Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:40 pm

mal wrote:DOWNGRADE RULE
Been reported by the 5rph boys that the downgrade rule starts in September.
That was a few weeks ago so I assume it will go ahead.
Downgrade rule is as follows.
If a horse has had 10 starts in a grade without winning it will get a downgrade to the next class down.
Seems to be a very logical practible ruling if it eventuates.
I think too many horses reach a class and stagnate there
Horses in good form get to grades like the C5/C6 races when at thier peak
Sometimes the horses never reproduce that peak form and are stuck in a grade

The downgrade system works very well at the Greyhounds
Dunno who instigated the downgrade system but its a goodun'
In my opinion the new trots downgrade is a good innovation.


TROTTERS V PACERS
Bayman has a golden rule
Always risk a trotter v the pacers
I declared one a while ago to beat the pacers and it went abyssMAL
Tonight we have R8-7 WrekcOgnize v the pacers
Has been placed v the pacers in the past
But gotta admit Bayman is right they are a risk
Wrekcognize is $5-50 in the press, I guess I would have to lay it on Betfair if below those odds


PORT PIRIE PREVIEW


BETFAIR CANT WINS [201]
R4-7
R5-2

RACE 2
1-4-8 Boxed quinellas/exactas/any2s

R6-2 TOP OF THE WAVE
Better than these, if driven adequately must be in the finish
EW

R6-1 LOADEDBELLE
Drawn perfectly and highly likely to be in the finish
PLACE




RESULTS
Betfair lays both lose [203]

r2 exotics win ...a2 $1-40...quin $4-40...ex $7-60 [some sMALl profits]

EW bet top of the wave ran 2nd paid $1-00 place
Place bet loadedbelle ran 1st paid $1-10
F...d that race up should have tipped the quin/a2/exacta

About even tonight
My apologies for the poor tipping

The trotter Wreckognize missed the drum, do they ever beat the pacers ?
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby cje » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:14 am

scd i admire your loyalty to your stable, however we as an industry need to be completly free of any performance enhancing substance no matter what it may be if your trainer was informed it was a legal substance by a steward he deserves time for incompetence as a steward is not a vet.
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby cje » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:21 am

mal an average trotter wouldnt beat a pacer however a star trotter can and has beaten good pacers.
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:18 pm

Saturday night GDP suggested bets

R3-4 WUNLASTCHANCE
Good name for a song ...
Must be driven aggresively for the front
If finds the front will be very hard to beat
If left in the death seat still has a hope although the [7] MCGINTYSMYGOAT has a hope to beat it
IF we got EW on WUNLASTCHANCE it would be a father xmas bet
WIN
Banker in QUINS/EXACTAS
SAVE ON EXACTA 7-4
Theres a few options there

OTHER RACES
R7-2 MADDEM if kept for wunlastchance at them run should be placed at worst = a hope of winning
R8-6 JONNYNDRY should work to the front and win


BETFAIR CANT WINS [203]
None tonight I think every horse in every race has some sort of concievable chance of winning



CJE
Good pholosophy on the trotters
And in this state they is usually no star trotters so we might not see a average trotter beating a pacer for quite a while
GAMMELL DANSK is a very good trotter, it raced vrs the pacers but cant remember if it won one ?
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby RichoRichoMan » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:37 pm

Maoris Idol beat the pacers in a Grand Circuit race in Qld
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby BEEJAY » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:55 pm

Yes mal he beat the pacers once you should know this being a form student
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:43 pm

span wrote:Yes mal he beat the pacers once you should know this being a form student


I am a form student, I very rarely bet on any trots races except SA
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:49 pm

mal wrote:Saturday night GDP suggested bets

R3-4 WUNLASTCHANCE
Good name for a song ...
Must be driven aggresively for the front
If finds the front will be very hard to beat
If left in the death seat still has a hope although the [7] MCGINTYSMYGOAT has a hope to beat it
IF we got EW on WUNLASTCHANCE it would be a father xmas bet
WIN
Banker in QUINS/EXACTAS
SAVE ON EXACTA 7-4
Theres a few options there

