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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby drebin » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:22 am

Aerie wrote:. Bock would make White look like the failure of an AFL player he was and it would allow McGregor to be used wherever we need him.


Hmm - White an AFL failure, what does that make McGregor then? White will probably play at CHB if fit. With Stewart and Gill at FF and FP I would suspect that Alleway might sneak in to CHF - that's right not like he hasn't played their all year! :roll:

If Bock lines up at CHB as expected then he should be able to bring an arm chair out and have a rest on Alleway as he hasn't even played an AFL game unlike the failed career of White so Bocky should have an easy day dominating in the SANFL then.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:03 am

Barto wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Saturday afternoon is for footy. Sunday is for hangovers. :evil:



drink right through to sunday.


Finally a constructive idea! Will do!

PS Anyone know who the Eagles are playing on Sunay? I assume they're already into the Grand Final reading SAFooty. :?
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby FlyingHigh » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:31 am

If the Crows get knocked out Saturday night, is Bock still eligible to play? Or does it go by the fact that these were the teams picked for this weekend?
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby dedja » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:52 am

FlyingHigh wrote:If the Crows get knocked out Saturday night, is Bock still eligible to play? Or does it go by the fact that these were the teams picked for this weekend?


Bock can only play for the Eagles after the Crows' season has finished if he has quailified by the 3 match rule. Considering he hasn't worn the Eagles quernsey for a number of years then the answer is no, once the Crows are finished, Bock cannot play for the Eagles ... I think? :-s
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby mal » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:58 am

Mr Fuller wrote:I hope Bock doesn't play for us and if he does he should be put into the reserves.

He hasn't played for us for a while and wouldn't know anyone in the team barring a few of the older guys and some former crows. It will take him a while to adjust. That and the fact that he never really played a good game for the eagles due to his poor judgement, unpredicatability and poor disposal skills.....but that was about 3 years ago.

Anyway the Crows would just be using us for a testing ground. He could well break down in the first quarter. If the Crows assess him as 'not quite right' to resume due to injury concerns then the Eagles should do the same also. We should not be playing anyone who isn't 100% fit.


Mr Fuller is 125% right


Once again The Woodville West Torrens rehab centre is being 'used' by the Adelaide Crows


Also
Will he wont he ?
IF
AC wins V CO he can play for WWT
AC loses to CO he cannot play for WWT

Absolute degradation and mocking of the SANFL once again with an unfathomable ruling

Also
Had BOCK played his 3 games this year and AC were out of the finals race
I WOULD BET MY HOUSE THE CROWS WOULD NOT ALLOW BOCK TO PLAY
You know the usual needs an operation ...

FFS The WWT club is trying to prepare for thier biggest day of their year to date and should not be put thru this bullcrapp
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby dedja » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:09 am

mal wrote:FFS The WWT club is trying to prepare for thier biggest day of their year to date and should not be put thru this bullcrapp


The solution is simple ...the Eagles they have it in their control to tell the Crows to get nicked and play or not play Bock how they choose if he is available \:D/
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby Big Phil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:11 am

mal wrote:
Mr Fuller wrote:I hope Bock doesn't play for us and if he does he should be put into the reserves.

He hasn't played for us for a while and wouldn't know anyone in the team barring a few of the older guys and some former crows. It will take him a while to adjust. That and the fact that he never really played a good game for the eagles due to his poor judgement, unpredicatability and poor disposal skills.....but that was about 3 years ago.

Anyway the Crows would just be using us for a testing ground. He could well break down in the first quarter. If the Crows assess him as 'not quite right' to resume due to injury concerns then the Eagles should do the same also. We should not be playing anyone who isn't 100% fit.


Mr Fuller is 125% right


Once again The Woodville West Torrens rehab centre is being 'used' by the Adelaide Crows


Also
Will he wont he ?
IF
AC wins V CO he can play for WWT
AC loses to CO he cannot play for WWT

Absolute degradation and mocking of the SANFL once again with an unfathomable ruling

Also
Had BOCK played his 3 games this year and AC were out of the finals race
I WOULD BET MY HOUSE THE CROWS WOULD NOT ALLOW BOCK TO PLAY
You know the usual needs an operation ...

