Can anyone end the Bulldogs dominance ?

[eaglehaslanded]

After 10 straight Grand Final appearances and 8 Premierships it would be fair to say that most neutral supporters of the SANFL are sick of the Bulldogs dominance over the rest of the competition but the question remains is can anyone stop the Bulldogs reign as the premier team. Mattew Slade has retired, surely the Gowans twins won't be far behind him possibly Daniel Schel as well. Will this create an opening for another team to create a dynasty unto itself.

[The Apostle]

They've been saying this since just after the 2002 Grand Final...

[mal]

I am 1 nuetral supporter who never gets sick of seeing a champion footy club keep winning
Deep down there is nothing wrong with teams that dominate for large periods of time
Im always pleased if the best clubs win all of the time
Fortunately in the SANFL we still have champion teams dominating unlike the fabricated National comp which has a daft I mean draft to eventually wear down champion teams which is bullcrapp

Respect the players coaches and the admin at CD
And MOST of the supporters

[stampy]

you just have to hand it to that club, absolute dominance in the major round for a decade, total congratulations, salutations bow to them but their dominance is an embarassment to the other 8 clubs in the comp purely in the fact that no one can match their superiority, like all supporters bar theirs i am absolutely sick of it, they have this mental hold on sides, you just have to look at the qualifying and 2nd semi finals, sturt and the bays couldnt finish them off. I dont know the answer.................time for another drink, still drowning me sorrows, for some reason me tie keeps tightening up on me and i have a feeling of something being on me back plus [b]me bananas have disappeared!!!!![/b]

[birdmanptr]

Well their Bs came 3rd so they still have some players comming through So doubt it

[cje]

no they will be around the mark for another few years this was their decade whos to say the next decade wont be theirs again why are people sick of them winning?
surely its up to the other 8 clubs to improve and then surpass them they should be congratulated not frowned upon for their ability to win when it counts.

[Sojourner]

Not in the short term. Central have built their side up so that it is not based around specific players. Central have invested heavily into the local football clubs ensuring that the players that cant make it onto their League List but do make it onto the Reserves List get the right training and game time in the Ammos. Its not about the current list that Centrals have, it is the way that the side has been built up for success from all levels of their staffing right down through to the supply of quality juniors into the club. Various coaching staff members as well as players have been lost from Central and it makes little difference and will continue not to. I cant see any club getting within the realm of Central until they undertake the same work through their zones that Central do. That will never happen in the short term because sides are not prepared to do what it takes to connect with the local clubs and try to connect with sides several council areas away from where they play. Central can draw from Gawler through to Golden Grove and get some of the best ammo players and juniors going around to play locally with Central. Several of those sides have waiting lists of players that want to play for the club, good luck getting any of that changed any time soon!

[stampy]

they are a champion team, have player turnover every year but it dont seem to matter, how do they bloody do it?????

[birdmanptr]

2 years straight Qualifying a goal or less This year 2nd semi 2 pts and then the key is a WEEKS BREAK. Would be interesting to see what would happen if they had to come through the Prelim and then the GF.Some how i dont think we will find out cant do any thing but admire them and wonder how good it would feel.PAFC had it now CDFC have it.Long time before they catch up to PAFC but the last 10 years is better than what PAFC had only just but its better or is it 6 straight or 8/10.So it aint them comming back to the pack its the pack catching up UNLESS they sell their soul and join the AFL

The other factor is have they ever been tested on GF day apart from the first. Last 2 years dont look it but 08 game over by 3 quarter time and this year by quarter time

WINNING MARGINS
2009 Central 13.14 (92) Sturt 7.12 (54) 38 points 35,647
2008 Central 17.10 (112) Glenelg 11.10 (76) 36 points 34,128
2007 Central 16.11 (107) North 5.12 (42) 65 points 30,478
2006 Eagles 17.19 (121) Central 7.3.(45) 76 points 25,130
2005 Central 15.14.(104) Eagles 11.10 (76) 28 points 28,637
2004 Central 23.15 (153) Eagles 4.4 (28) 125 points 24,207
2003 Central 17.9 (111) West 11.11 (77) 34 points 28,199
2002 Sturt 13.14 (92) Central 6.9 (45) 47 points 35,187
2001 Central 10.11 (71) Eagles 4.8 (32) 39 points 26,378
2000 Central 8.13 (61) Eagles 5.9 (39) 22 points

[Hondo]

I am 1 nuetral supporter who never gets sick of seeing a champion footy club keep winning
Deep down there is nothing wrong with teams that dominate for large periods of time
Im always pleased if the best clubs win all of the time

I wanted to write something more negative but I like the way you look at it

We are witnessing one of the great sporting dynasties of all time and we can either get angry about it or celebrate the achievement.

