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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Trent Plucktrum » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:13 pm

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When was tyhe last time West beat doggies ??? Did you go to the game RR or are you one of those North fans that prefers to watch from afar ???


I was there UK Fan. Given i've missed only 13 games since i started going in 1987 it's probably unfair to suggest i prefer to watch from afar.

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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby UK Fan » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:36 pm

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UK Fan wrote:When was tyhe last time West beat doggies ??? Did you go to the game RR or are you one of those North fans that prefers to watch from afar ???


You made the point West struggle against Sturt, I think you'll find RR is trying to say they also struggle against North and relative form against other clubs is fairly irrelevent.
I could be wrong but I think the last time they beat us was 2003.
We haven't had close to having the wood over other clubs like we do over West (and most clubs have had up till now, min you West did make the finals in 04).



Fair point lets bring up Wests recent record with North and Sturt.

But ofcourse you need to completely ignore everybody elses record. Sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable North but West hadnt beaten Centrals since 2003 aswell. And had a worse record against us.And they beat us this year.

Im sorry but to suggest that West beating you is a stupid suggestion, after seeing how bad North were yesterday you either have rose colured glasses or are in denial.

Dont spit the dummy its just facts Im sharing and its just my opinion based West will beat you on what I saw from the North players yesterday.

Ofcourse we all stand to be corrected.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby UK Fan » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:38 pm

Trent Plucktrum wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
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When was tyhe last time West beat doggies ??? Did you go to the game RR or are you one of those North fans that prefers to watch from afar ???


I was there UK Fan. Given i've missed only 13 games since i started going in 1987 it's probably unfair to suggest i prefer to watch from afar.

Yep he's always there although his friends keep moving he still finds em !! ;)


I thought as much. He certainly sounds like a cocks fan though. :lol: :lol:
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Wedgie » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:00 pm

UK Fan wrote:Fair point lets bring up Wests recent record with North and Sturt.

But ofcourse you need to completely ignore everybody elses record. Sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable North but West hadnt beaten Centrals since 2003 aswell. And had a worse record against us.And they beat us.

Im sorry but to suggest that West beating you is a stupid suggestion,surely you must have seen how bad you were yesterday.

Dont spit the dummy its just a fact Im sharing and its just my opinion based on what I saw from the North players yesterday.

Ofcourse we all stand to be corrected.


Mate, you've gone off half cocked again, I think West will beat North at the next encounter. North are hopeless at the moment.

You missed the point, the point was you alluded to the fact that West getting smashed by Sturt didn't matter as Sturt had the wood on them, I was just saying using that theory then West will get beaten by North which personally I don't think will happen. I thought I was quite reserved in my comment and yet you've felt the need to be a smart arse in your reply when we are in fact on the same page.

With me now? :?

Just for the record I think Norwood will even beat North and the North v South game will be a blockbuster. North are a basket case at the moment and have been for quite a few weeks.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby UK Fan » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:14 pm

Wedgie wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Fair point lets bring up Wests recent record with North and Sturt.

But ofcourse you need to completely ignore everybody elses record. Sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable North but West hadnt beaten Centrals since 2003 aswell. And had a worse record against us.And they beat us.

Im sorry but to suggest that West beating you is a stupid suggestion,surely you must have seen how bad you were yesterday.

Dont spit the dummy its just a fact Im sharing and its just my opinion based on what I saw from the North players yesterday.

Ofcourse we all stand to be corrected.


Mate, you've gone off half cocked again, I think West will beat North at the next encounter. North are hopeless at the moment.

You missed the point, the point was you alluded to the fact that West getting smashed by Sturt didn't matter as Sturt had the wood on them, I was just saying using that theory then West will get beaten by North which personally I don't think will happen. I thought I was quite reserved in my comment and yet you've felt the need to be a smart arse in your reply when we are in fact on the same page.

With me now? :?

Just for the record I think Norwood will even beat North and the North v South game will be a blockbuster. North are a basket case at the moment and have been for quite a few weeks.




Nah mate I actaully backed up my point pretty clearly with the fact Centrals have the same record against West than North do. And being West beat us, its not inconceivable West could easily beat North is all Im trying to say.

I wasnt the one trying to dismiss that fact BTW.

Honestly Didnt think North fans would take exception over the statement as you have been saying how crap your team has been over the last month. And after what I saw yesterday I 100% agree.

From memory WHUFC said at the start of the year North would be crap .
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:55 pm

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When was tyhe last time West beat doggies ??? Did you go to the game RR or are you one of those North fans that prefers to watch from afar ???


I was there UK Fan. Given i've missed only 13 games since i started going in 1987 it's probably unfair to suggest i prefer to watch from afar.

Yep he's always there although his friends keep moving he still finds em !! ;)


I've got friends :? I'll have to get you to point them out to me on friday Trent :lol:
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Wedgie » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:45 pm

UK Fan wrote:Nah mate I actaully backed up my point pretty clearly with the fact Centrals have the same record against West than North do. And being West beat us, its not inconceivable West could easily beat North is all Im trying to say.

