EPL Discussion Thread Season 2009/2010

[devilsadvocate]

spurs can go and get fugged

Tough break for the Brum. Should have been a draw really after we squandered so many chances in the first half. Although your lot had some good chances to take the biccys in the 2nd half too.

Birmingham are a decent side IMO. I think they'll stay up if they can continue to play like they did last night and also like they did against Man U.

[nuggety goodness]

Stoke can go gefugged too! lol

I watched a bit last night, before I fell asleep on the floor of the lounge after a few reds, and we didn't look like we deserved a win. We were terrible.

Get up you Potters DW!!!!! didn't see it but a win is a win...

[smithy]

With Chel$ki being banned until 2011 from signing any new players for illegally signing/poaching a player, (see Chel$ki thread) Man UTD, after angering Lazio with similar wads of cash to the parents of Macheda and a green keepers job for DAD, are being investigated for poaching another player by "buying" the parents.

Just a question, why is it ok for Man Utd to do it then?? If you dont know what I mean see the Federico Macheda transfer/signing, playing in Lazio youth team man utd payed the family money (not sure how much) and he left Lazio and went to Man utd and Lazio recived nothing

Man UTD investigated AGAIN !!!!!!!!!

[johntheclaret]

Adebayor is a disgrace. Ran from one end to the other to celebrate his goal in front of the arsenal fans.

not interesed in celebrating for the City fans.

Will get 3 match ban for sure.

[johntheclaret]

I've been to two away games so far this year, chavski and Anfield. Having only really watched EPL on the telly, I have been suprised at the lack of atmosphere at both grounds. Now maybe it's because it's only little Burnley that happen to be in town but both times it's been the claret fans that have been making all the noise. All this whilst the home sides have won 3 - 0 and 4 - 0 respectively. Thank christ for Turf Moor, where I am sure the atmos has raised the players.

The other thing I have noticed (I guess I already knew) is how shite the EPL really is. If there is a comparision between the EPL and the CCC it would be the AFL and the SANFL. Sorry fella's but unless you are there, you have no idea how bad it is. Non contact, shite time wasting, shite diving, the game really is f%&ked up. And i am talking about EPL not the AFL although I thought I had better make that clear as you would be forgiven fro wondering which code I was on about as they are both as bad.

Here is a good example: Drogba dives in the penalty box, so dramtically that he injures himself throwing himself to the floor and has to go off. The ref, who was stood only 10 yards away, righty, waves play on and burnley clear. Now my question is, why didn't the ref go back and book Drogba for diving? He clearly thought Drogba dived in the box but instead of applying the rules he just let it go. That kind of non decision just encourages the cheats, so much so that the EPL is riddled with them.

Eduado gets a two match ban for diving, but where is the consistency? Hibbert won Everton a penalty when he clearly divide in the box which could have cost the clarets two very valuable point, The TV showed it was a dive, the TV pundits saw it was a dive, but what action did the FA take. Sweet FA, and that's why the EPL is shite.

Don't get me wrong, getting into the EPL has been fantastic, and the win over Man U will definitely be a highlight for many, many years, but I have to admit, I miss the honesty of the CCC.

[Bully]

I've been to two away games so far this year, chavski and Anfield. Having only really watched EPL on the telly, I have been suprised at the lack of atmosphere at both grounds. Now maybe it's because it's only little Burnley that happen to be in town but both times it's been the claret fans that have been making all the noise. All this whilst the home sides have won 3 - 0 and 4 - 0 respectively. Thank christ for Turf Moor, where I am sure the atmos has raised the players.

The other thing I have noticed (I guess I already knew) is how shite the EPL really is. If there is a comparision between the EPL and the CCC it would be the AFL and the SANFL. Sorry fella's but unless you are there, you have no idea how bad it is. Non contact, shite time wasting, shite diving, the game really is f%&ked up. And i am talking about EPL not the AFL although I thought I had better make that clear as you would be forgiven fro wondering which code I was on about as they are both as bad.

Here is a good example: Drogba dives in the penalty box, so dramtically that he injures himself throwing himself to the floor and has to go off. The ref, who was stood only 10 yards away, righty, waves play on and burnley clear. Now my question is, why didn't the ref go back and book Drogba for diving? He clearly thought Drogba dived in the box but instead of applying the rules he just let it go. That kind of non decision just encourages the cheats, so much so that the EPL is riddled with them.

Eduado gets a two match ban for diving, but where is the consistency? Hibbert won Everton a penalty when he clearly divide in the box which could have cost the clarets two very valuable point, The TV showed it was a dive, the TV pundits saw it was a dive, but what action did the FA take. Sweet FA, and that's why the EPL is shite.

Don't get me wrong, getting into the EPL has been fantastic, and the win over Man U will definitely be a highlight for many, many years, but I have to admit, I miss the honesty of the CCC.

good point, been saying that for weeks since eduardo dived. Yes i admit for the record he dived but 99% of games have players diving ....like wenger said they are witch hunting teams and Arsenal just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[johntheclaret]

Don't agree Bully or rather, you are right but for the wrong reasons.

If it had been an EPL game then, like the rest, nothing would have happened. That's my point

It's only because it was a European game, that any action was taken and that's only because Platini would be involved somewhere along the line and it is his ambition to hound the English teams out of Europe by any means.

[Dirko]

But I have to admit, I miss the honesty of the CCC.

Bullshit...you miss Derby

[johntheclaret]

But I have to admit, I miss the honesty of the CCC.

