Glenelg v Central 2nd Semi Final Review

[CENTURION]

Where is UKFan?

[CENTURION]

Well done Central, lucky again. Hopefully We will get lucky again in 2 weeks.

[CENTURION]

And here you are, wasting all your 'good' years with no flags to show for it. Shame really.

Oh wait, no it's not.

Be a good little boy and go off and play in the sandpit or playground while the big boys are having a chat about their game ... thanks.

BUT he does have a point.

[dedja]

And here you are, wasting all your 'good' years with no flags to show for it. Shame really.

Oh wait, no it's not.

Be a good little boy and go off and play in the sandpit or playground while the big boys are having a chat about their game ... thanks.

BUT he does have a point.

LOL, you keep out of it.

[csbowes]

btw, in your avatar, which one are you?

I'm the small good looking one!

[Grahaml]

No need to talk much about the game. Plenty will be said by greater authorities than I, but it is truly a priveledge to follow a side we can never count out of a final. There were times not long ago it was the case we never thought we had a final won!

10 years ago if a bookie framed a market for the dogs coming back from 20 points down at 3/4 time to win their 10th straight second semi then there would be a few people losing their houses.

Looking forward the dogs are really much better (IMHO) than what they showed today. Caughed the ball up too often, gave away too many frees and didn't take the chances they had. Glenelg were nice to return the favour later on but I think if both sides took the chances they should have had we wouldn't have been 26 points down at any stage. I hope Kirkby enjoyed his day today because he won't get the chance of a huge mismatch if as expected Hayes returns for the GF. Callinan to add more polish to our finish and class around the packs. Griffin also pushing to get in.

Eddie BOG (I heard he was saving that one just for Dutchy and has something better for the granny) while Giles won't get into our best he really has taken a step in the last fortnight. Far from the automatic delisting from the power people seem to think.

Finally, I made a disparaging remark about McConnell a couple of years ago or so that became someone's quote (at least until it was proven correct) and it seems no more appropriate than in light of today's game. I don't profess to tell Mark Mickan how to do his job (I dare say he's a little better at it than I) but I don't see how he will get another run with the bays senior side. It's a great match up for Richie Cochrane and he was just so ineffective across the day it was surely embarassing. And he even had the chance to do a John Anthony and win the game despite being as useful as underwear in Paris Hilton's wardrobe but couldn't get it done.

Prediction for next week is a tough match. Sturt will battle all day long. Grand finals aren't easy to come by and Sturt will make Glenelg earn it. But Glenelg have just a bit more polish and should get over the line by a couple of goals, but the monday paper will be suddenly talking about the banged up bays against the freshened dogs as if the game is already won.

I just hope Brenton Honor doesn't pick us......

[fish]

Just got home still somewhat pissed after the post match celebrations.

On the game: I thought Glenelg played better over the four quarters and would be disappointed in not winning.

On the umpiring: I thought the umpiring was atrocious - so many 50/50's went Glenelgs way throughout the game. I sat with a friend who is a neutral supporter and he agreed.

On the result: What can I say my team keeps on winning finals games I am in awe of them.

On the future: Well it is still a three horse race, just like it was at the start of the finals series. Any of the top three can still win the flag...

[Gozu]

Magnificent game of footy, said to my mate at 3 quarter time who is a long time Glenelg supporter that even though Centrals pulled it out last week against Sturt they won't be snatching this one! He was so dejected after that, gotta feel for him being a St Kilda/Glenelg supporter.

Awesome comeback by Centrals, 10 straight GF's and if the Bays get there you couldn't back them to beat the Dogs.

[cje]

im shattered the bottom line dogs to good.
serious question are we the biggest chokers of any sport we may as well give the trophy to the dogs now.

[sjt]

I used to be a Crows member in the first few years, and have been to a couple of games this year. I reckon the 14 or so thousand yesterday made more noise and created a greater atmosphere than the 35,000 plus Crows or 20,000 Port supporters.

And to NFC (should be NFI) if the result has been so easy to predict, you would/should have made a fortune on Sportsbet.

[JK]

I went along to this game with a mate, and as neutrals (lol Norwood and Port supporrters looking for something to do in September, oh how the times have changed) we thoroughly enjoyed the game.

We actually had a sizeable investment on the Bays, so that was disappointing, but Central are a great team to watch in finals ... They are just so professional.

Never let the opponent get too far ahead, and then swamp them with pressure ... It was very noticeable that when the Dogs ramped up the pressure, the difference in composure of the two teams was chalk and cheese.

Bays fans need not despair, after all there was only a kick in it, but to see Glenelg finding that required composure within the space of 2 weeks seems a big task.

And btw, I thought the atmosphere, despite a much smaller crowd than AFL games bring (well most anyway) was fantastic yesterday in both games.

[Pseudo]

I went along to this game with a mate, and as neutrals (lol Norwood and Port supporrters looking for something to do in September, oh how the times have changed) we thoroughly enjoyed the game.

