GSFL Movements

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Genovese on Ellis.

[s m skinner]

umpires had a golf day yesterday and i was talking to the reporting field umpire , will be making a visit to the victor tribunal on tuesday night . I wont go into any detail but i would say that the willunga player may be in a bit of hot water but that also depends on the sitting members of the panel . From all accounts he should have a holiday .
As far as reading through the posts earlier about the GSFL and SFL i would umpire GSFL over SFL any day . Had cove on the weekend and no wonder their players abuse the umpires because their coach does the same but worse . Greg Anderson is a total knob , players are only following this clowns actions .

[teamwork]

umpires had a golf day yesterday and i was talking to the reporting field umpire , will be making a visit to the victor tribunal on tuesday night . I wont go into any detail but i would say that the willunga player may be in a bit of hot water but that also depends on the sitting members of the panel . From all accounts he should have a holiday .
As far as reading through the posts earlier about the GSFL and SFL i would umpire GSFL over SFL any day . Had cove on the weekend and no wonder their players abuse the umpires because their coach does the same but worse . Greg Anderson is a total knob , players are only following this clowns actions .

D&W you seen the incident first hand is it true that it looked worse than the Barry Hall 'King Hit'?? How many weeks can you see him getting??

[s m skinner]

LF who were the goolwa players sent off . Who was the creek player that is hanging his head low for his actions

[s m skinner]

D&W you seen the incident first hand is it true that it looked worse than the Barry Hall 'King Hit'?? How many weeks can you see him getting??[/quote]

Knowing the panel he will get 2-3 weeks but should be 6 weeks . If it happened in SFL he would get 6-8 weeks .

[dodgingandweaving]

umpires had a golf day yesterday and i was talking to the reporting field umpire , will be making a visit to the victor tribunal on tuesday night . I wont go into any detail but i would say that the willunga player may be in a bit of hot water but that also depends on the sitting members of the panel . From all accounts he should have a holiday .
As far as reading through the posts earlier about the GSFL and SFL i would umpire GSFL over SFL any day . Had cove on the weekend and no wonder their players abuse the umpires because their coach does the same but worse . Greg Anderson is a total knob , players are only following this clowns actions .

D&W you seen the incident first hand is it true that it looked worse than the Barry Hall 'King Hit'?? How many weeks can you see him getting??

Yes, it was. Didn't see it coming and collected him as flush as you could imagine. I was very surprised it was 'only' a broken jaw.
I'd hope he gets 6 at an absolute minimum, wouldn't surprise me if he received 8+. It was a disgrace.
Strath lose a key player for the rest of the year, dents their finals hopes considerably. How can you compensate that + the hopsital fees, etc. League should make a stand and make all aware that these types of acts are utterly unacceptable.
Knowing Willunga though, i'd say they'd deal with this accordingly behind doors whatever penalty is handed down. It's disappointing because he is one of their best players, just obviously not their fairest.

If he gets less than 5 that is a complete joke and the league should be ashamed.

[teamwork]

D&W you seen the incident first hand is it true that it looked worse than the Barry Hall 'King Hit'?? How many weeks can you see him getting??

Knowing the panel he will get 2-3 weeks but should be 6 weeks . If it happened in SFL he would get 6-8 weeks .[/quote]

A king hit thats broken a guys jaw behind play and may end up with legal action has to be worth more than that skinner. As a umpire it would be frusterating making a report for an incident such as this and then seeing them get off with minimum matches!!

[s m skinner]

absolutely TW , nothing wore than reporting a player for an act like this only for the tribunal not to back the umpire up . I understand innocent until proven guilty but when it is cut and dried like this youd expect him to get what he deserves

[dodgingandweaving]

Did the umpire see it? I don't think he did, because he did not pay a free kick.

[cyclops]

can club officials spectating any game in the gsfl report on field incidents?only askn as im pretty sure they can in the sfl and if the ump didnt pay the free kick then perhaps this may have occured.im sure pilmore would be scathing about the incident and could recieve sumthing in house also if true.

