3RD ASHES TEST EG V AU EDGBASTON 2009

[mal]

Well done Rudi, just continues to ruin the game of cricket we once knew. PLUMBEST LBW in the history of the game and for some reason cant get his finger out of his arse and raise it. you would think the embarrassment of continually **** up games with his incompetent umpiring would force him to give it away, but no, the attention seeking prick just cant get enough it seems.

Very True Jimbo

THE MOMENT
MJ back into the attack and in a nice spell
The accuracy was good and Mitch looked in the groove
2/106
BELL fighting for his existance in Test cricket
IVE SAID IT ONCE AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN ''UMPIRES CAN RUIN CAREERS''
and again Rudis poor umpiring could ruin this test and perhaps ruin or jump start a career
BELL absolutely plumb LBW to MJ on 18
Missing leg
But hitting off + middle almost half way up
HOWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAT
Not Out

Whats does this decision mean
EG could win the Test
BELL could play a decent innings + re entrench his career
MJ might have lost whatever confidence he had
HUGHES the 12th man whose last innings ended in the Strauss catch must be pondering

EG 2/116 STUMPS
COOK 0
BOP BOP BOPARA IN THE BLUES hey hey hey 26
STRAUSS 64*
DING DONG 23*

[Adelaide Hawk]

Rudi came out after the 2nd Test and said he was disappointed by players claining catches, etc. Typical umpire, gets it wrong but blames the players.

Rudi, ever thought the players may be disappointed with your umpiring? Give it away you stupid old fool. You haven't been Test standard for years. There are other umpires around the world, how come we keep getting stuck with Rudi?

[MAY-Z]

Rudi came out after the 2nd Test and said he was disappointed by players claining catches, etc. Typical umpire, gets it wrong but blames the players.

Rudi, ever thought the players may be disappointed with your umpiring? Give it away you stupid old fool. You haven't been Test standard for years. There are other umpires around the world, how come we keep getting stuck with Rudi?

just a thought on this one; the only reason an umpire ever has to make a decison is because a player gets it wrong. eg ponting got it wrong in the first innings at lords by missing the ball, if he had hit the ball properly like he had intended he would never been in a position to be given out caught out slip. so its ok for a player to get it wrong and blame an umpire...

[MAY-Z]

Hang on you guys think he should be given out if the ball isn't hitting the stumps . Whether a shot is offered or not if it ain't hitting the stumps it isn't out.

You watch the replay from where the umpire is standing and tell me would have given that not out? No way.

Every umpire in the world would have given that out IMO.

That may be the case, i don't know, but it still doesn't mean it is out. Simple if the ball isn't hitting the stumps it isn't out. Our batting has been poor so far this test and in the second but the contribution the umpires are making is far too significant IMO.

So you are blaming the umpires for the current predicament?

Like i said at full speed i thought plum and so would have everyone else, The umpires do not get the benefit of hawk eye which frankly is not that accurate anyway. I would have given that out.

yep watching that live its just out regardless of how many slo-mo replays you can have. if the referral system was in play there is no way that mj wouldve referred that decision as it just looks out

[Adelaide Hawk]

Rudi came out after the 2nd Test and said he was disappointed by players claining catches, etc. Typical umpire, gets it wrong but blames the players.

Rudi, ever thought the players may be disappointed with your umpiring? Give it away you stupid old fool. You haven't been Test standard for years. There are other umpires around the world, how come we keep getting stuck with Rudi?

just a thought on this one; the only reason an umpire ever has to make a decison is because a player gets it wrong. eg ponting got it wrong in the first innings at lords by missing the ball, if he had hit the ball properly like he had intended he would never been in a position to be given out caught out slip. so its ok for a player to get it wrong and blame an umpire...

The difference being, a player makes a couple of mistakes, and his career is over. He cops a couple of bad umpiring decision at the wrong time of his career .. gone. Umpires are allowed to make error after error and they seem to have a job for life!! Umpires don't pay for players' mistakes, but players certainly pay for umpiring mistakes ... big time.

[Gozu]

Jarrod Kimber on last night's play:

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/chappell/200 ... ven-seven/

btw it doesn't sound like there will be much play at all tonight.

[The Cadet]

Looks like there will be little play today, put this test down for a draw.

[cennals05]

Stupid English weather. They should not be allowed to have any major sporting events until they get their weather right.

[dedja]

Stupid English weather. They should not be allowed to have any major sporting events until they get their weather right.

... says from London

[wycbloods]

Rudi came out after the 2nd Test and said he was disappointed by players claining catches, etc. Typical umpire, gets it wrong but blames the players.

Rudi, ever thought the players may be disappointed with your umpiring? Give it away you stupid old fool. You haven't been Test standard for years. There are other umpires around the world, how come we keep getting stuck with Rudi?

just a thought on this one; the only reason an umpire ever has to make a decison is because a player gets it wrong. eg ponting got it wrong in the first innings at lords by missing the ball, if he had hit the ball properly like he had intended he would never been in a position to be given out caught out slip. so its ok for a player to get it wrong and blame an umpire...

that is one of the most stupidest posts i have seen written in the cricket forum ever

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Rudi came out after the 2nd Test and said he was disappointed by players claining catches, etc. Typical umpire, gets it wrong but blames the players.