I wasnt the one trying to dismiss that fact BTW.

Honestly Didnt think North fans would take exception over the statement as you have been saying how crap your team has been over the last month. And after what I saw yesterday I 100% agree.

From memory WHUFC said at the start of the year North would be crap .


Crikey, that's the last time I'll ever agree with you! :?
I didn't take exception to it, I agreed with it, I just pointed out that your argument that Wests form against Sturt doesn't count is the same as saying West's form against North doesn't count.
It's not rocket science mate! You been smoking something? :?
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby whufc » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:56 pm

UK Fan wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Fair point lets bring up Wests recent record with North and Sturt.

But ofcourse you need to completely ignore everybody elses record. Sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable North but West hadnt beaten Centrals since 2003 aswell. And had a worse record against us.And they beat us.

Im sorry but to suggest that West beating you is a stupid suggestion,surely you must have seen how bad you were yesterday.

Dont spit the dummy its just a fact Im sharing and its just my opinion based on what I saw from the North players yesterday.

Ofcourse we all stand to be corrected.


Mate, you've gone off half cocked again, I think West will beat North at the next encounter. North are hopeless at the moment.

You missed the point, the point was you alluded to the fact that West getting smashed by Sturt didn't matter as Sturt had the wood on them, I was just saying using that theory then West will get beaten by North which personally I don't think will happen. I thought I was quite reserved in my comment and yet you've felt the need to be a smart arse in your reply when we are in fact on the same page.

With me now? :?

Just for the record I think Norwood will even beat North and the North v South game will be a blockbuster. North are a basket case at the moment and have been for quite a few weeks.




Nah mate I actaully backed up my point pretty clearly with the fact Centrals have the same record against West than North do. And being West beat us, its not inconceivable West could easily beat North is all Im trying to say.

I wasnt the one trying to dismiss that fact BTW.

Honestly Didnt think North fans would take exception over the statement as you have been saying how crap your team has been over the last month. And after what I saw yesterday I 100% agree.

From memory WHUFC said at the start of the year North would be crap .


Ha ha i did actually, i can't find the posts but i thought both North and Norwood despite there decents recruits hadn't actually gained anything due to losing other players and in Norwoods case most of their recruits had been playing at the club for a couple of years.

I think the funny part is North are in a far better statistical postion this season than they were last season yet from reading posts on here and the roost North people seem unhappier with performances this year. Is it because of the expected improvement which alot of North fans (not all) thought would happen straight away? Is that a fair reflection from an outsiders point of view?
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Wedgie » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:03 pm

whufc wrote:I think the funny part is North are in a far better statistical postion this season than they were last season yet from reading posts on here and the roost North people seem unhappier with performances this year. Is it because of the expected improvement which alot of North fans (not all) thought would happen straight away? Is that a fair reflection from an outsiders point of view?


Nah, not really, its more the frustration of seeing what they could do (against Sturt when they thumped them by 14 odd goals) but not seeing them do it consistently. Early in the year we had patience as we expected the new game plan to take a while to learn but the fact we get worse as the season gets longer is also frustrating.
Funnily we'd probably be happier if we hadn't demolished Sturt as then we wouldn't be aware of what we can do! :lol:
Its not even the shock from going an attacking style to a defensive style, the most annoying part is the backards/sideways rubbish that the AFL were playing with 5 years ago that we're trying to employ without the same skills as AFL players. At least 2 to 3 goals are given away each week from stupid little kicks in the backlines when a nice long thump like us oldies were brought up with would have avoided it.
As pointed out in the paper recently we've got a very young team compared to a club like Central, something like 3 or 4 average years difference which is almost unheard of.
We'll get there, I have confidence in Daniel Healy, he's done nothing but impress me and has been a refreshing change at the club.
Im personally am happier than I was this time last year in regard to North (less happy about the comp as a whole but that's a different matter) but I'll always call things as I see them which upsets some! :D

You also note that statistically we're in a better position than last year but that may not reflect where we're at, I agree with you as the whole comp has gone backwards this year, Im confident the side of last year would beat our side at the moment and they came 7th! But Central are starting to turn up the revs as they get closer to September, no suprises there. ;)
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Mic » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:11 pm

whufc wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
UK Fan wrote:Fair point lets bring up Wests recent record with North and Sturt.

But ofcourse you need to completely ignore everybody elses record. Sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable North but West hadnt beaten Centrals since 2003 aswell. And had a worse record against us.And they beat us.

Im sorry but to suggest that West beating you is a stupid suggestion,surely you must have seen how bad you were yesterday.

Dont spit the dummy its just a fact Im sharing and its just my opinion based on what I saw from the North players yesterday.

Ofcourse we all stand to be corrected.