[limb]

LF I hear saturday at Goolwa oval was interesting with a send off or two, any reports from the day?

It was a very funny moment just after the LC player and the first GPE player were sent off. Another GPE player (who's name won't be mentioned) proceeded to give the LC player, who was now sitting on the bench, a verbal barrage only to have his speech cut short by the umpire who sent him off for 5 as well for his involvement in the fracas.. the look of shock on his face was priceless!

[LuvsFooty]

LF I hear saturday at Goolwa oval was interesting with a send off or two, any reports from the day?

It was a very funny moment just after the LC player and the first GPE player were sent off. Another GPE player (who's name won't be mentioned) proceeded to give the LC player, who was now sitting on the bench, a verbal barrage only to have his speech cut short by the umpire who sent him off for 5 as well for his involvement in the fracas.. the look of shock on his face was priceless!

Who was that idiot Limb? I wouldnt say it was a verbal barrage certainly not worth a send off. The umpire (the inconsistent one that wears the stupid cap ) BLATANTLY LIED in the reoprt because it read that the player in question was sent off for "verbal abuse towards an umpire" which was certainly not true and can be backed up by several people. I dont think McLeod is an umpire and the only swear word said was dick head. The player looked silly but so did the umpire in front of GSFL and SANFL representatives.

[words of wisdom]

I've spoken to a couple of people about what happened in the Willunga vs Strath game and it doesn't sound good. The player involved from Willunga whilst we're not close mates, hes a good bloke, i've known him for a long time & seems out of charcter for him. In saying that he broke someones jaw & must serve the tribunals punishment. Retaliation is not a defence. I dont believe this stuff should be taken into the courts. His only saving grace will be the fact that the Gsfl tribunal does not give out massive penalties, they will add up how many games Willunga have left (winning straight through to the Grandy = 4 matches i think) & he will be avalible for the GF.

SM Skinner, you probably should keep that info to yourself being in the posistion you are in. Only a personal opinon mate

[kappars]

I've spoken to a couple of people about what happened in the Willunga vs Strath game and it doesn't sound good. The player involved from Willunga whilst we're not close mates, hes a good bloke, i've known him for a long time & seems out of charcter for him. In saying that he broke someones jaw & must serve the tribunals punishment. Retaliation is not a defence. I dont believe this stuff should be taken into the courts. His only saving grace will be the fact that the Gsfl tribunal does not give out massive penalties, they will add up how many games Willunga have left (winning straight through to the Grandy = 4 matches i think) & he will be avalible for the GF.

SM Skinner, you probably should keep that info to yourself being in the posistion you are in. Only a personal opinon mate

With out Herman Lucas at the top he might get made a point of and they may make sure he is not available for the GF. I remember being told about a incident a few years back that seen a both a Willunga and a Goolwa player suspended for a number of matches for the exact same charge and incident that would have seen the Willunga player miss some finals (can't remember if it would have been a GF also) the Willunga player appealed the decision and had it reduced so he could play finals but the Goolwa player had to serve the full initial penalty into the next season.
LF would be more accurate on this one.

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LF I hear saturday at Goolwa oval was interesting with a send off or two, any reports from the day?

It was a very funny moment just after the LC player and the first GPE player were sent off. Another GPE player (who's name won't be mentioned) proceeded to give the LC player, who was now sitting on the bench, a verbal barrage only to have his speech cut short by the umpire who sent him off for 5 as well for his involvement in the fracas.. the look of shock on his face was priceless!

Who was that idiot Limb? I wouldnt say it was a verbal barrage certainly not worth a send off. The umpire (the inconsistent one that wears the stupid cap ) BLATANTLY LIED in the reoprt because it read that the player in question was sent off for "verbal abuse towards an umpire" which was certainly not true and can be backed up by several people. I dont think McLeod is an umpire and the only swear word said was dick head. The player looked silly but so did the umpire in front of GSFL and SANFL representatives.