OTHER RACES
R7-2 MADDEM if kept for wunlastchance at them run should be placed at worst = a hope of winning
R8-6 JONNYNDRY should work to the front and win


BETFAIR CANT WINS [203]
None tonight I think every horse in every race has some sort of concievable chance of winning



CJE
Good pholosophy on the trotters
And in this state they is usually no star trotters so we might not see a average trotter beating a pacer for quite a while
GAMMELL DANSK is a very good trotter, it raced vrs the pacers but cant remember if it won one ?


Suggested bet
WUNLASTCHANCE
Ive backed this horse 3 times now and twice its been left behind[including tonights unplaced run]

Other bets
MADEMM
Usual run sprinted late for 4th
JONNYNDRY
Good effort sat outside TODAY and pipped it on the post

Bad tipping tonight
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby RichoRichoMan » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:16 pm

Sunday Tabcorp park Melton

Best bet of the day Race 9 no.1 Rohan Home.
Gave them a huge start after getting knocked down early in the Chariots of Fire and flew home late out wide to run fifth.

Race 4 no.7 Landscape place only
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:44 pm

GDP MONDAY
Even fields , no good things
Would luv to know how good R4-9 ELVIRA BROMAC is ?
If it has any talent it would be $1-50


CANT WINS
R6-8
R7-5

OTHER RACES COMMENTS
R1-8 ANOTHER BLU the SCD express has EW claims today and will win a race shortly
R2-9 SAFE OPPORTUNITY has EW claims
If we get about black odds the place either horse suggest have something on them

PUNTER OF THE LAST WEEK AWARD
TABSPORTSBET punter
SK 1 goal up so has $30,000 on at $1-05
SK 3 goals up so has another $20000 at $1-02

Loses $50k trying to win $1900
Kinda makes the LATE MAL look like value ....
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby centreman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:47 pm

We need a late Mal TODAY to get the weekend damage back!

Was waiting for your help Mal, but looks like we'll have to concede defeat!
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:55 pm

centreman wrote:We need a late Mal TODAY to get the weekend damage back!

Was waiting for your help Mal, but looks like we'll have to concede defeat!



Mate
The Late Mal is an exacting science
I only tip them when im absolutely positively sure they are genuine $1-10 favs

As for the weekend damage
I was humiliated, lambasted and ridiculed at AAMI staduim by LTP/ZAHOV + G for tipping WUNLASTCHANCE on the weekend, and quite rightly so

Having a downer tipping at the trots recently
I reckon im breaking even in the last few weeks
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby centreman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:58 pm

mal wrote:GDP MONDAY
Even fields , no good things
Would luv to know how good R4-9 ELVIRA BROMAC is ?
If it has any talent it would be $1-50


CANT WINS
R6-8
R7-5

OTHER RACES COMMENTS
R1-8 ANOTHER BLU the SCD express has EW claims today and will win a race shortly
R2-9 SAFE OPPORTUNITY has EW claims
If we get about black odds the place either horse suggest have something on them

PUNTER OF THE LAST WEEK AWARD
TABSPORTSBET punter
SK 1 goal up so has $30,000 on at $1-05
SK 3 goals up so has another $20000 at $1-02

Loses $50k trying to win $1900
Kinda makes the LATE MAL look like value ....



Mal i'd say looking at Elvira Bromacs form will start very short and if goes true to form should win. (very ordinary race, Many will die maidens)

Can't wins for me
Race 5 No.1
Race 6 No.6
Race 7 No.4

Mal can race 6 No.10 win?

My each way special for the Day Race 6 no.4

Good luck punters!!

Ps Mal some posters on another topic think LTP, G and centreman may be the same person can you comform this?
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby centreman » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:01 pm

Mal on your Wunlastchance Tip are you blaming the horse or driver?

