Is SAFC Imploding? - Sampson Gone

[Hondo]

Regarding this issue and other coaching merry-go-rounds of the past, a wrong decision in the past isn't made right by persisting with it. Even if that means X number of coaches in Y years, you've got to keep trying to get the right guy in there. Glenelg are a good example of this.

To what extent others should be accountable for a past wrong decision I'm not sure in this case.

I say this because I sense from comments by South people on here that everyone was more hoping Clay would work out rather than being 100% sure they had the best possible coach that their budget would allow. He seemed to be a quick fix to an unexpected problem. Moving on to a new coach seems to sort of close the door on that whole messy affair.

These are comments from an outsider 1000 miles away from the inner workings of the club so South people please take them as that and correct me if needed.

[& Pigs Fly]

I wonder who wants to put their head in the "Noarlunga Noose", any takers?
One thing in your favour, you're on a hiding to nothing and the worst that can happen to the succesful applicant is you find yourself hung, drawn & quartered in a season. now that's about enough to get the best bloke available. Pig's Ar$e!![/quote]

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[Jackal]

South has actually done the right thing and got rid of a coach who was not going to take them where they need to be due to his lack of commitment. The facts have been evident for a couple of months and the lateness of the announcement is staggering...is the comedian still in charge at Noarlunga.
If this was a business decision made without emotion it would have been an easy decision.
Up to South to make two good decisions in a row which they have found difficult.

[ORDoubleBlues]

Ron, put all modesty aside and nominate yourself as the best candidate.

Phil Carman, where are you? Know you'd still be keen for an SANFL coaching gig and know your not scared of a challenge.

[mighty_tiger_79]

i believe the writing was on the wall for sampson halfway through the year.

but still disappointing for the club to do what they did.

[panthers 2008]

Unfortunately the club has seen Robert Pyman come and go,his assistants trevor Potts and Gary Cameron get moved on,then Jack Cahill come and go along with his assistant Michael Taylor.
Clay who was an assistant to Jack took over the league coach position,but instead of just seeing out the season was signed up for the following season.You would think most clubs would sit down and think long and hard about the road forward after the previous two seasons.
I had no problem with Clay being signed on for the extra season but at least get the best possible assistants and the need to recruit a few more proven players was all too evident!
Sure tough decisions have to be made in all aspects of a football club and in life in general,but the way the club gas gone about the past few seasons is really quite shit house!
Its not just bad luck that the coaching turnstile has been swinging around,the buck stops with the club itself!!!!

[The Yetti]

Could the current U/18 coach get a promotion.The Panthers could do a lot worst.

Not from what I have heard

[pale ale]

I cant believe that Ben Kavanagh is still on the committee to appoint a new coach.
He obviously had no idea when a inexperienced coach was given rookie assistants and little or no recruits and needed a complete club and player overhaul and that Clay would succeed in a year and a half. This was never going to work and what South really needs is a CEO that has a good footy background to make the right decisions, who does this guy answer to, why has he still got a job and not Clay and still allowed to appoint another coach.
SOUTH - GET A DECENT CEO that knows what he is doing.( that goes for the board also, follow BH and resign)
Then get a coach.....

Thats my 2 cents worth anyway.

[westcoastpanther]

If I see one more big headed, I told you so post, from you Aceman, I swear I will get on the back of the long line to hunt you down and.....

[saintal]

I cant believe that Ben Kavanagh is still on the committee to appoint a new coach.
He obviously had no idea when a inexperienced coach was given rookie assistants and little or no recruits and needed a complete club and player overhaul and that Clay would succeed in a year and a half. This was never going to work and what South really needs is a CEO that has a good footy background to make the right decisions, who does this guy answer to, why has he still got a job and not Clay and still allowed to appoint another coach.
SOUTH - GET A DECENT CEO that knows what he is doing.( that goes for the board also, follow BH and resign)
Then get a coach.....

Thats my 2 cents worth anyway.

Spot on.

The interview on 5aa with Kavanagh was a bit of a token effort I felt, not too many probing or hard questions.

He mentioned that Clay didn’t have the coaching expertise that they wanted or were hoping for. Well, who appointed and then reappointed him?

[aceman]

If I see one more big headed, I told you so post, from you Aceman, I swear I will get on the back of the long line to hunt you down and.....

And do what????????? I'll give you my address if that will help.
Truth sometimes hurts and is often hard to accept, being a South supporter you can do something about it, just a bit more than idle threats on a forum will be necessary though.

[westcoastpanther]

If I see one more big headed, I told you so post, from you Aceman, I swear I will get on the back of the long line to hunt you down and.....

And do what????????? I'll give you my address if that will help.
Truth sometimes hurts and is often hard to accept, being a South supporter you can do something about it, just a bit more than idle threats on a forum will be necessary though.

