Collingwood v Adelaide - Semi Final

[Choccies]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

Dean Laidley

You pin head overloaded.... Dean Laidley ?? Really ??
Should we accept a few crap years down the bottom picking up draft picks and accepting a crap year 1 out of 3 like some other clubs ?? I wouldn't think so.... Only one team out of 16 can win the GF each year so 15 clubs are going to be disappointed every single year. Rather than try to hang everyone in sight when you don't win the flag, or sit back and make ridiculous comments in the heat of the moment maybe try accept that the season you had was fulfilling and improvements were made in key areas. I was proud of their season and look forward to 2010.

[Psyber]

Yes, the Crows did a lot better than many predicted, and will continue to improve.
Those whose teams did less well are just being catty in their jealousy..
We'll watch them really squirm over the next few seasons...

[Hondo]

I think last year Terry Wallace was the nominated saviour .... now it's Dean Laidley

This is where the anti-NC debate really loses me. All this talk about records in finals and then those 2 names get rolled out. Bloody hell!

Rodney Eade will likely drop to 3-5 in finals in his tenure at the Bulldogs after this weekend yet he's been reappointed. Go figure.

[Footy Smart]

There is no way NC will be sacked by the Adelaide Football Club and neither he should.

end of story really

[bulldogs]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

like or not FS if they fail again in finals something has to happen. so should the club sit on there hands and not try to go fwd. I think NC has done a good job but over his time we havent delivered in crunch games and the coach needs to take a portion of the blame. Im not sure who the coach would be but until your in a position to interview and speak 1 on 1 with them who would no.
you tell me why the crows fail in finals after leading, there has to be something there

[Footy Smart]

If they cant do it bye bye craig and bring a coach in who maybe able to teach the talented kids all about mental toughness

Like who Bulldog? share with everyone the coach who would do better!

like or not FS if they fail again in finals something has to happen. so should the club sit on there hands and not try to go fwd. I think NC has done a good job but over his time we havent delivered in crunch games and the coach needs to take a portion of the blame. Im not sure who the coach would be but until your in a position to interview and speak 1 on 1 with them who would no.
you tell me why the crows fail in finals after leading, there has to be something there

Our game plan was working perfectly and the coaching staff had done there job.... in the second quarter we went inside 50 like a bunch of under 15's bombing long and missing targets., we should have been 10 goals up at half time. In the second half collingwood came out and beat us 1 on 1..... the coach cannot do anything about that its the players who have to beat their opponant then! in the end we lost with the last kick of the game

Thats football

[bulldogs]

why then do the crows lead these matches and loose. yes collingwood went one on one and what did we do flood 17 players back. show faith and back your players in. any way you cant keep losing finals when in command with out ? being asked. tell me who has a better side Crows or maggies

[leftlegger]

Craigys a good coach.
But fair call, if they dont deliver in the next 2 seasons, they should be targeting Malthouse.
IMHO he is the best in the business, and Buckley will be coaching the Pies.

Just putting it out there.

[Footy Smart]

why then do the crows lead these matches and loose. yes collingwood went one on one and what did we do flood 17 players back. show faith and back your players in. any way you cant keep losing finals when in command with out ? being asked. tell me who has a better side Crows or maggies

5 goals up in the first half is nothing in todays football.... Collingwood looked like they would run away with it in the 3rd and we rallied and looked like we had it but in the end the luck didnt go our way!

We used players loose in defence against Hawthorn when they came back at us at AAAMI and it worked we also used it against Essendon in the first half. You will find every side plays players behind the ball at some stage of a match.

Yes we were in command and collingwood are a good side and were always going to come back at us.

Collingwood have a better side, they finished higher than us on the ladder and we dont match up on them well. People were saying they had half a team out etc only beams and Pendelbry played against us when they beat us at AAMI. Fraser isnt a big game player and would have done sweet FA and Rocca was on one leg.

We also didnt have Bock, VB, Knights dont forget

[leftlegger]

why then do the crows lead these matches and loose. yes collingwood went one on one and what did we do flood 17 players back. show faith and back your players in. any way you cant keep losing finals when in command with out ? being asked. tell me who has a better side Crows or maggies

Maggies.
Always thought Crows would struggle against them in a final on the G.
But hey, they nearly pinched it.

[Gingernuts]

Craigys a good coach.
But fair call, if they dont deliver in the next 2 seasons, they should be targeting Malthouse.
IMHO he is the best in the business, and Buckley will be coaching the Pies.

Just putting it out there.

I agree with you there leftlegger. Craigy has 2 years left on his contract to deliver the goods (which I believe he will), but if he doesn't then it will be time for a change. I think even Craig would agree with this timeframe and would probably move on himself if he couldn't deliver success by then.

[bulldogs]

why then do the crows lead these matches and loose. yes collingwood went one on one and what did we do flood 17 players back. show faith and back your players in. any way you cant keep losing finals when in command with out ? being asked. tell me who has a better side Crows or maggies

5 goals up in the first half is nothing in todays football.... Collingwood looked like they would run away with it in the 3rd and we rallied and looked like we had it but in the end the luck didnt go our way!

