it could happen!

[doggieinnz]

From afar, the way I see it is that before the AFL f$%ked up the SANFL, Centrals were a no nothing side and had those changes not taken place, Port Adelaide would probably still be the dominent side in the league.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

Centrals are dominant only because Port are f%&ked. No doubt, in todays game, Centrals have got the the formula spot on and you have to acknowledge that but there are some other factors that just make thier domination easier. Firstly, sucess breeds success, and it must be easier for Centrals to persude players to join thier ranks than any other other club in the league. Afterall who wouldn't want to play for such a sucessful club.

Secondly, Centrals have a psychological edge over all of thier rivals come finals time. I wouldn't have said Centrals league form this year was that dominant, they were pumped a few times and finished way off Glenelg. But it's almost like the other sides expect to lose to Centrals in the finals and both Sturt and Glenelg had plenty of chances to kill off the dogs this year.

Centrals dominance will continue, imo, until the other top sides in the league can switch off that fear factor mentality and just go out and take the dogs on.

I agree JTC. The one point that you didn't mention is that the current CDFC has been built on POKIES, taking $$ from many who can't afford it, which is most unlike Port of the 50's and Sturt of the 60's. IMO, and despite their run of GFs/Premierships, it will be very hard to reconcile thier current run with the pre-cows success of other clubs.

In fact, given the financial situation of my club in recent times I'm pretty damn proud of where we've got this season (probably a greater achievement than the CDFC)

[SnappyTom]

WINNING MARGINS
2009 Central 13.14 (92) Sturt 7.12 (54) 38 points 35,647
2008 Central 17.10 (112) Glenelg 11.10 (76) 36 points 34,128
2007 Central 16.11 (107) North 5.12 (42) 65 points 30,478
2006 Eagles 17.19 (121) Central 7.3.(45) 76 points 25,130
2005 Central 15.14.(104) Eagles 11.10 (76) 28 points 28,637
2004 Central 23.15 (153) Eagles 4.4 (28) 125 points 24,207
2003 Central 17.9 (111) West 11.11 (77) 34 points 28,199
2002 Sturt 13.14 (92) Central 6.9 (45) 47 points 35,187
2001 Central 10.11 (71) Eagles 4.8 (32) 39 points 26,378
2000 Central 8.13 (61) Eagles 5.9 (39) 22 points

....aaah, that's what I call sweet revenge!

ST...

[purch]

WINNING MARGINS
2009 Central 13.14 (92) Sturt 7.12 (54) 38 points 35,647
2008 Central 17.10 (112) Glenelg 11.10 (76) 36 points 34,128
2007 Central 16.11 (107) North 5.12 (42) 65 points 30,478
2006 Eagles 17.19 (121) Central 7.3.(45) 76 points 25,130
2005 Central 15.14.(104) Eagles 11.10 (76) 28 points 28,637
2004 Central 23.15 (153) Eagles 4.4 (28) 125 points 24,207
2003 Central 17.9 (111) West 11.11 (77) 34 points 28,199
2002 Sturt 13.14 (92) Central 6.9 (45) 47 points 35,187
2001 Central 10.11 (71) Eagles 4.8 (32) 39 points 26,378
2000 Central 8.13 (61) Eagles 5.9 (39) 22 points

....aaah, that's what I call sweet revenge!

ST...

Ahhhh...so we're still 9 points up on you lot

I noticed Central on 13.14 with a few mins to go...and had a feeling they wouldn't score again..

[CENTURION]

yeah, We're successful because of pokies. The Players love them, knowing that, after the game, They can go back to the club, sit back with one leg up next to Their favourite treasure chest, pint in 1 hand, fag in the other......bliss......It has nothing to do with smart recruiting, such as Danny Hulm, The Gowans, Goodrem, Hayes, Hopwood, Hay, Stevens, and locally, well, there just isn't enough room or time!! We won Our 1st flag before Our pokie barn was even built! The extension was built because of bingo & fundraising, not pokies. We got a loan to build the new club, not because of pokies, players don't come to Our club because of pokies. Kyle Jenner hit the nail on the head last night, it's a fantastic club, almost like playing back at Cleve, family orientated & everyone has respect for each other.

[MatteeG]

yeah, We're successful because of pokies. The Players love them, knowing that, after the game, They can go back to the club, sit back with one leg up next to Their favourite treasure chest, pint in 1 hand, fag in the other......bliss......It has nothing to do with smart recruiting, such as Danny Hulm, The Gowans, Goodrem, Hayes, Hopwood, Hay, Stevens, and locally, well, there just isn't enough room or time!! We won Our 1st flag before Our pokie barn was even built! The extension was built because of bingo & fundraising, not pokies. We got a loan to build the new club, not because of pokies, players don't come to Our club because of pokies. Kyle Jenner hit the nail on the head last night, it's a fantastic club, almost like playing back at Cleve, family orientated & everyone has respect for each other.

