SAAFL C2 (2009)

[bandar]

Finn just to confirm is Roseworthy closing this year? Does it get relocated to somewhere like Waite nad will a side come from there?

[finn]

i've heard that - would suggest that if roseworthy is closing and ag science etc moving to waite that the stand alone roseworthy side would probably merge with the other uni sides - but still form a core - this may let them also play down the grades if they're moving to the city colleges. time will tell.

[wristwatcher]

a - roseworthy don't have a list of 50, they have 25
b - its uni holidays and since they all live at colleges, they get charged for each week they are there - their families save themselves approxiamtely $1000 - 1500 by them coming home plus they're visiting their families. yep - that's s***t.
c - last week they had six players available and during holidays the players have been travelling from anything up to approxiamtely 300 kms to play c2. the surplus of players in the club filled other sides - to the stage that the div 7 side had 5 c6 players playing.
d - they are uni's nominated last team - thus behind the c6 side - roseworthy only play c2 because they need to play late games and c2 is lower than c1


hope that clears up some stuff[/quote]



i appreciate what your saying and you are obviously well informed. the only thing that i need to correct you on is the fact that by round 7 they had already used 45 different players. thus the alleged squad of 25 is far greater in number than what you think. i dont have anything personally against this team. i found them to be a good bunch of lads and some of the boys who play in my team are mates with those boys. its just a bit hard to swallow the timing of the forfeit (flinders park-top team) and over the last 3 years ive been constantly thrashed by this mob and in the previous 3 years it didnt seem to be a problem ever to field a team.

[wristwatcher]

Speaking of forfeits...I nearly chocked on my sun morning cereal when i saw PEMBROKE FORFEIT last weekend. Does anyone know the reasoning behind that one. I really really hate it when a team forfeits.

[Rotter]

Speaking of forfeits...I nearly chocked on my sun morning cereal when i saw PEMBROKE FORFEIT last weekend. Does anyone know the reasoning behind that one. I really really hate it when a team forfeits.

Please refer to my earlier post re your ignorance

[finn]

a - roseworthy don't have a list of 50, they have 25
b - its uni holidays and since they all live at colleges, they get charged for each week they are there - their families save themselves approxiamtely $1000 - 1500 by them coming home plus they're visiting their families. yep - that's s***t.
c - last week they had six players available and during holidays the players have been travelling from anything up to approxiamtely 300 kms to play c2. the surplus of players in the club filled other sides - to the stage that the div 7 side had 5 c6 players playing.
d - they are uni's nominated last team - thus behind the c6 side - roseworthy only play c2 because they need to play late games and c2 is lower than c1


hope that clears up some stuff

i appreciate what your saying and you are obviously well informed. the only thing that i need to correct you on is the fact that by round 7 they had already used 45 different players. thus the alleged squad of 25 is far greater in number than what you think. i dont have anything personally against this team. i found them to be a good bunch of lads and some of the boys who play in my team are mates with those boys. its just a bit hard to swallow the timing of the forfeit (flinders park-top team) and over the last 3 years ive been constantly thrashed by this mob and in the previous 3 years it didnt seem to be a problem ever to field a team.[/quote]

on average, the city uni sides have provided 5 players a week to the roseworthy boys this year - we tend to mix the players up who go from week to week hence the number going through the squad. its more look at the people who have played more than three games to see the majority of their squad. i know roseworthy either forfeited last year or the year before - and their holiday results are always out of whack with the rest of the year. usually we can cover holiday problems but not so much this year with injuries and people dropping off. i can understand your concern though.

they've taken some poundings this year and two years ago - most of the club is taking some thrashings and i do know (because of selection attendance) that the c6 side who received a forfeit from salisbury were going to play c2 until the majority of the players were required by other sides - and this side had been beaten comprehensively by flinders'' d grade (c6).

we don't like to forfeit because we know how dejecting is to players waiting for a game and not getting one - just no choice last week unfortunately - and its always better to know on thursday pm rather than later so other things can at least be organised.

hopefully it won't happen again.

[wristwatcher]

To FINN, thankyou for explaining the situation. It is appreciated and hope your boys can work through their current difficulties


To ROTTER, twice you have insulted me without providing any explination. It was a legitimate question re; Pembroke. Finn was able to clarify and to some extent justify the forfeit by adelaide uni. You have done nothing except make yourself look like the ignorant one. Insulting someone whilst hiding behind an alias is the act of a WEAK person. You dont know me and i am certain you do not have any idea of my role with the saafl or my knowledge of the league.