A couple of blokes dressed in Port Magpies/Power regalia (both known to me) came and plonked themselves down in the middle of the Snouts after half time and started barracking vigorously for the Bays.

Indeed the times have changed!

[sjt]

Note to Shane Harris: FFS, three replacements please. Deplorable standard of umpiring, who Glenelg bias for 3 quarters was ridiculous. The 'level ups' came with equally ridiculous decisions our way in the last quarter. Last weeks trio were excellent, can we have them back!

ST...

I thought they we're OK, not perfect but OK. To me they favoured the team that got front position. Us for the majority of the game and then in the crucial last quarter when the Dogs did the hard yards they got the decisions.

Not being disrespectful am Bays, but of course you did - you got the armchair ride for 3 qtrs. Not just because you were in front, you got the soft ones en masse. We did in the last qtr.

As I said, not being disrespectful to you at all. Umpiring is subjective...
...the Bays (bar the sensation 33 McConnell, pure gold) were terrific and most unlucky not to win today.

ST...

I know like other stats frees for and against don't necessarily reveal the true picture. But, 18 to 8 in the first half I think does show how inept (to say the least) the umpiring was. Before anyone responds, no it wasn't because the Bays were playing in front or first to the ball etc it was because the umpiring was crap!

[Dutchy]

Few points, the head aint much clearer than last night unfortuantely

> No doubt at 3/4 time Roy freed the dogs up to play forward of the ball and "cheat" a little, if it meant losing by 50 points so be it, but that move gave them the chance to win, which they did. Bays wernt good enough to hurt them the other way which we should have been
> Ed Sansbury was the beneficiary of this and did it well, this is the way he likes to play, but BOG, give me a break
> Macca, despite losing weight and looking fitter than ever heas lost the yard of pace he had 2 years ago when he was a 50 goal forward, he was only on the field for the last 10 minutes of each quarter and did set up one of our goals in the 3rd, but time has come to be replaced, there are 5-6 boys raring to go from the ressies, Kellock or O'Grady for me - Hinge needs another in the ressies
> Dogs fans reckon Macca is bad, how about Ryan Williams, hope he stays in the side
> Kirby played OK, and took some good contested marks but also dropped a couple of chest marks inside 50, our delivery was pretty good but overall think we dropped 4-5 marks that we should of taken in retrospect
> IF we get over Sturt, we have a minute chance of a flag, small but possible, fotty works in funny ways

[Dutchy]

I know like other stats frees for and against don't necessarily reveal the true picture. But, 18 to 8 in the first half I think does show how inept (to say the least) the umpiring was. Before anyone responds, no it wasn't because the Bays were playing in front or first to the ball etc it was because the umpiring was crap!

So cause the umpiring wasnt even its "inept"? Do you think the free kick count should be on the scoreboard so the umpires can even it up? Seriously....

[topsywaldron]

> Kirby played OK, and took some good contested marks but also dropped a couple of chest marks inside 50

was it Kirkby that dropped one with a minute to go?

[Dutchy]

> Kirby played OK, and took some good contested marks but also dropped a couple of chest marks inside 50

was it Kirkby that dropped one with a minute to go?

dunno, its all a blur for me at the moment, will watch the replay tonight

[sjt]

I know like other stats frees for and against don't necessarily reveal the true picture. But, 18 to 8 in the first half I think does show how inept (to say the least) the umpiring was. Before anyone responds, no it wasn't because the Bays were playing in front or first to the ball etc it was because the umpiring was crap!

So cause the umpiring wasnt even its "inept"? Do you think the free kick count should be on the scoreboard so the umpires can even it up? Seriously....

No, I'd be happy with some fairness though. if you read my post I said "frees for and against don't necessarily reveal the true picture". It wasn't inept because it was uneven (never said it had to be even), it was just plain crap and bias.

[sjt]

Few points, the head aint much clearer than last night unfortuantely

> > Dogs fans reckon Macca is bad, how about Ryan Williams, hope he stays in the side
> > IF we get over Sturt, we have a minute chance of a flag, small but possible, fotty works in funny ways

I think just as many Bay fans have said Macca is "bad", and just as many Dogs fans have said Williams has been bad. Personally I don't criticise other teams players as it has a habbit of coming back and bitting you on the arse.

[doggies4eva]

I don't usually comment on umpires but I will for this game.

The most confusing aspect of yesterday's performance was the ducking the head/too high interpretation. It is important to protect players heads to avoid injury but yesterday we had so many dubiuos calls that players would grab the ball duck their head and charge at an opposition player. Surely if the momentum comes from the player hit high then it is not a free!

By the end of the game there were many players staging for frees this way. This is quite dangerous and has been encouraged by the umps. Although it wasn't consistantly applied because when James Gowans tried it he was told he ducked his head.

The in the last quarter Slade was contesting the ball and was belted in the back of the head - quite a blatant free - the call "play on". Go figure.