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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Ron Burgundy » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 pm

I always thought NG nickname from back in the Riverland was gold!
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby aceman » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:28 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby nuggety goodness » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:28 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:I always thought NG nickname from back in the Riverland was gold!


yes well... :oops:

i actually introduced myself as Boonga when i went to school up in Loxton, 'twas a name i was affectionately known as before i moved up there, everyone loved it and it just stuck... i was the token black guy for everyone to get stuck into, and because it was all out of love (maybe) i didn't worry too much and still don't...
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Q. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:45 pm

aceman wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!


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Re: verbul slurs

Postby silicone skyline » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:51 pm

Quichey wrote:
aceman wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!


History. Nobody was ever hung for being a fatty.


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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:00 pm

Quichey wrote:
aceman wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!


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Re: verbul slurs

Postby aceman » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:22 pm

Quichey wrote:
aceman wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!


History. Nobody was ever hung for being a fatty.



This is currently before the SAAFL; Player A calls Player B a white c... so player B calls Player A a black pr^ck. Umpire hears player B and reports him. Player A then calls I/change steward a white c... also.
Finishes up at an investigation and all that is dealt with is the fact that a player is racially vilified by the use of the word 'black'.
Are we in a world where only 1 colour can be vilified against with repercussions?
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Q. » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:37 pm

But white people are c****. Look what we've given the world - genocide, slavery and sitcoms.


Seriously though, I don't know what the answer is to your dilemma. Maybe the punishment for either should be the same.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby silicone skyline » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:41 pm

Quichey wrote: Maybe the punishment for either should be the same.


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Re: verbul slurs

Postby wycbloods » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:47 pm

silicone skyline wrote:
Quichey wrote:
aceman wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:Are they simply that though?

I agree they can have a similar effect but they are very different. One is socially accepted (generally) and the other isnt.



Can you please explain the reasons why one is and one isn't!


History. Nobody was ever hung for being a fatty.


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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Rotter » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:14 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
I must admit though, it does stick in my craw when I'm called a "white c*nt", "cracker" or "redneck", as I'm certainly none of those.
It's what they call positive discrimination.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby TEX07 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:43 pm

Any form of verbal slur can be considererd offensive, you can someone one thing and they have no problem with it but the same thing said to another is offensive. Picking on someone purely due to thier race is disgracefull. Not only is it offensive to the person you say it to you really come across as an uneducated twat! Witty banter can be humorous and leave the person with nothin but a big f**k off as a come back.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby the big bang » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:45 pm

TEX07 wrote:Any form of verbal slur can be considererd offensive, you can someone one thing and they have no problem with it but the same thing said to another is offensive. Picking on someone purely due to thier race is disgracefull. Not only is it offensive to the person you say it to you really come across as an uneducated twat! Witty banter can be humorous and leave the person with nothin but a big f**k off as a come back.



i often get called a fat so-and-so on the field, so now all i have to say is "geez, that's original, i havnt heard that one before. you're a regular genius for coming up with that one!". it generally leaves the other bloke redfaced, and, as you said TEX07, with nothing to say but "f**k off!"

i grew up in a little town just outside mildura, where the aboriginals and italians would have gone close to out-numbering us "whiteys". and back there, for a white bloke to call an aboriginal "black" and italians "wogs" was an everyday occurance, and nothing was thought of it. so i guess it's just how you've been bought up. as it sounds like NUGGETY GOODNESS was pretty much bought up the same, and still now has a relaxed attitude towards it.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby MatteeG » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:34 pm

the_big_bang wrote:i often get called a fat so-and-so on the field, so now all i have to say is "geez, that's original, i havnt heard that one before. you're a regular genius for coming up with that one!". it generally leaves the other bloke redfaced, and, as you said TEX07, with nothing to say but "f**k off!"


Agreed- the best comeback is something which either makes the taunter think too hard, or embarrasses them to the point of them dropping the f bomb. A mate of mine always told me when in verbal banter dropping a swear means you have run out of ammo....