[wristwatcher]

It very much looks like the top 5 will sort itself out in the next 2 weeks. This is the way i see it.....
Flinders park can be locked into top spot,a fast fit annoyingly good unit that have not lost since round 1.
Phos at 11-2 look a monty for 2nd and their form on sat was very very good
Pembroke were very good earlier in the year and have ticked all the boxes except for 1.last weekends forfeit.I assume this was a one off and will be having a good look at them this weekend.Should hang in there for 3rd.
Eastern Park with a good draw and improved form in the 2nd half of the year should sneak in to 4th.
5th place looks like it will be a battle between PNU and BROADVIEW. Its unfortunate that one of these teams may win 10 or more games and not make finals.Round 17 @ PNU may put together the final piece of the puzzle.

The goalkicking looks like it will be the Hobba show as with at least 2 finals he may he even get up towards the ton. Super mullet Geoffry "Cool" Clarky is likely to be 2nd with about 70 goals and 2 handballs for the year.

Any comments,contradictions or unput boys.......

[bandar]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

[wristwatcher]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

Your spot on with the 2nd point chief. i think thats one the reasons why east pk have made up a fair bit of ground and will continue to do so which is coinsiding with a b grade form slump. Based on the theorey of a teams A and B grade efffecting their C grade i think FLIND pk are a very short priced fav for the flag whilst both Pnu and Broadies C,s may have inconsistent form depending on the higher grades run with injurys.Probably Bvw has the advantage in having a D grade.Either way both teams have had a much improved C grade season in 09....I will say i dont think that 8 win thing is a gaurantee in C2 as strange things can happen in the world of C grade.

[bandar]

Come finals time if all your sides are playing the normal open slather selection can help as well it seems like everyone is fit in finals and you can have a full range to pick from.

[oldslow]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

Your spot on with the 2nd point chief. i think thats one the reasons why east pk have made up a fair bit of ground and will continue to do so which is coinsiding with a b grade form slump. Based on the theorey of a teams A and B grade efffecting their C grade i think FLIND pk are a very short priced fav for the flag whilst both Pnu and Broadies C,s may have inconsistent form depending on the higher grades run with injurys.Probably Bvw has the advantage in having a D grade.Either way both teams have had a much improved C grade season in 09....I will say i dont think that 8 win thing is a gaurantee in C2 as strange things can happen in the world of C grade.

Are you suggesting that EPFC is loading up with B graders ??? I can tell you that this is definately not the case.

[boozehound]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

Your spot on with the 2nd point chief. i think thats one the reasons why east pk have made up a fair bit of ground and will continue to do so which is coinsiding with a b grade form slump. Based on the theorey of a teams A and B grade efffecting their C grade i think FLIND pk are a very short priced fav for the flag whilst both Pnu and Broadies C,s may have inconsistent form depending on the higher grades run with injurys.Probably Bvw has the advantage in having a D grade.Either way both teams have had a much improved C grade season in 09....I will say i dont think that 8 win thing is a gaurantee in C2 as strange things can happen in the world of C grade.

Are you suggesting that EPFC is loading up with B graders ??? I can tell you that this is definately not the case.

Yeah he must be considering the theory that we care enough about the C grade to load their side....hahahahahahahahaha

(just kidding supers)

[wristwatcher]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

Your spot on with the 2nd point chief. i think thats one the reasons why east pk have made up a fair bit of ground and will continue to do so which is coinsiding with a b grade form slump. Based on the theorey of a teams A and B grade efffecting their C grade i think FLIND pk are a very short priced fav for the flag whilst both Pnu and Broadies C,s may have inconsistent form depending on the higher grades run with injurys.Probably Bvw has the advantage in having a D grade.Either way both teams have had a much improved C grade season in 09....I will say i dont think that 8 win thing is a gaurantee in C2 as strange things can happen in the world of C grade.

Are you suggesting that EPFC is loading up with B graders ??? I can tell you that this is definately not the case.

only based on the fact that there was a 25 goal turn around to the good for e pk in the C,s whilst the B,s had a big turnaround to the negative.also there was some guns in the C,s i had not seen earlier in the year.im not saying your manipulating the system but a little man management and box ticking re; qualification for finals would have to take place.its funny how sometimes guns cant make the early games or will miss trg to avoid grde promotion.its not an eastern park thing its saafl wide,you gotta give your teams the best chance to be competitive in the finals...i guess if the guy that took 28 marks against us 3 weeks ago is playing b,s then im way of the mark.

[oldslow]

Fair assesment I think with regards to missing finals with 10 wins by the look of the form of the bottom 4 sides you are almost guaranteed 8 wins to start which is prabably a bit misleading. The interest will be come the end of the year how the sides pan out for finals and whether the teams in higher grades are playing and whether that helps or hinders.