FFS The WWT club is trying to prepare for thier biggest day of their year to date and should not be put thru this bullcrapp



If he doesn't play for the Crows, he wouldn't be able to play for the Eagles reservrs this week as they finished Minor Premier in the seconds so have the luxury of a week off this weekend.

Valid points posted by Mal (and others) but let's not forget that IF the Crows don't win then it is curtains on their season and Bock will not be needed to have a run in the SANFL. Ron Fuller would have a back up plan for both situations, with the Crows playing Saturday night, before the Eagles on Sunday, he will know the night before whether Bock is in his selection mix or not.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby Big Phil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:22 am

An article posted on the SANFL web site this morning, written by the Advertiser's Daniel Brettig...


Link - http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/949/


Daniel Brettig @ The Advertiser wrote:Crows may send Nathan Bock to SANFL Eagles


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Adelaide is flirting with the idea of playing key defender Nathan Bock in the SANFL this weekend in a bid to build match fitness.

Bock has not turned out for his local club Woodville-West Torrens since 2006, but is eligible to play for the Eagles in the local league finals so long as Adelaide remain in the race to the grand final.

Having not played any football since he pulled up lame with a heel fracture against Geelong in round 18, Bock is an outside chance of returning against Collingwood on Saturday night.

But Adelaide football operations manager John Reid said Bock would have to train the house down to be chosen.

Nathan van Berlo (back) and Robert Shirley (hamstring) are stronger chances to squeeze their way into the team, Reid said.

``Nathan (Bock) is still a day-by- day proposition and we're at the stage now where you do have to debate taking someone in who hasn't played (for six weeks) where two weeks ago you would've said he'd be straight back into the team,'' Reid said on Tuesday.

``It may well be a situation where the selectors decide that from a touch and fitness perspective Nathan doesn't make the side.

``If he didn't make our team we'd certainly want him to play somewhere.

``He'd certainly have to train extremely well to convince the selectors.''

Reid said the Crows would be reluctant to field any player who was not 100 per cent fit.

``Over the last two or three weeks we've taken in sides with all fit players,'' Reid said.

``When you start to take one, two or three (questionable) players history's shown it can catch you out.

``We won't be leaving the decisions on Bock and van Berlo until Friday.

``The coaches will make their decisions earlier than that because we won't be taking players into the game that are a big risk.''

The Crows are wary of a the strong opposition they will face from a reactionary Collingwood unit.

The Magpies famously produce a fighting performance the week after a loss.

``They've got a good rebound history, Mick (Malthouse) is a great one for that,'' Reid said.

``It started straight after the game, he named three or four players who didn't perform, so he started to point the finger there.

``That's how they go about their business and it doesn't make it easy, but at the end of the day it'll be as much if not more about how we go about our business.

``But they're a proud footy club, they will rebound and their history does say that.''
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby dedja » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:31 am

Big Phil wrote:If he doesn't play for the Crows, he wouldn't be able to play for the Eagles reservrs this week as they finished Minor Premier in the seconds so have the luxury of a week off this weekend.


So does he play for Port reserves then (as the lowest ranked finalist)??? :-s ;)

As I stated earlier, the Eagles should have the guts to do what they think is right for them.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:28 am

Geez there are some absolute morons commenting on Adelaide now about this. Here is just one example:

AdelaideNow wrote:Players can play in their SANFL sides while the Crows remain in the finals. I heard the Eagles are not willing to play him unless the Crows allow him to play the full match. What a joke, the feeder league teams should have zero say, if the Crows want him to have a run for a half, even a quarter they should be forced to play him. If not they should lose some of the money we donate to the SANFL teams each year. Same goes for SANFL teams playing AFL players at reserves level, should be up to the Power and the Crows.

