You better ******* retire you ******* weak ****

[Rik E Boy]

Apparently that is what the small man said to Horsehead

Hutchy's favourite word too- apparently.

Apparently you have an axe to grind with the hawks- understandable REBmeister.

Apparently? Appawahhhhently?, use your worlds Clarko!! And moi, with an axe to grind? Surely not, after all I'm a well known Essendon lover Mattee. . Besides, you don't have to be a Cat fan to hate the Hawks, now everyone does.

regards,

REB

[Stumps]

good on clarkson i say... . Sticks and stones they used to say. Not a huge deal IMO

[interested observer]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

Exactly...
Get back some real footy....

[southee]

Apparently that is what the small man said to Horsehead when he came off the field. Honestly Clarko, you are a first class knob jockey. And fancy Bateman getting one when Lloyd got four. Ridiculous. Looked at the replay of the Bateman coathanger and can't believe he copped just the one match for that. Didn't even pretend to look at the ball the little weasel.

regards,

REB

Agree, as a Hawthorn supporter that is just unprofessional and embarrassing.....pathetic really.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

The lead up to the 1984 2nd Semi Final.

Kevin Sheedy reports the Hawks for inhaling illegal substances during matches ... it was in fact a mixture of smelling salts and eucalyptus to clear their heads after a heavy knock.

As usual, space cadet Sheedy puts 2 and 2 together and gets 389, so action was taken. The Hawks role up to practice only to be met by the drug squad ordering players to give urine samples.

It was a deliberate attempt to undermine Hawthorn's finals campaign, and Sheedy's name has been mud at Hawthorn ever since. No doubt people will argue, because they always do when I post, but THAT is how it started.

[Adelaide Hawk]

And fancy Bateman getting one when Lloyd got four. Ridiculous.

Well, let's see if you can get over your Hawthorn phobia for a moment and think about it, shall we? Bateman knocked Lloyd to the ground, no injury, player got up and played on. Lloyd put Sewell in hospital with serious facial injuries.

Worked it out yet, or won't your hatred of Hawthorn allow you to talk anything else but crap?

[spell_check]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

It could always be a fizzer though, like in 2001 when the return match of the Bulldogs and Richmond - everyone was expecting Libba to be targeted and the subsequent fracas to happen but nothing did.

[stan]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

It could always be a fizzer though, like in 2001 when the return match of the Bulldogs and Richmond - everyone was expecting Libba to be targeted and the subsequent fracas to happen but nothing did.

Yeah Lloyd will be out with a hammie and Brown will be out with a different injury.

[Dutchy]

Apparently that is what the small man said to Horsehead when he came off the field. Honestly Clarko, you are a first class knob jockey. And fancy Bateman getting one when Lloyd got four. Ridiculous. Looked at the replay of the Bateman coathanger and can't believe he copped just the one match for that. Didn't even pretend to look at the ball the little weasel.

regards,

REB

Seriously does this worry you? Can i ask if you have ever played the game? This stuff happens every 5 minutes on the footy field....

[dedja]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

The lead up to the 1984 2nd Semi Final.

Kevin Sheedy reports the Hawks for inhaling illegal substances during matches ... it was in fact a mixture of smelling salts and eucalyptus to clear their heads after a heavy knock.

As usual, space cadet Sheedy puts 2 and 2 together and gets 389, so action was taken. The Hawks role up to practice only to be met by the drug squad ordering players to give urine samples.

It was a deliberate attempt to undermine Hawthorn's finals campaign, and Sheedy's name has been mud at Hawthorn ever since. No doubt people will argue, because they always do when I post, but THAT is how it started.

It certainly doesn't surprise me if the rivalry started in the early '80s ... in fact it makes perfect sense considering they battled the '83-'85 GFs.

[spell_check]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

It could always be a fizzer though, like in 2001 when the return match of the Bulldogs and Richmond - everyone was expecting Libba to be targeted and the subsequent fracas to happen but nothing did.

Yeah Lloyd will be out with a hammie and Brown will be out with a different injury.

Liberatore and Knights both played in that match in 2001, but I think your scenario will probably eventuate. Very feasible.

[am Bays]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

The lead up to the 1984 2nd Semi Final.

Kevin Sheedy reports the Hawks for inhaling illegal substances during matches ... it was in fact a mixture of smelling salts and eucalyptus to clear their heads after a heavy knock.

As usual, space cadet Sheedy puts 2 and 2 together and gets 389, so action was taken. The Hawks role up to practice only to be met by the drug squad ordering players to give urine samples.

It was a deliberate attempt to undermine Hawthorn's finals campaign, and Sheedy's name has been mud at Hawthorn ever since. No doubt people will argue, because they always do when I post, but THAT is how it started.