Best comeback to a fat taunt I have seen was while I was goal umpiring our B grade one day when injured. Our full forward was burly, and we were getting a hiding. A couple of opposition supporters started teeing off at our full forward who hadnt seen a lot of play, but the runner had offered him a drink

"Hey buddy, thats water, not a hotdog" was the sledge from the ute behind the goals.

"I know. I clearly asked for a burger" was the swift reply from the full forward.

Had me and the sledgers in stitches, and they actually cheered him for the rest of the game....
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Iron Fist » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:14 am

the_big_bang wrote:
TEX07 wrote:Any form of verbal slur can be considererd offensive, you can someone one thing and they have no problem with it but the same thing said to another is offensive. Picking on someone purely due to thier race is disgracefull. Not only is it offensive to the person you say it to you really come across as an uneducated twat! Witty banter can be humorous and leave the person with nothin but a big f**k off as a come back.



i often get called a fat so-and-so on the field, so now all i have to say is "geez, that's original, i havnt heard that one before. you're a regular genius for coming up with that one!". it generally leaves the other bloke redfaced, and, as you said TEX07, with nothing to say but "f**k off!"

i grew up in a little town just outside mildura, where the aboriginals and italians would have gone close to out-numbering us "whiteys". and back there, for a white bloke to call an aboriginal "black" and italians "wogs" was an everyday occurance, and nothing was thought of it. so i guess it's just how you've been bought up. as it sounds like NUGGETY GOODNESS was pretty much bought up the same, and still now has a relaxed attitude towards it.


I have mates that are dark skinned and like you said, they dont even blink if you call them a black **** or what not, just as swiftly they will reply with something along the lines of you white ****, prick. I think that is fair game and how it should be towards everyone!
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:35 pm

Agreed.
It all depends how comfortable you are with the person.
I've got black mates who don't give a shit. They know they're black, I know I'm white. Neither of us care.

Although...
I've been called a white c*nt on the field before and then spat on with the umpire right there.
Nothing was done.
I'm sure if it was the other way around I would've been reported and sent off straight away.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby TEX07 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:02 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:Agreed.
It all depends how comfortable you are with the person.
I've got black mates who don't give a s***t. They know they're black, I know I'm white. Neither of us care.

Although...
I've been called a white c*nt on the field before and then spat on with the umpire right there.
Nothing was done.
I'm sure if it was the other way around I would've been reported and sent off straight away.


If the things that happend to indiginous people happened to us then we would have much more right to be offended when called a wite c**t. Simply it didnt happen to us which is why it will never be a big issue in football. In your situation the only issue was being spat on really, and that is just feral behaviour whether you are black or white.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:05 pm

Why? I've never done anything to indigenous people.
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby TEX07 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:28 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:Why? I've never done anything to indigenous people.


sorry Chuck i wasnt infurring you did, what i meant was that treatment they recieved in the past 150 years. I guess what i am saying is being called a white c**t is no way near as bad as being called a black c**t. As i said earlier, any verbal someone gives you that is aimed at race is ignorant and i include someone calling someone a white c**t it is just that we do not get offended by this because historically we have not been villified because we are white, they have becasue they are black. Like i said mate in no way should anyone spit on you and i do tend to agree if you had said the same back you would be up for games. Lucky you were smart enough not to ;)
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Re: verbul slurs

Postby Liquid Confidence » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:52 pm

Tex07,

A couple of things... I see what your trying to say in regards to treatment of 'black' australians in the past, and how they were disrespected... but what relevance does that have to most of the indigenous population these days. I would think MOST indigenous people would have had equality for at least 3 decades if not longer in some places, so if we are talking footballers, I would be confident suggesting that 99% fit into that catergory... Hence if they directly have not been effected why should they have leniency in ratial slurring??? If equality is what they are angry about, then slurring someone because of their races id a little hypocritical IMO...

I personally dont care either way, but it annoys me when people say racial vilification is ok for one party but not the other!
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