a HUGHES problem for our top order?

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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby am Bays » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:49 pm

rod_rooster wrote:Greg Chappell says hello ;)


I'll think you find he got dropped (made 12th man) for one of the 'tests' against the Rest of the World in 71-72.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Hondo » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:43 pm

Mmmm .... is Ferguson playing County cricket at the moment?

;) (sorry Pup, couldn't resist ...)
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby heater31 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:58 pm

hondo71 wrote:Mmmm .... is Ferguson playing County cricket at the moment?

;) (sorry Pup, couldn't resist ...)


nope he is in Cairns for the top end tour with Taity............
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:04 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
interested observer wrote:
shoe boy wrote:The lad will be good he has plenty of character.


Certainly agree with you SB on his character, however his most unusual technique will be found out at the highest level over time. Only my opinion..
Restrict his off side options and he is very limited...


The more bowlers concentrate on his "weakness", the more it will develop into a strength. The problem with Flintoff bowling to Hughes was he concentrated mainly on the leg stump and short. He needed to bowl around off stump and then use the short ball on leg stump as a shock ball.

Flintoff's first couple of balls hurried him up a little, and then lost its effect the more he bowled there. It reminded me a little of the theory bowlers around the world had about Steve Waugh not being able to handle the short ball. He kept getting them, but they rarely got him out, and he scored a lot of runs along the journey.

It wasn't really bothering Hughes, it just restricted his scoring potential, but as I said, the more the bowl there, the more he will develop as a Test batsman.



Say that to Micheal Bevan - it depends on the player as several posters have pointed out. Also, who got Hughes out?

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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:44 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
interested observer wrote:
shoe boy wrote:The lad will be good he has plenty of character.


Certainly agree with you SB on his character, however his most unusual technique will be found out at the highest level over time. Only my opinion..
Restrict his off side options and he is very limited...


The more bowlers concentrate on his "weakness", the more it will develop into a strength. The problem with Flintoff bowling to Hughes was he concentrated mainly on the leg stump and short. He needed to bowl around off stump and then use the short ball on leg stump as a shock ball.

Flintoff's first couple of balls hurried him up a little, and then lost its effect the more he bowled there. It reminded me a little of the theory bowlers around the world had about Steve Waugh not being able to handle the short ball. He kept getting them, but they rarely got him out, and he scored a lot of runs along the journey.

It wasn't really bothering Hughes, it just restricted his scoring potential, but as I said, the more the bowl there, the more he will develop as a Test batsman.



Say that to Micheal Bevan - it depends on the player as several posters have pointed out. Also, who got Hughes out?

regards,

REB


Right. So that's it for Hughes eh? Let's give him away right now because Bevan couldn't play a short ball. The reason Bevan was inadequate against the short ball was he decided not to work on it, but elected to become a virtual one-day specialist at International level. He took the soft option.

Hughes is made of stronger stuff than that, he's more the Steve Waugh "tough it out" type of player, and those guys invariably become good Test batsmen. And so Flintoff got him out ... so what? Panesar got Ponting out as well.
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby The Cadet » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:59 pm

How long do we give Hussey, the squad the selectors have picked you would think the rest of the series, unless a half fit Watson comes in as a batsman.
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby LMA » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:31 am

Pidge wrote:I reckon this series has M Hussey written all over it.. im thinking he will dominate


:oops: call in Gretel Keileen, It's time to go
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Pup » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:16 am

LMA wrote:
Pidge wrote:I reckon this series has M Hussey written all over it.. im thinking he will dominate


:oops: call in Gretel Keileen, It's time to go


Ah he has had one innings in the series...!
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:09 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Right. So that's it for Hughes eh? Let's give him away right now because Bevan couldn't play a short ball. The reason Bevan was inadequate against the short ball was he decided not to work on it, but elected to become a virtual one-day specialist at International level. He took the soft option.

Hughes is made of stronger stuff than that, he's more the Steve Waugh "tough it out" type of player, and those guys invariably become good Test batsmen. And so Flintoff got him out ... so what? Panesar got Ponting out as well.


I didn't say that.

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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:30 am

Hmmmmm.............
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Re: a HUGHES problem for our top order?

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:47 pm

rod_rooster wrote:Flintoff at his absolute best could possibly trouble that area but he still doesn't quite have the pace.


I wouldn't like to face him at the moment, 150K plus around the wicket into my skinny ribs isn't my idea of fun times.
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