Bullshit...you miss Derby

True, I always enjoyed an easy 6 points

[smithy]

Couple of things I'd like to see introduced into the EPL, one of which JTC has already mentioned and that is harsher penalties for diving.
The other is to not let players kick the ball out of play if someone is injured.
If players know that play will conntinue if you fake an injury they would be less likely to do it knowing that their team will be 1 man down cause they've feigned injury.
I believe a rule came in that play should continue unless the ref blows his whistle or it's an obvious head injury.
Yet still the fakers wriggle on the ground to fake injury and players feel obliged to kick the ball out because it's etiquette.
Which is the better etiquette???? faking injury or not kicking the ball out, the latter I'd suggest.

Football really needs to start getting with reality and clamp down on the divers cause it turns a lot of people away from the game.

[johntheclaret]

Spot on smithy, that's exactly what happens now. They introduced a rule that if the trainer has to come on, then the player has to go off, but again, becuase no one follows it through, the ruling is just a mockery.

Player goes down "injured"
Trainer comes on and spends 5 minutes "treating" the "injury"
Player goes off with the trainer and the ref immediately lets him back on.

So what's the bloody point of that.

I would amend that rule to something like: The game only stops if the ref blows for it to stop. If the ref has to dstop the game for an injury, then the trainer automatically has to come on the treat the "injured" player. the player then has to go off, and stay off for the same lenghth of time he was treated on the field.

Alternatively, take the responsibility for timekeeping away from the ref, like it is in Aussie rules. It the game stops, so does the clock. One of the reasons Aussie Rules footballers don't feign injury is because there is no point. Take away the advantage of feigning injury and you take away play acting.

[whufc]

So true i would love to sit down with a stop watch and record how much time the ball is actually in play for, at a guess i would say less than 80 mins.

[Bully]

Adebayor to recieve a fine for his incidents during saturdays game i heard?

[devilsadvocate]

Adebayor to recieve a fine for his incidents during saturdays game i heard?

He should have been sent off for his challenge on RVP. But because it was RVP, i think we should all just forget it ever happened.

Adebayor is my favourite non Spurs player this week That full pitch length run to celebrate in front of the Arse fans was the furthest Ive seen him fun in a football game EVER. Good thing he had a great game, because he made a real twat of himself really.

[Bully]

Adebayor to recieve a fine for his incidents during saturdays game i heard?

He should have been sent off for his challenge on RVP. But because it was RVP, i think we should all just forget it ever happened.

Adebayor is my favourite non Spurs player this week That full pitch length run to celebrate in front of the Arse fans was the furthest Ive seen him fun in a football game EVER. Good thing he had a great game, because he made a real twat of himself really.

im sure he will love playing your mob because of a former arsenal player and im sure your supporters will give him crap when citeh plays the spuds

[johntheclaret]

So true i would love to sit down with a stop watch and record how much time the ball is actually in play for, at a guess i would say less than 80 mins.

Sky actual give out the stats at the end of each live game Hammy. Sorry but you are way, way, way out mate. Average playing time is between 40 and 50 minutes per game. I've actually seen a game where there was only 37 minutes of play.

disgraceful considering the amount of $$$ paid by the fans (around $50 a game

[johntheclaret]

Adebayor to recieve a fine for his incidents during saturdays game i heard?

Sorry mate, you heard wrong. Check out the City thread.

[johntheclaret]

Two things stuck out to me today watching both Man U and Chelsea. On the good side you can see the absolute determination that both sides have, to win the game. It was good to see Tevez never give up attitude, but one man alone can't carry the burden.

And that's the difference between the top two and the rest in my opinion. Owen's goal at the death showed why Man U are at the top, as they showed they are not prepared to settle for a draw. Drogba was the same at Chelsea and his goal said exactly the same. there are no lost causes as far as these two clubs are concerned.

Now for the bad side. Where the hell did the ref find an extra one and 3/4 minutes of extra time from? In my opinion Owens should never have scored because there was never an extra 1 3/4 minutes. Having already given 4 minutes of added time, and only 1 substitute adding 30 seconds, it's time like these that just reinforce the claim that United can play on until they score.

And as for the brilliance of Drogba, his diving and throwing himself on the floor winning decidedly suspect free kicks is so frustrating. It frustrates the fans and it frustrates the opposition to the point where they react badly. Now in today's modern game, some might think that it is all fair and if he can frustrate the opposition giving Chelsea the advantage, them good luck, but personally I don't subscribe to this philosophy. It spoils the game and it is out and out cheating. Notably he was down injured (for the umpteinth time) and this time it was real but it took sometime before anyone went over to him. The saying "crying wolf too often" springs to mind.

[johntheclaret]

Well, well, well, so the ref says that he allowed an extra 2 minutes for the goal celebrations. wtf .

a) There wern't any goal celebrations during the 4 mins that he added on as Own scored 5 minutes and 47 seconds into the 4 minutes of added time.
b) All the goal celebrations that took place during the normal 90 minutes should have been included in the 4 minutes he added on.
c) since when did the ref start adding on time for goal celebrations. OK, I don't disagree with the thought process. the ball is not in play whilst they all jump around hugging each other, sliding across the pitch and kissing thier badges, but since when has this been policy. You can't unilateraly start to introduce your own policy when you feel like it, can you ??

hughes is fuming and no doubt will get dragged for his "we was robbed" comments, but he has a point and the ref's reason for so much added time is pretty ordinary if you ask me.

[Bully]

awesome manchester derby. brilliant game to watch but,

added stoppage time 4 minutes which = 94 minutes
owens goal = 95:29 minutes. Ref says goal celebrations add two minutes. , so you would think the game would go on to 97:29 minutes . But no of course not. Where was the extra 2 minutes for bellamys goal was it not in the 91st minute??

yes sub during the stoppage time which i was understanding adds 30 seconds.

hmmm funny how its always involves a certain team