Rudi, ever thought the players may be disappointed with your umpiring? Give it away you stupid old fool. You haven't been Test standard for years. There are other umpires around the world, how come we keep getting stuck with Rudi?

just a thought on this one; the only reason an umpire ever has to make a decison is because a player gets it wrong. eg ponting got it wrong in the first innings at lords by missing the ball, if he had hit the ball properly like he had intended he would never been in a position to be given out caught out slip. so its ok for a player to get it wrong and blame an umpire...

that is one of the most stupidest posts i have seen written in the cricket forum ever

While I think Rudi is a grade A clown, I understand the point of what May-Z is saying. Players make errors constantly throughout a game but we expect umpires (in any sport) to be completely error free. I find it hilarious when commentators with the aid of replays, slow motion, hawk-eye, thermal, etc can't determine whether a batsman's out but people bag the ump who has a milisecond to make his assessment...

[mal]

I have a solution that could revolutionise cricket in England
They are losing so much playing time when walking off with bad light
I have the solution
I will have to get it patented and copyrighted
Im sure it will work
Start the games 30-60 minutes earlier each day....

[EasyE]

Just scrolling through the thread during the rain delay and thought id give my two cents on the keeping debate.

Im of the opinion that in test cricket, you should always select your best keeper and that batting ability should be secondary. Brad Haddin is and always has been a substandard gloveman. I watch a lot of domestic cricket and he has put down many regulation catches and let through many byes over the last 10 years. His footwork is terrible and i think he is easily the worst in the country and i dont think he would have ever been considered for the baggy green if he didn't play for NSW. I wonder how valuable his slogging of 60 or 70 runs will be when he puts down a catch to someone early who goes on to make a big century? I guess we will find out, because i can guarantee that it will happen soon. Australia has a big enough problem taking 20 wickets at the moment without having that clown behind the stumps. And while being a South Aussie, im glad Graham Manou has got a gig as he is the best pure gloveman in the land IMHO, although at 30 probably isn't the man to take Australia forward. For me, Tim Paine should be the test keeper for the next 10 years. He's young, a great keeper (I saw him standing up to the stumps for Hilfenhaus a couple of years back and took everything cleanly) and also a quality bat (opens for Tassie on occasions).

Incidentally i also saw Mitchell Johnson warming up in a one dayer for Qld here one year when he bowled a practice delivery to mid off, missed him by about 5 metres and the ball sailed to the boundary. He followed this up by missing the pitch during the following over. Needless to say, im not surprised by his current form but am more shocked that he's managed 100 test wickets!

Oh well, back to watching Richard Hammond and hoping the rain stops soon...........

[mal]

EASY E
Thanks for that info on Brad Haddins keeping over the last 10 years
Appears he has been a sloppy keeper all the time
I HADDint noticed it on the few occasions I HAD seen him for New Reb Wales

[dedja]

You can't polish a turd Mal ... the weather's sh*t all day long over there.

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Geez, that standing water is about as bad as I've seen it on any oval...

[rod_rooster]

Im of the opinion that in test cricket, you should always select your best keeper and that batting ability should be secondary.

I'm glad i'm not on my own. I would still make the exception for Gilchrist though but he was just a freak. He could have played purely as a batsman as he proved when he took on the number 3 role in India when Ponting was out injured.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Im of the opinion that in test cricket, you should always select your best keeper and that batting ability should be secondary.

I'm glad i'm not on my own. I would still make the exception for Gilchrist though but he was just a freak. He could have played purely as a batsman as he proved when he took on the number 3 role in India when Ponting was out injured.

Nope, you're not on your own. I don't comment much on Haddin because I've never kept wickets, but a lot of people in SA cricket have convinced me that Manou is the best glove man in the country. If that is true, he should be keeping for Australia.

When we had an attack that could rip through opposition batting line ups, we could possibly afford Haddin, but we can't now.

[mal]

Good keepers that bat fair are recievers
Bad keepers who bat well are match winners [and match losers thru thier keeping]
In other words HADDIN can win a game but MANOU can only do a job

Glilly and Hadds can win games batting at 7
Manou does not fit that criteria [yet]

Put it in another way
If I was an AU bowler I would prefer seeing MANOU behing the stumps
If I was an EG bowler Id rather bowl at MANOU

There are arguments for and against in the Haddin /Manou debate

But as long as HADDIN makes runs he is still the better selection
And thats why the selectors will continue to pick him first


PLAY ABANDONED DAY 3
Good Night

[Adelaide Hawk]

But as long as HADDIN makes runs he is still the better selection
And thats why the selectors will continue to pick him first

Plus he wears a light blue cap in his spare time, which helps a bit