RD 22 West v North Match Review

[drebin]

I've been reluctant to contribute about this game, for obvious reasons, but some things can't be ignored. I'm not sure what game you were watching, drebin, but I presume you thought Ferguson was playing on Alleway all day. Incorrect. Alleway was on Webb in the first half and played extremely well. Ferguson was the player who went to him after half-time. Alleway's third quarter stats were 0-0-0.

That doesn't make Ferguson necessarily B.O.G, but at least Warren Partland knew who was playing on who. You also didn't know who was playing on Allan. Far from being tagged, he played on Bronik Davies, who had 28 possessions and according to you, was in West's best two players.

I thought Younie and Ryswyk were very good for North.

I've made no excuses for West. I'm happy with where we're at and looking forward to next year.

I hope you can reply in the spirit of this forum and leave the venom at home occasionally.

Well to respond in kind - Webb may have lined up on him at the Centre bounce but it was Ferguson who went to him straight away once the play went on so I'm not sure you are spot on there?. In any case Ferguson was not BOG, even you have to admit that.

Where did I say that Davies was not Allan's opponent? Clearly his instruction was to play wide of Allan however at stoppages there were other players from West applying "tagging tatics" against Allan as you would expect. Davies and Bricknell as I said were very good for West.

If you thought Ryswyk played well then you were at a different game. Watch the replay and tell me how many times his kicks went directly to West players (I think he only found a North player once all game) and how he could pin point the behind post when running into an open goal in the first quarter? Your point re Younie was spot on.

Hopefully West can build on this year's clear improvement and be a finalist next year as long as our streak continues against them and we finish higher!

[CENTURION]

I only watched until half time but up until then, is it Bronik? Davies was the best on ground by a street. What a find! Does he always play that well?

[redandblack]

Thanks for that, drebin, some good points there.

I agree that I wouldn't have had Ferguson as best on ground, but he was very, very good and I'm absolutely positive he didn't go to Alleway straight away after the first bounce. As for Ryswyk, that was only my opinion as a West supporter watching the North players closely, so I'll accept your judgement on that.

I'm looking forward to playing North again next year.

Centurion, Bronik Davies has been terrific this year and yes, he does usually play that well. He would have to be one of the best recruits this year.

[Bum Crack]

Does Ryan Bennett have a chance of being taken in the draft next year???

[bloods08]

Does Ryan Bennett have a chance of being taken in the draft next year???

I would doubt it. And Drebin, Webb was on Alleway for the whole first half and showed that he will never be a defender. Ferguson was on Alleway after that.

[CENTURION]

Also, I was impressed with Frank Thring, very determined & dogged.

[LBT]

Who heard Andy Collins' comments on the 5AA SANFL show last night?. I cant quote him verbatim but he was certainly not happy at some of the treatment dished out from senior North players...Sour grapes or just frustration?

[Wedgie]

I'm with Collins, North are bullies and thugs. Just look at how many suspensions they've had this year!

[bloods08]

Who heard Andy Collins' comments on the 5AA SANFL show last night?. I cant quote him verbatim but he was certainly not happy at some of the treatment dished out from senior North players...Sour grapes or just frustration?

Didnt hear the comments but I would say he is frustrated as I certaintly was and probably still am.

[LBT]

I'm with Collins, North are bullies and thugs. Just look at how many suspensions they've had this year!

He quietened down when his ex-Box hill captain Alleway was getting interviewed, didnt want to upset him!

[Wedgie]

I'm with Collins, North are bullies and thugs. Just look at how many suspensions they've had this year!

He quietened down when his ex-Box hill captain Alleway was getting interviewed, didnt want to upset him!

Lucky too as who knows what Alleway would have been capable of! He's out of control!

[drebin]

Who heard Andy Collins' comments on the 5AA SANFL show last night?. I cant quote him verbatim but he was certainly not happy at some of the treatment dished out from senior North players...Sour grapes or just frustration?

Sour grapes and a very poor loser attitude if what you say is correct. I would be curious as to which North "senior" players he refers to re dishing it out? Apart from Alleways slap that actually got him reported followed by his collision with Bricknell there wasn't too much other "aggressive" stuff out of the ordinary to be honest??? Surely he is not whinging about the tagging tatics used by Stribling on Ezard??? That couldn't be the case though as Stribling is hardly a "Senior" player?

And just for the record North were reduced to 18 fit players after half time (with 2 Senior Players off in White and O'Hara, Wright is still not classed as a Senior player but all 3 are hardly thugs) we had 6 teenagers in our side and 9 players with 20 games or less experience so who are these "thugs" that sooky Collins is complaining about???

Maybe he should try a game plan that doesn't involve putting his whole team behind centre and flooding if he wants to win? That is the third time he has tried that tactic against North for a good portion of all 3 games we have played this year and to think we North people complain about Healy's defensive / flooding game plan. Healy has nothing on Collins!

[Wedgie]

I reckon he was referring to 'Mad dog' Ryswyk who was out of control on Saturday.

[topsywaldron]

Did Collins think Mark Jeffries was still playing?

[redandblack]

Collins has been here two years now and this is the first time I've known him to comment on these things.

I think it's arguable that he and his players know better than most what happens on the field.

As for complaining, he's in good company after your comments on the last North v West game

"The only negative I will say about Wests tatics was their continual man handling, scragging and "dirty" off the ball treatment they handed out to Allan who despite that still racked up a myriad of possessions. Had some of the West players thought about maybe getting the football a bit more instead of employing dirty tagging tatics the possession count may have increaeed given you some more options to win the game other than North gifting you 5 goals."

I'm not having a go, because we all complain about other teams and I'm sure you could find similar quotes from me, but it would have taken a fair bit for Andy Collins to make the comments. Either way, I'm rapt with him as our Coach and look forward to future clashes with North with confidence.

[Wedgie]

I look forward to it r&b.
I still look back at the days of when West last beat North with fondness as none of us had heard of Guy Sebastian then.

[drebin]

Well Collins is not alone in having a crack at the Umpires - most coaches do at one time or another!

I can recall Jars giving them hell one day and getting fined as did McDermoot after a match at the Bay (The first time he and McGuiness coached against each other) and he copped a pretty hefty fine from memory. Not sure if Collins will face a fine but unless he was really abusive I think the coaches have a right to complain on occasions.

I do think his comments (as quoted by someone else as I didn't hear them myself) on 5AA yesterday are pretty poor though if correct.

He will be more annoyed to now knowing our number 1 "thug" from Saturday (Alleway) has had his report thrown out and rightly so!

As for West vs. North in 2010 - bring it on!

[CENTURION]

I look forward to it r&b.
I still look back at the days of when West last beat North with fondness as none of us had heard of Guy Sebastian then.

still haven't now!

[sjt]

I look forward to it r&b.
I still look back at the days of when West last beat North with fondness as none of us had heard of Guy Sebastian then.

still haven't now!

You just did.

[Wedgie]

I look forward to it r&b.
I still look back at the days of when West last beat North with fondness as none of us had heard of Guy Sebastian then.

still haven't now!

And probably one of the few benefits about not getting television or radio out north yet!