Have to agree Centurion. Pokies have nothing to do with it. Success breeds success.

Purch the difference in the 50s-60s was that the power clubs then had wealthy financial 'backers' to get the best of the best...paper bags marked '$' were rampant. Is this what all 'good' clubs are based on?

[doggies4eva]

After 10 straight Grand Final appearances and 8 Premierships it would be fair to say that most neutral supporters of the SANFL are sick of the Bulldogs dominance over the rest of the competition but the question remains is can anyone stop the Bulldogs reign as the premier team. Mattew Slade has retired, surely the Gowans twins won't be far behind him possibly Daniel Schel as well. Will this create an opening for another team to create a dynasty unto itself.

Can we just celebrate our win for a while before we start reading about our impending demise? Usually that starts about April or May when we lose a game or two and haven't got our act together yet. But the day after our 3rd flag in a row? Give us a break

[sjt]

yeah, We're successful because of pokies. The Players love them, knowing that, after the game, They can go back to the club, sit back with one leg up next to Their favourite treasure chest, pint in 1 hand, fag in the other......bliss......It has nothing to do with smart recruiting, such as Danny Hulm, The Gowans, Goodrem, Hayes, Hopwood, Hay, Stevens, and locally, well, there just isn't enough room or time!! We won Our 1st flag before Our pokie barn was even built! The extension was built because of bingo & fundraising, not pokies. We got a loan to build the new club, not because of pokies, players don't come to Our club because of pokies. Kyle Jenner hit the nail on the head last night, it's a fantastic club, almost like playing back at Cleve, family orientated & everyone has respect for each other.

Come on Centurion don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
All that money allowed us to get Lee Spurr to play this year out of the players that didn't play last year.

[am Bays]

After 10 straight Grand Final appearances and 8 Premierships it would be fair to say that most neutral supporters of the SANFL are sick of the Bulldogs dominance over the rest of the competition but the question remains is can anyone stop the Bulldogs reign as the premier team. Mattew Slade has retired, surely the Gowans twins won't be far behind him possibly Daniel Schel as well. Will this create an opening for another team to create a dynasty unto itself.

Can we just celebrate our win for a while before we start reading about our impending demise? Usually that starts about April or May when we lose a game or two and haven't got our act together yet. But the day after our 3rd flag in a row? Give us a break

Ignore the uneducated D4E. You blokes have set the standard those that want to knock you off have to aspire to beating it.

[The Apostle]

Purch the difference in the 50s-60s was that the power clubs then had wealthy financial 'backers' to get the best of the best...paper bags marked '$' were rampant. Is this what all 'good' clubs are based on?

It's a well known fact these days that Centrals has the fattest brown paper bag in the league...

[birdmanptr]

From afar, the way I see it is that before the AFL f$%ked up the SANFL, Centrals were a no nothing side and had those changes not taken place, Port Adelaide would probably still be the dominent side in the league.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

Centrals are dominant only because Port are f%&ked. No doubt, in todays game, Centrals have got the the formula spot on and you have to acknowledge that but there are some other factors that just make thier domination easier. Firstly, sucess breeds success, and it must be easier for Centrals to persude players to join thier ranks than any other other club in the league. Afterall who wouldn't want to play for such a sucessful club.

Secondly, Centrals have a psychological edge over all of thier rivals come finals time. I wouldn't have said Centrals league form this year was that dominant, they were pumped a few times and finished way off Glenelg. But it's almost like the other sides expect to lose to Centrals in the finals and both Sturt and Glenelg had plenty of chances to kill off the dogs this year.

Centrals dominance will continue, imo, until the other top sides in the league can switch off that fear factor mentality and just go out and take the dogs on.

I agree JTC. The one point that you didn't mention is that the current CDFC has been built on POKIES, taking $$ from many who can't afford it, which is most unlike Port of the 50's and Sturt of the 60's. IMO, and despite their run of GFs/Premierships, it will be very hard to reconcile thier current run with the pre-cows success of other clubs.

In fact, given the financial situation of my club in recent times I'm pretty damn proud of where we've got this season (probably a greater achievement than the CDFC)

If Centrals can build a side with out being affected by the Draft why cant the others and what a load of crap about the pokies they are not the only ones with pokies and no one forces you to play these machines so Pokie addiction is a self inflicted wound just like drinking smoking and drugs

[redden whites]

North Korea and Iran are about the last remaining hopes

[BenchedEagle]

'COME AND GET US'

[aceman]

Purch the difference in the 50s-60s was that the power clubs then had wealthy financial 'backers' to get the best of the best...paper bags marked '$' were rampant. Is this what all 'good' clubs are based on?

It's a well known fact these days that Centrals has the fattest brown paper bag in the league...

Well done Centrals. you've set the bar pretty high, I'm not sure there are many clubs that will match it in a long, long time.