Rd 15 Port def South Review

[prowling panther]

Us south blokes are just a little pissed off at the moment, but dont worry we will get over it by next friday night, just to go all through it again next week

[blueandwhite]

I for one would support the coach. It goes without saying that he clearly has a difficult job. Sacking him now is completely pointless because as yet we have been unable to assess his performance fairly. He has had little support from the club and the FOC in recruiting players to the club; the club boasts that it hasnt used all of its salary cap this year- Bloody fantastic! thats helped the balance sheet but look at the results on the field!
Lets give Clay a go , find him some seasoned players with some size and then we'll know whether he can coach or not.

[Pseudo]

Jack got the runs on the board against Glenelg who were the then top side of the competition

Nice of you to flatter the Bays fella, but calling any team the top side of the competition at the cusp of round 1 is a little bit silly

[southee]

Us south blokes are just a little pissed off at the moment, but dont worry we will get over it by next friday night, just to go all through it again next week

...year after year....year after year......God it's hard being a Southee!!!

[pantherfromwayback]

Funny how over the last few weeks all the Sampson baggers have been quiet & talking up prospects for the future with a few competitive efforts. As soon as our side puts in a poor effort like today out they come again calling for Clay to be sacked or resign. The same people are the ones who keep saying the club needs stability - WTF?? Do you think the SAFC should go for a quick fix again???

The above mentioned people should take the time to speak to those on the board & discuss the plan the club has in place - you will find the are very open to suggestions & feedback.
As for those who don't realise, the Cahill chapter has closed, discussion & comparisons are pointless.

[saintal]

Lets give Clay a go , find him some seasoned players with some size and then we'll know whether he can coach or not.

Agreed. As frustrating as today was, and 12 straight losses is hard to take, now is not the time for another coaching change.

[ball breaker]

I think it's hard to blame Clay for all the results!

The CLUB has to sit down and do a MAJOR self analysis. I believe that Clay has to stay, create stability rather than another change!

How can you not blame the coach??? ....he has to be accountable.

A MAJOR self analysis was done with the so called "Morris report"

Port were undermaned today and it was the perfect chance to capitalise on that.....we did not.

Yes, Cahill won at Alberton last year

A 59 point loss to the 2nd bottom side is just not acceptable IMO

I concur with your comments re 'not acceptable' ... the point I'm trying to make (with out seeing the contents or suggestions of the Morris report) is if Sampson is pushed or walks at the year and replaced with another coach will this fix the 'problem' ? Again Ii'm on the outside looking in so I don't know if South have commenced implementing the recommendations of this report! I'm a South follower, at the moment I feel as if the club is running along the lines of a Fremantle! No matter what coach is put in charge they will struggle. This is only my opionion!

Hard work achieves success. I'm hopeful (fingers crossed) that a 'strong' spine is built off field (ie admin thru to recruiting etc) which will inturn flow on to the fuild! Here's hoping! But i'm sure it's nothing that hasn't been said before! the Doggies when thru it !!

[whatever]

I think it's hard to blame Clay for all the results!

The CLUB has to sit down and do a MAJOR self analysis. I believe that Clay has to stay, create stability rather than another change!

How can you not blame the coach??? ....he has to be accountable.

A MAJOR self analysis was done with the so called "Morris report"

Port were undermaned today and it was the perfect chance to capitalise on that.....we did not.

Yes, Cahill won at Alberton last year

A 59 point loss to the 2nd bottom side is just not acceptable IMO

FFS the team is showing signs of improvement, it is putting more and more competative football out each week.

You have no experience

Torney, Handby, Warren have experience I think

You are building a team around Boyd, Rolfe, Sandery, Redigolo, etc.

If you look at your team on paper you should be getting flogged. Your coach is trying to play good attacking football. Once these guys have played 100 games you will be hard to beat as long as the desire to get better is continued

Look at the top teams, in general half of the list has played 100 games.

[Broadie]

Due to the 59 point percentage boost, the Magpies have now "leapt" into 7th spot on the Premiership ladder, with Norwood now in 8th spot.

[shoe boy]

Funny how over the last few weeks all the Sampson baggers have been quiet & talking up prospects for the future with a few competitive efforts. As soon as our side puts in a poor effort like today out they come again calling for Clay to be sacked or resign. The same people are the ones who keep saying the club needs stability - WTF?? Do you think the SAFC should go for a quick fix again???

The above mentioned people should take the time to speak to those on the board & discuss the plan the club has in place - you will find the are very open to suggestions & feedback.
As for those who don't realise, the Cahill chapter has closed, discussion & comparisons are pointless.

The current admin and footy ops are reaping what THEY sowed!!

As for being open to ANY feedback or suggestions they DONT listen.FACT

[Magpiespower]

FFS the team is showing signs of improvement, it is putting more and more competative football out each week... You are building a team... Once these guys have played 100 games you will be hard to beat as long as the desire to get better is continued.

In fairness to South supporters, they've been hearing stuff like this for donkey's...