Well done Centrals. 22-2 in finals since 1999, 8-2 in grand finals. Unbelievable.

to answer the thread question: yes, this era will end sooner or later. They all do.

[whufc]

realistic INS for Central next year could be

-S.Dew
-E.Ware (spoke to him today and he said he has the itch again)
-A.Obst (kangaroos)
-S.Butler (west coast)
-J.Nash (essendon)

[birdmanptr]

realistic INS for Central next year could be

-S.Dew
-E.Ware (spoke to him today and he said he has the itch again)
-A.Obst (kangaroos)
-S.Butler (west coast)
-J.Nash (essendon)

I heard the Dew one to

[csbowes]

Centrals have had a fantastic 15 years from 1995-2009...

Sturt had it from 1965-1985...

Norwood had a good run from 1975-1985...

Port Adelaide did the same for like 100 years though and even their dominance has ended for the moment...

It all comes to end at some point, just no one knows when.

What's probably more interesting is who will take over as the dominant side when they leave?

[johntheclaret]

From afar, the way I see it is that before the AFL f$%ked up the SANFL, Centrals were a no nothing side and had those changes not taken place, Port Adelaide would probably still be the dominent side in the league.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

Centrals are dominant only because Port are f%&ked. No doubt, in todays game, Centrals have got the the formula spot on and you have to acknowledge that but there are some other factors that just make thier domination easier. Firstly, sucess breeds success, and it must be easier for Centrals to persude players to join thier ranks than any other other club in the league. Afterall who wouldn't want to play for such a sucessful club.

Secondly, Centrals have a psychological edge over all of thier rivals come finals time. I wouldn't have said Centrals league form this year was that dominant, they were pumped a few times and finished way off Glenelg. But it's almost like the other sides expect to lose to Centrals in the finals and both Sturt and Glenelg had plenty of chances to kill off the dogs this year.

Centrals dominance will continue, imo, until the other top sides in the league can switch off that fear factor mentality and just go out and take the dogs on.

[birdmanptr]

Centrals have had a fantastic 15 years from 1995-2009...

Sturt had it from 1965-1985...

Norwood had a good run from 1975-1985...

Port Adelaide did the same for like 100 years though and even their dominance has ended for the moment...

It all comes to end at some point, just no one knows when.

What's probably more interesting is who will take over as the dominant side when they leave?

Sturt 65 to 85 ? To 76 not to 86

[spell_check]

The other factor is have they ever been tested on GF day apart from the first. Last 2 years dont look it but 08 game over by 3 quarter time and this year by quarter time

WINNING MARGINS
2009 Central 13.14 (92) Sturt 7.12 (54) 38 points 35,647
2008 Central 17.10 (112) Glenelg 11.10 (76) 36 points 34,128
2007 Central 16.11 (107) North 5.12 (42) 65 points 30,478
2006 Eagles 17.19 (121) Central 7.3.(45) 76 points 25,130
2005 Central 15.14.(104) Eagles 11.10 (76) 28 points 28,637
2004 Central 23.15 (153) Eagles 4.4 (28) 125 points 24,207
2003 Central 17.9 (111) West 11.11 (77) 34 points 28,199
2002 Sturt 13.14 (92) Central 6.9 (45) 47 points 35,187
2001 Central 10.11 (71) Eagles 4.8 (32) 39 points 26,378
2000 Central 8.13 (61) Eagles 5.9 (39) 22 points

Yeah, 2005, there was only three points the difference at half time, and 13 at three quarter time.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

I know, it's tough being one of the three clubs who have had the most drafted out since 1991.

[birdmanptr]

Centrals have had a fantastic 15 years from 1995-2009...

Sturt had it from 1965-1985...

Norwood had a good run from 1975-1985...