Your spot on with the 2nd point chief. i think thats one the reasons why east pk have made up a fair bit of ground and will continue to do so which is coinsiding with a b grade form slump. Based on the theorey of a teams A and B grade efffecting their C grade i think FLIND pk are a very short priced fav for the flag whilst both Pnu and Broadies C,s may have inconsistent form depending on the higher grades run with injurys.Probably Bvw has the advantage in having a D grade.Either way both teams have had a much improved C grade season in 09....I will say i dont think that 8 win thing is a gaurantee in C2 as strange things can happen in the world of C grade.

Are you suggesting that EPFC is loading up with B graders ??? I can tell you that this is definately not the case.

only based on the fact that there was a 25 goal turn around to the good for e pk in the C,s whilst the B,s had a big turnaround to the negative.also there was some guns in the C,s i had not seen earlier in the year.im not saying your manipulating the system but a little man management and box ticking re; qualification for finals would have to take place.its funny how sometimes guns cant make the early games or will miss trg to avoid grde promotion.its not an eastern park thing its saafl wide,you gotta give your teams the best chance to be competitive in the finals...i guess if the guy that took 28 marks against us 3 weeks ago is playing b,s then im way of the mark.

Trust me mate the C grade is not and never has been loaded up for finals our focus is the A's. Our B grade is for young blokes with the potential to plays A's in the coming years so they will be up and down. The C's have some good footballers and a list of about 35 so when they are all avaliable they get to put a good side on the park. A few of these blokes could play B's but we don't want permament B graders so if they are a bit older and their days of A grade are done most will move to the C's with a couple of good leaders staying in the B's. With al due respect to the C graders (and I will be one next year) it is just not that important to the club in the big picture of where we want to be. Lets face it even a B grade flag achieves nothing for the club if the A's are not going well.

[wristwatcher]

rust me mate the C grade is not and never has been loaded up for finals our focus is the A's. Our B grade is for young blokes with the potential to plays A's in the coming years so they will be up and down. The C's have some good footballers and a list of about 35 so when they are all avaliable they get to put a good side on the park. A few of these blokes could play B's but we don't want permament B graders so if they are a bit older and their days of A grade are done most will move to the C's with a couple of good leaders staying in the B's. With al due respect to the C graders (and I will be one next year) it is just not that important to the club in the big picture of where we want to be. Lets face it even a B grade flag achieves nothing for the club if the A's are not going well.[/quote]


yep i completely agree on that one.its a farce for any club to have a dominant C grade if your B,s are not winning a game...The standard in c2 this year has actually been really good and its good to see the league fixed the problems we had with it last year(3 A grade teams).Apart from the fact that a couple of teams have D grades its a really fair and even comp this year.I assume it will be of a similar standard in 2010 so if you do have a run in the c,s next year its no kick in the park,especially if your old and slow.this is something i can relate too.

[nuggety goodness]

rust me mate the C grade is not and never has been loaded up for finals our focus is the A's. Our B grade is for young blokes with the potential to plays A's in the coming years so they will be up and down. The C's have some good footballers and a list of about 35 so when they are all avaliable they get to put a good side on the park. A few of these blokes could play B's but we don't want permament B graders so if they are a bit older and their days of A grade are done most will move to the C's with a couple of good leaders staying in the B's. With al due respect to the C graders (and I will be one next year) it is just not that important to the club in the big picture of where we want to be. Lets face it even a B grade flag achieves nothing for the club if the A's are not going well.

yep i completely agree on that one.its a farce for any club to have a dominant C grade if your B,s are not winning a game...The standard in c2 this year has actually been really good and its good to see the league fixed the problems we had with it last year(3 A grade teams).Apart from the fact that a couple of teams have D grades its a really fair and even comp this year.I assume it will be of a similar standard in 2010 so if you do have a run in the c,s next year its no kick in the park,especially if your old and slow.this is something i can relate too.[/quote]

just in relation to the league fixing the problems, that's not true. us and Nth Pines have done some work in getting two sides on the park this year and that was done off our own backs. the standard was very good last year and we won the premiership but Modbury (a C grade side) were undefeated all year until the GF and the other two A grade sides finished toward the bottom end of the table. not havin a go just think we deserve the credit not the league...

[wristwatcher]

fair enough. i hope your boys can work through their current financial difficulties i read about in the messenger this week.

[wristwatcher]

Can or will anybody beat Flinders Park again this year. They are really really good.

[hoareyy]

Can or will anybody beat Flinders Park again this year. They are really really good.

i hope not hahahahaha