How does that explain the 1983 GF brawl??? Best one I've seen, better than Carlton Richmond in 1982 and Ess Coll 1990. Personally I think it started when Leigh Matthews vandalised (broke) the behind post at Windy Hill.

[JK]

I don't know who started it, who's right or wrong, who's guilty or innocent ... all I know is that when the Hawks and the Bombers play next year make sure you have your deck chair and an esky full of cold beer ready, sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

The lead up to the 1984 2nd Semi Final.

Kevin Sheedy reports the Hawks for inhaling illegal substances during matches ... it was in fact a mixture of smelling salts and eucalyptus to clear their heads after a heavy knock.

As usual, space cadet Sheedy puts 2 and 2 together and gets 389, so action was taken. The Hawks role up to practice only to be met by the drug squad ordering players to give urine samples.

It was a deliberate attempt to undermine Hawthorn's finals campaign, and Sheedy's name has been mud at Hawthorn ever since. No doubt people will argue, because they always do when I post, but THAT is how it started.

How does that explain the 1983 GF brawl??? Best one I've seen, better than Carlton Richmond in 1982 and Ess Coll 1990. Personally I think it started when Leigh Matthews vandalised (broke) the behind post at Windy Hill.

Reckon you're thinking of the 1985 all-in mate

[spell_check]

And by the way, I am prepared to be shot down in flames here by the Hawthorn contingent, but I can't honestly see how there is anything wrong with that bump apart from the fact it was head contact. There was no raising of the arm, no elbow, no deviation from Lloyd. It really should have been a free kick and that's it, but this is 2009 AFL and not 1989 VFL.

Fire away boys.

[scoob]

And by the way, I am prepared to be shot down in flames here by the Hawthorn contingent, but I can't honestly see how there is anything wrong with that bump apart from the fact it was head contact. There was no raising of the arm, no elbow, no deviation from Lloyd. It really should have been a free kick and that's it, but this is 2009 AFL and not 1989 VFL.

Fire away boys.

Completely agree spelly - high contact thats all... didnt leave the ground to get him high... bring back the old days, when a smoke was a smoke and grooving was grooving...

[Jimmy_041]

I agree Spelly

[Wedgie]

Apparently that is what the small man said to Horsehead when he came off the field. Honestly Clarko, you are a first class knob jockey. And fancy Bateman getting one when Lloyd got four. Ridiculous. Looked at the replay of the Bateman coathanger and can't believe he copped just the one match for that. Didn't even pretend to look at the ball the little weasel.

regards,

REB

Seriously does this worry you? Can i ask if you have ever played the game? This stuff happens every 5 minutes on the footy field....

Coaches say that to opposition players every 5 minutes on the footy field? And after the game's finished?
Didn't happen once in the 50 games I played let alone every 5 minutes!

[Dutchy]

Apparently that is what the small man said to Horsehead when he came off the field. Honestly Clarko, you are a first class knob jockey. And fancy Bateman getting one when Lloyd got four. Ridiculous. Looked at the replay of the Bateman coathanger and can't believe he copped just the one match for that. Didn't even pretend to look at the ball the little weasel.

regards,

REB

Seriously does this worry you? Can i ask if you have ever played the game? This stuff happens every 5 minutes on the footy field....

Coaches say that to opposition players every 5 minutes on the footy field? And after the game's finished?
Didn't happen once in the 50 games I played let alone every 5 minutes!

No not coaches but I dont think it matters, need a thick skin to play footy

[Psyber]

I never did quite understand why bash and crash - especially behind the play, from behind, or when the opponent doesn't have possession - was seen by some people as good or "real" football and "courageous". The only "skill" involved is mindless brutality used to stop a more talented opponent when he is least focused on protecting himself.
That game may as well be Thugby, or Grid-Iron with all that protective gear.

I'm all for the AFL cleaning it up and letting ball handling skills become more important and dominant.
I'd make the minimum suspension for that sort of thing 4 matches, and have a send-off rule!
[I'd reached that conclusion by the time I was 12, and decided to play Hockey.]

[Hondo]

And by the way, I am prepared to be shot down in flames here by the Hawthorn contingent, but I can't honestly see how there is anything wrong with that bump apart from the fact it was head contact. There was no raising of the arm, no elbow, no deviation from Lloyd. It really should have been a free kick and that's it, but this is 2009 AFL and not 1989 VFL.

Fire away boys.

The thing is that the Hawthorn players and their coach don't agree with you. They feel he deliberately sniped.

I think that's played a big part in whipping up their fans.

They clearly felt there was more intent there than you felt there was. Are the closer to the action and could tell or are they just reacting emotionally to an accident? Dunno ....