Mate, you've gone off half cocked again, I think West will beat North at the next encounter. North are hopeless at the moment.

You missed the point, the point was you alluded to the fact that West getting smashed by Sturt didn't matter as Sturt had the wood on them, I was just saying using that theory then West will get beaten by North which personally I don't think will happen. I thought I was quite reserved in my comment and yet you've felt the need to be a smart arse in your reply when we are in fact on the same page.

With me now? :?

Just for the record I think Norwood will even beat North and the North v South game will be a blockbuster. North are a basket case at the moment and have been for quite a few weeks.




Nah mate I actaully backed up my point pretty clearly with the fact Centrals have the same record against West than North do. And being West beat us, its not inconceivable West could easily beat North is all Im trying to say.

I wasnt the one trying to dismiss that fact BTW.

Honestly Didnt think North fans would take exception over the statement as you have been saying how crap your team has been over the last month. And after what I saw yesterday I 100% agree.

From memory WHUFC said at the start of the year North would be crap .


Ha ha i did actually, i can't find the posts but i thought both North and Norwood despite there decents recruits hadn't actually gained anything due to losing other players and in Norwoods case most of their recruits had been playing at the club for a couple of years.

I think the funny part is North are in a far better statistical postion this season than they were last season yet from reading posts on here and the roost North people seem unhappier with performances this year. Is it because of the expected improvement which alot of North fans (not all) thought would happen straight away? Is that a fair reflection from an outsiders point of view?


Quite simply, North fans are unhappy because their team is playing like crap.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby NFC » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:03 am

North are a mess. They need to clean out a few players, starting with both Thompson boys.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby rod_rooster » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:19 am

NFC wrote:North are a mess. They need to clean out a few players, starting with both Thompson boys.


Bit harsh on Kriston i reckon. He can play and he has a crack. Much better player than his brother who is just a lazy bludger. It's a real shame because he does have talent. Wade just needs to remember it's not all about him. I think Ackland may have reminded him of that in no uncertain terms after Wade blazed away at goal from the boundary 50 out when Cain was free 15 metres out directly in front.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby dedja » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:24 am

NFC wrote:North are a mess. They need to clean out a few players, starting with both Thompson boys.


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You don't own a mirror then? :-s
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby NFC » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:35 am

rod_rooster wrote:
NFC wrote:North are a mess. They need to clean out a few players, starting with both Thompson boys.


Bit harsh on Kriston i reckon. He can play and he has a crack. Much better player than his brother who is just a lazy bludger. It's a real shame because he does have talent. Wade just needs to remember it's not all about him. I think Ackland may have reminded him of that in no uncertain terms after Wade blazed away at goal from the boundary 50 out when Cain was free 15 metres out directly in front.

Kriston... he's a mixed bag. I watched him play against Norwood a month or so back and his effort and workrate was terrible. However I've seen him have some good days where his chasing and effort has been good. Just inconsistent from week to week. Wade, well he perhaps bought into his own hype. Just doesn't want to work hard.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby drebin » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:08 am

NFC wrote:North are a mess. They need to clean out a few players, starting with both Thompson boys.


I agree and both Thompson boys are soft and lazy - the only difference is Wade is lazier than Kriston.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:55 pm

Despite Centrals dominance over North for the past 12-13 years or so, this is the first time since 2004 Centrals have had a clean sweep over North.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby o five » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:50 pm

Big clean out at North is needed as we have to many players who are not prepared to play the way Healy wants.
We need accountable and no nonsense footballers, not wide recievers who are more interested in the latest hair products. :oops:
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby whufc » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:39 pm

o five wrote:Big clean out at North is needed as we have to many players who are not prepared to play the way Healy wants.
We need accountable and no nonsense footballers, not wide recievers who are more interested in the latest hair products. :oops:


Is it a case of players not prepared to play the way he wants, or is Healy not getting his message across affectively. Or does he not have the players skillful enough to play to the game plan.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby o five » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:20 pm

whufc wrote:
o five wrote:Big clean out at North is needed as we have to many players who are not prepared to play the way Healy wants.
We need accountable and no nonsense footballers, not wide recievers who are more interested in the latest hair products. :oops:


Is it a case of players not prepared to play the way he wants, or is Healy not getting his message across affectively. Or does he not have the players skillful enough to play to the game plan.



I think some players in the league squad are not capable of playing the way Healy wants, they are mentally and some physically soft.
All a coach would want from his players, is an honest effort and some ain`t worth a pinch of salt at the moment. Saturday`s game while taking nothing away from Centrals was as weak as I have seen from North in a long time. :oops: :oops: :oops:
As I said, it`s time to show some of these weakest links the door if we are serious in the game plan which Daniel is trying to put in place.
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Re: RD20 North v Central Post Match Review

Postby CENTURION » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:31 pm

just as long as they don't poo on his desk as they leave! :lol:
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