You must have a pretty insignificant real life considering you have to fill yourself with importance on a forum.......Sure you don't work for Weslo?

I notice on the Ginever replacement thread your full of impending doom for Port as well, man your just the greatest poster this forum has ever seen, we're lucky to have you, honestly.......

Aceman = FIGJAM

[JohnnyG]

Had to post my thoughts here too!!!

My 2 cents worth....

I think we have to be realistic about this. Sampson was NOT the best coach to take South forward to competing in finals football. Sampson was thrown in the deep end after the "Cahill" saga with no coaching experience. He might be South's favorite son but the side really did not improve from the previous year. He did not do his apprenticeship....its like sending a 1st year Carpentry apprentice to build a house....it aint going to happen.

South needs a strong leader to get in the club and shake it by the horns.....WITHOUT ANY INFLUENCE FROM THE BOARD!!!!! ...yes, BOLD for a purpose - Keep your noses out of it!!!!!

It is sad Sampo is gone but people - Move on. Get over it and look forward to a new coach, some new players and hopefully some wins in 2010.

If people are that angry - organise a members forum again. I have been to a few and alot of people dont say what they really think to the board and are quieter than mice!!!! Thats alot of the problem at South - we sit there and except mediocrity and accept it. Other clubs dont!!!!

The new coach has a huge job on their hands......the board and CEO better get it right!!!!!

I agree with your thoughts and i have no real problem with Sampson going although i feel sorry for him as a loyal clubman.
My thoughts on a new coach etc, however, are that without a decent playing list, even the AFL coach of the year will get us nowhere.

In my mind, the exodus of players after we made the finals a few years ago (and the subsequent non-replacement of them) was the start of our rapid decline again.
I've always thought that had John Cahill had a playing list similar to the one Pyman had in that finals campaign, that Cahill's style would have lead us to a premiership or close.

[Big Phil]

Interesting to read the article in the 'Tiser today by Andrew Capel...

Mentioned former Bomber Darren Bewick will be in the mix for the Panthers job...

Does anyone know what his record as a coach is, is he any good ???

[beaver]

wasnt he one of the assistant coaches at north melbourne that got the boot when brad scott took over.

[darley16]

My good friends Aceman and Lunchbox, it's too easy to kick something/someone where the're down, currently South are down. My role as a supporter, or any supporter of a footy club is to support, not blindly but help out when all others are against them. Clay wasn't sacked, fact, nor was Cahill, fact. We can argue the merits or otherwise and as a supporter iám dissappointed with their decision not to renew Clay's contract, however i can also understand why they didn't. When the new coach is named i would suggest most of the negative comments posted here will be forgotten as will winning more games that unfortunately Clay couldn't produce.

[aceman]

If I see one more big headed, I told you so post, from you Aceman, I swear I will get on the back of the long line to hunt you down and.....

And do what????????? I'll give you my address if that will help.
Truth sometimes hurts and is often hard to accept, being a South supporter you can do something about it, just a bit more than idle threats on a forum will be necessary though.

You must have a pretty insignificant real life considering you have to fill yourself with importance on a forum.......Sure you don't work for Weslo?

I notice on the Ginever replacement thread your full of impending doom for Port as well, man your just the greatest poster this forum has ever seen, we're lucky to have you, honestly.......

Aceman = FIGJAM

Good stuff FTL

[Lunchbox Legend]

My good friends Aceman and Lunchbox, it's too easy to kick something/someone where the're down, currently South are down. My role as a supporter, or any supporter of a footy club is to support, not blindly but help out when all others are against them. Clay wasn't sacked, fact, nor was Cahill, fact. We can argue the merits or otherwise and as a supporter iám dissappointed with their decision not to renew Clay's contract, however i can also understand why they didn't. When the new coach is named i would suggest most of the negative comments posted here will be forgotten as will winning more games that unfortunately Clay couldn't produce.

As long as "supporters" of south accept what's going on, nothing will change.
It doesn't matter who is coaching the club, if things aren't fixed nothing will change.
The club needs a cleanout, starting at the top. People need to be accountable.
As far as your kick when down comment - south are always down - last at the top in 1964??????????????
Get involved and change your club. Recognise that it does need to change. Don't complain to us because your club is sh!t, change it, improve it.

[darley16]

Not complaining Lunchbox, defending! As for getting involved i couldn't agree with you more and i am. All Southies out there get to AGM, attend info meetings, nominate for the board, get involved with anything and everything at our club.

[poohbear]

south should move back to panther park (st marys) and start again.
In all honesty i feel sorry for the board etc, they now have no credibility, they've embarrased themselves infront of every person with some fragrent of interest of football in South Australia and they have proven that not only can they not make decisions but are highly inadequate to serve in their current roles.
who the hell are they kidding?