There previous few drivers b4 saturday night had no worries getting the horse to score up.
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:15 pm

centreman wrote:
mal wrote:GDP MONDAY
Even fields , no good things
Would luv to know how good R4-9 ELVIRA BROMAC is ?
If it has any talent it would be $1-50


CANT WINS
R6-8
R7-5

OTHER RACES COMMENTS
R1-8 ANOTHER BLU the SCD express has EW claims today and will win a race shortly
R2-9 SAFE OPPORTUNITY has EW claims
If we get about black odds the place either horse suggest have something on them

PUNTER OF THE LAST WEEK AWARD
TABSPORTSBET punter
SK 1 goal up so has $30,000 on at $1-05
SK 3 goals up so has another $20000 at $1-02

Loses $50k trying to win $1900
Kinda makes the LATE MAL look like value ....



Mal i'd say looking at Elvira Bromacs form will start very short and if goes true to form should win. (very ordinary race, Many will die maidens)

Can't wins for me
Race 5 No.1
Race 6 No.6
Race 7 No.4

Mal can race 6 No.10 win?

My each way special for the Day Race 6 no.4

Good luck punters!!

Ps Mal some posters on another topic think LTP, G and centreman may be the same person can you comform this?


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Centreman

Those 3 are not the same people

R6-10 will prob run 5th
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby Zahov » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:25 pm

mal wrote:
centreman wrote:We need a late Mal TODAY to get the weekend damage back!

Was waiting for your help Mal, but looks like we'll have to concede defeat!



Mate
The Late Mal is an exacting science
I only tip them when im absolutely positively sure they are genuine $1-10 favs

As for the weekend damage
I was humiliated, lambasted and ridiculed at AAMI staduim by LTP/ZAHOV + G for tipping WUNLASTCHANCE on the weekend, and quite rightly so

Having a downer tipping at the trots recently
I reckon im breaking even in the last few weeks


thats right we were all there, and you copped everything you deserved for the poor tipping, and we gave ya WUNLASTCHANCE today and you come up with another blu? i didn't see the race, where did it come? i seen it didn't run in the first 3.

GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER by fridays meeting MAL,
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby mal » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:30 pm

mal wrote:GDP MONDAY
Even fields , no good things
Would luv to know how good R4-9 ELVIRA BROMAC is ?
If it has any talent it would be $1-50


CANT WINS
R6-8
R7-5

OTHER RACES COMMENTS
R1-8 ANOTHER BLU the SCD express has EW claims today and will win a race shortly
R2-9 SAFE OPPORTUNITY has EW claims
If we get about black odds the place either horse suggest have something on them

PUNTER OF THE LAST WEEK AWARD
TABSPORTSBET punter
SK 1 goal up so has $30,000 on at $1-05
SK 3 goals up so has another $20000 at $1-02

Loses $50k trying to win $1900
Kinda makes the LATE MAL look like value ....



CANT WINS [207]
ELVIRA BROMAC was far too good
The other commented selections missed a place [and can be construed as tips ]
Very poor tipping
BUT
I will bounce back by next week ZAHOV
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby loves to punt » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:44 pm

I saw the first at globe derby ANOTHER BLU ran super it got a good run threw early had a breif crack for the lead then took cover behind the winner terbah.Got beaten about 30mtrs and had BACK ME IN HEAVEN NEXT START written all over it.GIVE US A SPELL SCD. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby Zahov » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:54 pm

just to keep SCD up to date, i spoke to a couple of leading drivers, and one of the trainers involved, and they were told on good aurthority, that one of the trainers with a positive test handed a bottle to the stewards! and didn't think he was doing anything wrong!
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Re: Trots this week Aug 14-15-17 + downgrade rule

Postby RichoRichoMan » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:21 pm

Geoff Small recieved 2 years disqualification
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