We used players loose in defence against Hawthorn when they came back at us at AAAMI and it worked we also used it against Essendon in the first half. You will find every side plays players behind the ball at some stage of a match.

Yes we were in command and collingwood are a good side and were always going to come back at us.

Collingwood have a better side, they finished higher than us on the ladder and we dont match up on them well. People were saying they had half a team out etc only beams and Pendelbry played against us when they beat us at AAMI. Fraser isnt a big game player and would have done sweet FA and Rocca was on one leg.

We also didnt have Bock, VB, Knights dont forget

some points takn. bock and knights going down did hurt. 5 goals up is still a bit even in this day and age especially when 12 goals won the game. should of been 10 goals up. heard blight say during the 2nd 1/4 crows are 24 pts up but it feels like 14 goals. gotta take the oppurtunityswhen they are there.

[Footy Smart]

why then do the crows lead these matches and loose. yes collingwood went one on one and what did we do flood 17 players back. show faith and back your players in. any way you cant keep losing finals when in command with out ? being asked. tell me who has a better side Crows or maggies

5 goals up in the first half is nothing in todays football.... Collingwood looked like they would run away with it in the 3rd and we rallied and looked like we had it but in the end the luck didnt go our way!

We used players loose in defence against Hawthorn when they came back at us at AAAMI and it worked we also used it against Essendon in the first half. You will find every side plays players behind the ball at some stage of a match.

Yes we were in command and collingwood are a good side and were always going to come back at us.

Collingwood have a better side, they finished higher than us on the ladder and we dont match up on them well. People were saying they had half a team out etc only beams and Pendelbry played against us when they beat us at AAMI. Fraser isnt a big game player and would have done sweet FA and Rocca was on one leg.

We also didnt have Bock, VB, Knights dont forget

some points takn. bock and knights going down did hurt. 5 goals up is still a bit even in this ady and age especially when 12 goals won the game. should of been 10 goals up. heard blight say during the 2nd 1/4 crows are 24 pts up but it feels like 14 goals. gotta take the oppurtunityswhen they are there.

certainly do have to take your opportunities Bully,but i cant see how its the coaches fault if the players dont execute their skills properly. I think Craig has taken massive steps this year as far as the game plan and this plan will win us finals!!!!

[bulldogs]

ok done deal. i agree in part but as per footy players finals speak very loud when being judged. go you modbury hawks SJ is a legend

[Footy Smart]

ok done deal. i agree in part but as per footy players finals speak very loud when being judged. go you modbury hawks SJ is a legend

Agreed we have to win finals but the buck doesnt just stop with the coach the players must execute the skills under pressure and that will come, significant improvement can be seen from last years finals performance IMO and were were only 50 seonds away from playing Geelong

[am Bays]

P!ss funny email from a Collingwood friend of mine in Victoria:

what was that bloke doing holding Jack's arm? if he let him go the ball would have just bounced off his head anyway...

[Choccies]

Every year 15 teams fail in the finals so I cant see what all the discussion is about really....

[Psyber]

Our game plan was working perfectly and the coaching staff had done there job.... in the second quarter we went inside 50 like a bunch of under 15's bombing long and missing targets., we should have been 10 goals up at half time. In the second half Collingwood came out and beat us 1 on 1..... the coach cannot do anything about that its the players who have to beat their opponent then! in the end we lost with the last kick of the game
Thats football

I agree - I got the impression last week's success, and a good first quarter, had made them overconfident in relying on Tippett and Burton to take the hard marks rather working to deliver the ball well as they had done in the first quarter. Then they lost the momentum and gave Collingwood some confidence. They also need more practice at dealing with teams that man up...

The other poster that is right that NC's position would have to be reviewed when his contract is up in 2 years, certainly so if there has not been a premiership, but I think any replacement would have to be of a younger generation - not Malthouse or Sheedy etc.

[Zorro]

Our game plan was working perfectly and the coaching staff had done there job.... in the second quarter we went inside 50 like a bunch of under 15's bombing long and missing targets., we should have been 10 goals up at half time. In the second half Collingwood came out and beat us 1 on 1..... the coach cannot do anything about that its the players who have to beat their opponent then! in the end we lost with the last kick of the game
Thats football

I agree - I got the impression last week's success, and a good first quarter, had made them overconfident in relying on Tippett and Burton to take the hard marks rather working to deliver the ball well as they had done in the first quarter. Then they lost the momentum and gave Collingwood some confidence. They also need more practice at dealing with teams that man up...

The other poster that is right that NC's position would have to be reviewed when his contract is up in 2 years, certainly so if there has not been a premiership, but I think any replacement would have to be of a younger generation - not Malthouse or Sheedy etc.

Forget Sheedy, but Malthouse would still be a great coach to have in 2 years time IMO, not that I'm bagging NC. I thought his Collingwood contract was for 5yrs though, not for 2yrs, even though a change in role after 2yrs.

[the big bang]

Every year 15 teams fail in the finals so I cant see what all the discussion is about really....

spot on choccies. if, as is expected, it's a Cats v Saints GF, will the supporters of the losing club be calling for their coaches head because they "choked"?