[darley16]

All clubs have doomsday supporters sadly we seem to have a few so-called supporters who condem from afar. Clay Sampson should and will quite rightly remain as coach (that a fact shoey not your tripe which you present as fact, opinion yes, fact no). The constant harping about Cahill whose own petulence bought about his own demise which has been covered to death on this site clearly had a better more experienced squad than Clay to work with (some have short memories). This young team has been playing without luck and carrying injuries over the past month and have been extremly competitive. Port will finish higher than 8th and have been playing very well over the last month. Gotta love the supporters who sink the boots in about the clubs instabilty, then call for more of the same, wake up!

[shoe boy]

All clubs have doomsday supporters sadly we seem to have a few so-called supporters who condem from afar. Clay Sampson should and will quite rightly remain as coach (that a fact shoey not your tripe which you present as fact, opinion yes, fact no). The constant harping about Cahill whose own petulence bought about his own demise which has been covered to death on this site clearly had a better more experienced squad than Clay to work with (some have short memories). This young team has been playing without luck and carrying injuries over the past month and have been extremly competitive. Port will finish higher than 8th and have been playing very well over the last month. Gotta love the supporters who sink the boots in about the clubs instabilty, then call for more of the same, wake up!

Darley Darley. My Fact is actually Fact.

As for appointing coaches OUR record is not great FACT.

[Sojourner]

The constant harping about Cahill whose own petulence bought about his own demise which has been covered to death on this site clearly had a better more experienced squad than Clay to work with (some have short memories).

Clay had exactly the same players to work with as Jack Cahill, the club then recruited several more for Clay to work with......

[harley d]

All clubs have doomsday supporters sadly we seem to have a few so-called supporters who condem from afar

You certainly do

[pale ale]

The biggest problem at South are people like Darley 16 who think that there is nothing wrong at South and alls going well for a bright future, but loyal supporters like Southee know thats not right.
Everyone keeps talking the youth factor but as someone else has suggested the clubs age list is no different to any other clubs and the under 18s are well down the ladder with no players making the State Side.
And Shoe Boy you are not the only one who is complaining about South and ther Local Clubs not having a good relationship.
The Club needs someone outside to control Football Operations and revamp everything from the bottom up.
Blaming Clay Sampson is not fair - there is more to it than the performance of the Senior Side but no one at South knows it.

[Squawk]

What happened to project "Divine Intervention" this year?

[darley16]

So Pale Ale, as i "support" the club as opposed to those whinge, that makes the whinges loyal and actual supporters...?
Besides all that, i have greatly criticised the club in past years, however, i like a number of other loyal supporters have made the effort to talk with CEO & Board members and expressed my previous concerns to them. By getting involved i can see the efforts undertaken, a constructive and considered plan, prudent fiscal management, an understanding of our clubs past failures and nothing the club has done this year has moved me to criticise their efforts. With knowledge comes power, so to Pale and others, do what i have done, contact the club, make time to meet with CEO tell them your concerns, you won't get spin you will get a good hearing and be presented with a future that is bright. Shoey i know the club would really like to talk with you and discuss your facts, give em a call, go on get invloved.

[whatever]

The biggest problem at South are people like Darley 16 who think that there is nothing wrong at South and alls going well for a bright future, but loyal supporters like Southee know thats not right.
Everyone keeps talking the youth factor but as someone else has suggested the clubs age list is no different to any other clubs and the under 18s are well down the ladder with no players making the State Side.
And Shoe Boy you are not the only one who is complaining about South and ther Local Clubs not having a good relationship.
The Club needs someone outside to control Football Operations and revamp everything from the bottom up.
Blaming Clay Sampson is not fair - there is more to it than the performance of the Senior Side but no one at South knows it.

The under 18's does not need to be sitting high up on the ladder, even though it is nice it is there for the development of SANFL and AFL players.

This is where Souths really have to lift their game and from my understanding they are aware of it. Just like they are aware of the fractured relationship that it has with its zone. My understanding is that they are trying to mend the broken fences but it is not as easy as going to a club zone and saying to them ok, this has been your problem, we now understand your problem, we have gone away and fixed the problem. The issue is they now have to prove it to clubs in their zone and in all honesty it is likely to take 5 years of hard work from south before they will start to see a change in attitude.

The under18's group Has a good bunch of players who with coaching, support and dedication could become good SANFL players. Bollenhage, Bowd, Brooksby, Carter, Davis-Neale, Guy, Johnson, Pelle all have the tools they now need the education to be given to them and the drive to suceed.

One thing South has to make sure that they do is when they get a junior from a local club is that if he does not make it in the SANFL that he is returned to his local club a better player and still with a love for the game.

[pale ale]

Darley I too have had talks with CEO but I must admit not the board but I dont agree that the future looks bright but will be happy if I am wrong I also disagree with you whatever, I think that the under 18s need to be up the top end of the ladder as this is part of the culture at South that needs to change, not pinning hope on the best 5 players that may come through, there should be 5 or 6 players in this system at least in the State Squad and a successfull team in comparison to other clubs, and a Winning culture leading into there Senior careers
Especially with a mediocre Reserves team then these guys are going to fill numbers as Seniors as of next Year
I am sure Glenelg and Port are happier with what they have coming to fill this area next year compared to South