Port Adelaide did the same for like 100 years though and even their dominance has ended for the moment...

It all comes to end at some point, just no one knows when.

What's probably more interesting is who will take over as the dominant side when they leave?

We played in 12 GF in 20. Years winning a quarter

[purch]

From afar, the way I see it is that before the AFL f$%ked up the SANFL, Centrals were a no nothing side and had those changes not taken place, Port Adelaide would probably still be the dominent side in the league.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

Centrals are dominant only because Port are f%&ked. No doubt, in todays game, Centrals have got the the formula spot on and you have to acknowledge that but there are some other factors that just make thier domination easier. Firstly, sucess breeds success, and it must be easier for Centrals to persude players to join thier ranks than any other other club in the league. Afterall who wouldn't want to play for such a sucessful club.

Secondly, Centrals have a psychological edge over all of thier rivals come finals time. I wouldn't have said Centrals league form this year was that dominant, they were pumped a few times and finished way off Glenelg. But it's almost like the other sides expect to lose to Centrals in the finals and both Sturt and Glenelg had plenty of chances to kill off the dogs this year.

Centrals dominance will continue, imo, until the other top sides in the league can switch off that fear factor mentality and just go out and take the dogs on.

I agree JTC. The one point that you didn't mention is that the current CDFC has been built on POKIES, taking $$ from many who can't afford it, which is most unlike Port of the 50's and Sturt of the 60's. IMO, and despite their run of GFs/Premierships, it will be very hard to reconcile thier current run with the pre-cows success of other clubs.

In fact, given the financial situation of my club in recent times I'm pretty damn proud of where we've got this season (probably a greater achievement than the CDFC)

[johntheclaret]

From afar, the way I see it is that before the AFL f$%ked up the SANFL, Centrals were a no nothing side and had those changes not taken place, Port Adelaide would probably still be the dominent side in the league.

I don't think it is fair to compare what Centrals have achieved to what Port and Sturt achieved when they dominated before the AFL came along. How can you possibly compare like for like when a team (any team) can develope a string of great young talent only to see it snatched away in the annual draft. How many draftees did West lose last year?

Centrals are dominant only because Port are f%&ked. No doubt, in todays game, Centrals have got the the formula spot on and you have to acknowledge that but there are some other factors that just make thier domination easier. Firstly, sucess breeds success, and it must be easier for Centrals to persude players to join thier ranks than any other other club in the league. Afterall who wouldn't want to play for such a sucessful club.

Secondly, Centrals have a psychological edge over all of thier rivals come finals time. I wouldn't have said Centrals league form this year was that dominant, they were pumped a few times and finished way off Glenelg. But it's almost like the other sides expect to lose to Centrals in the finals and both Sturt and Glenelg had plenty of chances to kill off the dogs this year.

Centrals dominance will continue, imo, until the other top sides in the league can switch off that fear factor mentality and just go out and take the dogs on.

I agree JTC. The one point that you didn't mention is that the current CDFC has been built on POKIES, taking $$ from many who can't afford it, which is most unlike Port of the 50's and Sturt of the 60's. IMO, and despite their run of GFs/Premierships, it will be very hard to reconcile thier current run with the pre-cows success of other clubs.

In fact, given the financial situation of my club in recent times I'm pretty damn proud of where we've got this season (probably a greater achievement than the CDFC)

If Centrals can raise money through thier gaming outlets, then good luck to them imo Purch. Just like North and every other club are trying to do. As for taking $$$ of poor people, surely those same people have a choice. If you are thinking of poor people as unemployed who claim state benefits, then that's something the SA government should be addressing. I take your point though.

[csbowes]

There's a degree of sour grapes in those posts above I think. Port Adelaide had the advantage of success breeding success and being able to recruit decent players on that basis... plus they had the mental edge on other teams also...

Its the same now, but with Centrals. So I think that's a bit unfair on the Bulldogs...

That said, I agree we shouldn't compare post-1991 with pre-1991, as the competitions were completely different, one was the be all and end all of the state where the best players stayed and played. That's just not the case now...

I don't think people are anymore miffed at Centrals now than they were after listening to Sturt's club anthem five years in a row or Port Adelaide's six years in a row in past decades... surely everyone hated those teams back then.

For all we know we're only a few years away from South winning 6 in a row.