I thought the send off was for remonstrating after the original incident.. there was certainly no abuse towards the umpire! That particular individual was probably a little hard done by!

[limb]

I've spoken to a couple of people about what happened in the Willunga vs Strath game and it doesn't sound good. The player involved from Willunga whilst we're not close mates, hes a good bloke, i've known him for a long time & seems out of charcter for him. In saying that he broke someones jaw & must serve the tribunals punishment. Retaliation is not a defence. I dont believe this stuff should be taken into the courts. His only saving grace will be the fact that the Gsfl tribunal does not give out massive penalties, they will add up how many games Willunga have left (winning straight through to the Grandy = 4 matches i think) & he will be avalible for the GF.

SM Skinner, you probably should keep that info to yourself being in the posistion you are in. Only a personal opinon mate

With out Herman Lucas at the top he might get made a point of and they may make sure he is not available for the GF. I remember being told about a incident a few years back that seen a both a Willunga and a Goolwa player suspended for a number of matches for the exact same charge and incident that would have seen the Willunga player miss some finals (can't remember if it would have been a GF also) the Willunga player appealed the decision and had it reduced so he could play finals but the Goolwa player had to serve the full initial penalty into the next season.
LF would be more accurate on this one.

That's correct.. it might have been in 2006 from memory.. it was an absolute farce!

[LuvsFooty]

So we have 2 field umpires, 2 boundary umpires and 2 goal umpires, as well as a match official, however from the weekends matches the umpires have seen neither incident from the Goolwa v Creek match (although the umpire sent the Creek player off) or the Strath v Willunga match (where a players jaw has been broken). I cant possibly see how this could be the case. Surely the umpires sees it, reports the player, goes to the tribunal with evidence and witnesses and the tribunal acts based on severity and takes in to account precendent from previous cases. Are there umpires on here reading this? Are you all confused when to report, red card or yellow card?

[damian]

I am fed up with the absolute garbage that some of the umpires are serving up in the GSFL (and probably elsewhere), players are not being protected and these incidents are becoming more common because there are little or no penalty. In saying that, having watched Genovese play twice this year, he is obviously a pretty good player, but very dirty and i hope he misses the rest of the year, either suspended or with a broken jaw himself! No need for that on the footy field, sure we can all lose or tempers but to hit someone like that is pretty full on.

Having watched the Creeks player hit the maggies player over and over again (surely it will be on youtube soon LF?), the hit is worth 6 matches, but the reaction of the creeks player is quite interesting, after the hit, he stands around like he is think "f*ck what have i just done", took himself by suprise that he did that i think.

[s m skinner]

WOW i dont believe i have given anything away in my posts , all i have said is my opinion and that doesnt count for much in this instance . LF and Damien you make good points , some umpires are right onto it and thier are others that are not . It is not easy to make a split second decision on weather to send a player off or report him , the player who has been hit often milks the free kick for all its worth and if you act too hastily you could penalise the offending player for something not as serious as first thought . I usually find that during a game if both umpires have a good control of it then the players act accordingly , but unfortunately i think their are people who are umpiring A grade and shouldnt be , not because they want to but because their isnt enough umpires to go round . If we get better people to umpire then it makes the situation better , if all clubs got one person who has retired to take it up then you wouldnt have to put up with these guys .

[skimmer box]

Interested in the incidents on the weekend. Also agree with the crack at Skinner... if you are an umpire shouldn't you be supporting you fellow umps likes footballers protect their mates. Not sure how umps work but they wouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to work out who you are cos' you were stupid enough to say you umpired at Cove...dumb.
Tipping some umps do read this forum and I reckon you have ratted them out...in a footy club you would be frowned on, in a prison you would be dealt with....maybe it's lucky you're an umpire...you certainly aren't enhancing their reputations by slagging off on them.
I hope you are as good as you think you are