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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby wycbloods » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:31 am

rod_rooster wrote:Geez there are some absolute morons commenting on Adelaide now about this. Here is just one example:

AdelaideNow wrote:Players can play in their SANFL sides while the Crows remain in the finals. I heard the Eagles are not willing to play him unless the Crows allow him to play the full match. What a joke, the feeder league teams should have zero say, if the Crows want him to have a run for a half, even a quarter they should be forced to play him. If not they should lose some of the money we donate to the SANFL teams each year. Same goes for SANFL teams playing AFL players at reserves level, should be up to the Power and the Crows.

Posted by: kyle of adelaide 8:28pm September 08, 2009
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LMFAO.


Obviously a very well educated football person.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby whufc » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:34 am

wycbloods wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:Geez there are some absolute morons commenting on Adelaide now about this. Here is just one example:

AdelaideNow wrote:Players can play in their SANFL sides while the Crows remain in the finals. I heard the Eagles are not willing to play him unless the Crows allow him to play the full match. What a joke, the feeder league teams should have zero say, if the Crows want him to have a run for a half, even a quarter they should be forced to play him. If not they should lose some of the money we donate to the SANFL teams each year. Same goes for SANFL teams playing AFL players at reserves level, should be up to the Power and the Crows.

Posted by: kyle of adelaide 8:28pm September 08, 2009
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LMFAO.


Obviously a very well educated football person.


Unfortunatley i think this is how alot of people view the SANFL, obvioulsy us die hards who post on SANFL forums won't agree but i think the majority of Crows supporters who go to games at AAMI see the SANFL as a feeder for their players.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby spell_check » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:40 pm

spell_check wrote:If those four players played, the side could look like this:

F: Goldsworthy Salter Polec
HF: McGregor Grocke Rimington
C: Jarrad Powell Allmond
HB: Petrenko Bock Stewart
B: P.Fiacchi Hier Broadbent
R: Dabrowski McKenzie Cicolella
Int (From): Passador Miles Rimington Symmons Treeby

14 out of the 23 there are local players, 2 are from other SANFL clubs and 7 interstate players.


Anyway, if Bock does not play, the side could be like this:

F: Goldsworthy Salter Polec
HF: Symmons Grocke Rimington
C: Jarrad Powell Allmond
HB: Petrenko McGregor Stewart
B: P.Fiacchi Hier Broadbent
R: Dabrowski McKenzie Cicolella
Int (From): Passador Miles Rimington Treeby

Simply, McGregor back to CHB and Symmons to the half forward line.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby spell_check » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:24 pm

Big Phil wrote:
mal wrote:
Mr Fuller wrote:I hope Bock doesn't play for us and if he does he should be put into the reserves.

He hasn't played for us for a while and wouldn't know anyone in the team barring a few of the older guys and some former crows. It will take him a while to adjust. That and the fact that he never really played a good game for the eagles due to his poor judgement, unpredicatability and poor disposal skills.....but that was about 3 years ago.

Anyway the Crows would just be using us for a testing ground. He could well break down in the first quarter. If the Crows assess him as 'not quite right' to resume due to injury concerns then the Eagles should do the same also. We should not be playing anyone who isn't 100% fit.


Mr Fuller is 125% right


Once again The Woodville West Torrens rehab centre is being 'used' by the Adelaide Crows


Also
Will he wont he ?
IF
AC wins V CO he can play for WWT
AC loses to CO he cannot play for WWT

Absolute degradation and mocking of the SANFL once again with an unfathomable ruling

Also
Had BOCK played his 3 games this year and AC were out of the finals race
I WOULD BET MY HOUSE THE CROWS WOULD NOT ALLOW BOCK TO PLAY
You know the usual needs an operation ...

FFS The WWT club is trying to prepare for thier biggest day of their year to date and should not be put thru this bullcrapp



If he doesn't play for the Crows, he wouldn't be able to play for the Eagles reservrs this week as they finished Minor Premier in the seconds so have the luxury of a week off this weekend.

Valid points posted by Mal (and others) but let's not forget that IF the Crows don't win then it is curtains on their season and Bock will not be needed to have a run in the SANFL. Ron Fuller would have a back up plan for both situations, with the Crows playing Saturday night, before the Eagles on Sunday, he will know the night before whether Bock is in his selection mix or not.


Ron would have been in this position many times before, and I would hope in this instance if Bock were to play, that Ron should say to the Crows if he is fit, he will play the whole match and nothing less.

Stuff the feeder club shite, we are playing to win a final here. There are 18 players in that 23 who are not on an AFL list. They trained the whole year for the club only, and they should not be made to feel like they are pawns to accommodate for sides they don't even play for.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby the joker » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:11 pm

Roosters tom play a quick moving game on the wide open spaces at AAMI.

Roosters by 21, to play Sturt next week.

i Think who ever wins out of North and the Eagles will Knock Sturt Straight out..
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby the joker » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:19 pm

Bock was not Selected by the crows and he will also not play for the Eagles
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby holden78 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:56 pm

You are absolutely right ofcoarse , but we are obliged to look after the Candys as they hold rather large purse strings unfortunately . Look I really dont buy that he will play , its a media tease up .
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Mr Fuller wrote:I hope Bock doesn't play for us and if he does he should be put into the reserves.

He hasn't played for us for a while and wouldn't know anyone in the team barring a few of the older guys and some former crows. It will take him a while to adjust. That and the fact that he never really played a good game for the eagles due to his poor judgement, unpredicatability and poor disposal skills.....but that was about 3 years ago.

Anyway the Crows would just be using us for a testing ground. He could well break down in the first quarter. If the Crows assess him as 'not quite right' to resume due to injury concerns then the Eagles should do the same also. We should not be playing anyone who isn't 100% fit.


Mr Fuller is 125% right


Once again The Woodville West Torrens rehab centre is being 'used' by the Adelaide Crows


Also
Will he wont he ?
IF
AC wins V CO he can play for WWT
AC loses to CO he cannot play for WWT

Absolute degradation and mocking of the SANFL once again with an unfathomable ruling

Also
Had BOCK played his 3 games this year and AC were out of the finals race
I WOULD BET MY HOUSE THE CROWS WOULD NOT ALLOW BOCK TO PLAY
You know the usual needs an operation ...

FFS The WWT club is trying to prepare for thier biggest day of their year to date and should not be put thru this bullcrapp
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby locky801 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:13 pm

The North side, glaring player missing, captain Damon White

Stewart Gill Younie

Pfeiffer Alleway Tapscott

Stribling Allan Ryswyk

Clarke Gallman Delvins

T Armstrong Davis Cunningham

Ruck
Ackland Sloane Archard

Interchange
Craig K Thompson Thring

Thiele
IN
K Thompson - Last played League in Rnd 20

Thiele - Last played League in Rnd 21

OUT
O'Brien - Omitted
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby spell_check » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:19 pm

And the Eagles side selected is:

F Passador Salter Fairclough
HF Symmons Grocke Treeby
C Allmond McKenzie Jarrad
HB Rimington McGregor Powell
B Petrenko Stewart P Fiacchi
Ruck Dabrowski Broadbent Cicolella
Int (From) Miles Daniel Corbett
J Polec Goldsworthy

In: Stewart, Salter, Broadbent, Corbett
Out: Hier, Smith (Omitted)

Is anyone surprised at Hier being omitted? And I'm not sure if that means that Bock won't play for sure, or that side is pending if the Crows win.
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Re: Elimination Final: Eagles vs North Adelaide @ Football Park

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:20 pm

Eagles Team:

F Passador Salter Fairclough
HF Symmons Grocke Treeby
C Allmond McKenzie Jarrad
HB Rimington McGregor Powell
B Petrenko Stewart P Fiacchi
Ruck Dabrowski Broadbent Cicolella
Int Miles Daniel Corbett
J Polec Goldsworthy

Broadbent, Salter and Stewart all named.
Ommitted: Hier :evil: , Smith
Interesting they have named a squad of 23, even though not waiting on Power or Crows selections.
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