Best AFL player ever

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Best AFL player ever

Wayne Carey
37
20%
Gary Ablett Snr
36
19%
Gary Ablett Jr
14
8%
Mark Riccuito
8
4%
Nathan Buckley
9
5%
Michael Voss
14
8%
James Hird
12
6%
Jonothon Brown
4
2%
Adam Goodes
3
2%
Tony Lockett
7
4%
Jason Dunstall
7
4%
Tony Modra
4
2%
Paul Kelly
1
1%
Andrew Mcleod
6
3%
Simon Black
0
No votes
Shane Crawford
2
1%
Craig Braidley
7
4%
Steven Silvani
2
1%
Chris Judd
11
6%
Jason Ackermanis
2
1%
 
Total votes : 186

Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby dedja » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:17 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Carey so easily it isnt funny

How many flags did Ablett win? :-# :-#


So Martin Pike's better than Carey? ;)

Ablett won more Norm Smith's I reckon


Aaron Keating is definitely better than Ablett, in that marvellous 3 game AFL career ...
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby the joker » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:33 pm

Dutchy wrote:Carey so easily it isnt funny

How many flags did Ablett win? :-# :-#

he won one in 07 and he may win another this year :lol:
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby NFC » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:00 pm

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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Psyber » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:16 am

I voted for GA senior - dreadful man, freakish football talent.
Carey perhaps did more for his team over a long period.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby nuggety goodness » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:49 am

i think you'd have to break it up into categories... this has always been my problem, putting two or three totally different players up against eachother and seeing who is better... who is better at what?!?
my lists in no particular order of who I think were great players in my time of watching footy

Forwards
Lockett - goal kicking machine
Carey - just his presence lifted all around him
Ablett Snr - freakish goal sense

Midfield
Judd - love the way he goes about it, will beat anyone one on one
Ablett Jnr - his work at stoppages is amazing, how many times is there a ball up with him on the bottom of the pack, it's either that or he's away, just gets his hands on the footy so much
Cousins - ability to run all day and win the hard footy

Rucks
Cox - easily the best big man around due to his ability to play as an extra midfielder
Darcy - similar to Cox, could play up forward and didn't look out of place

Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Zorro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:46 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:i think you'd have to break it up into categories... this has always been my problem, putting two or three totally different players up against eachother and seeing who is better... who is better at what?!?
my lists in no particular order of who I think were great players in my time of watching footy

Forwards
Lockett - goal kicking machine
Carey - just his presence lifted all around him
Ablett Snr - freakish goal sense

Midfield
Judd - love the way he goes about it, will beat anyone one on one
Ablett Jnr - his work at stoppages is amazing, how many times is there a ball up with him on the bottom of the pack, it's either that or he's away, just gets his hands on the footy so much
Cousins - ability to run all day and win the hard footy

Rucks
Cox - easily the best big man around due to his ability to play as an extra midfielder
Darcy - similar to Cox, could play up forward and didn't look out of place

Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him


Agree it's hard to compare across categories. Appreciate the WB bias, but I think Rehn, Salmon, Wynd or Primus could mount a case before Darcy. Also would prob choose a Jakovich or Scarlett before Lake Harris.

You could add another category of selection called "Leadership", with membership of Kelly, Ricciuto, Buckley, Voss and Hird, in no particular order.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby nuggety goodness » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:59 pm

Zorro wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:i think you'd have to break it up into categories... this has always been my problem, putting two or three totally different players up against eachother and seeing who is better... who is better at what?!?
my lists in no particular order of who I think were great players in my time of watching footy

Forwards
Lockett - goal kicking machine
Carey - just his presence lifted all around him
Ablett Snr - freakish goal sense

Midfield
Judd - love the way he goes about it, will beat anyone one on one
Ablett Jnr - his work at stoppages is amazing, how many times is there a ball up with him on the bottom of the pack, it's either that or he's away, just gets his hands on the footy so much
Cousins - ability to run all day and win the hard footy

Rucks
Cox - easily the best big man around due to his ability to play as an extra midfielder
Darcy - similar to Cox, could play up forward and didn't look out of place

Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him


Agree it's hard to compare across categories. Appreciate the WB bias, but I think Rehn, Salmon, Wynd or Primus could mount a case before Darcy. Also would prob choose a Jakovich or Scarlett before Lake Harris.

You could add another category of selection called "Leadership", with membership of Kelly, Ricciuto, Buckley, Voss and Hird, in no particular order.


Jakovich and Salmon would definately get a guernsey in my squad, didn't think about them...

there are so many different categories you could put players in.

Courage, Selwood J
Contested Ball winning ability, Judd, Ablett Jnr
Contested Marks, Richo, Reiwoldt, Lloyd
Composure, Hird
Nigglers, Liberatore
Seagulls, Dal Santo
Precision, Gilbee
Fatties, Dew :lol:


no player has the complete package, but some definatley tick more boxes than others.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Dutchy » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:39 pm

Psyber wrote:I voted for GA senior - dreadful man, freakish football talent.
Carey perhaps did more for his team over a long period.


Perhaps? :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:04 pm

I only voted twice, for Ablett Snr and Carey. The rest not in their class. Ablett is the best player I've ever seen and only Carey comes close.

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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby silicone skyline » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:11 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:
Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him


How the f*** did you put those two blokes in the same category? :lol: :oops:
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby nuggety goodness » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:14 pm

silicone skyline wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him


How the f*** did you put those two blokes in the same category? :lol: :oops:


they are both defenders...

anyway, SOS was easily the best FB I've seen... but as mentioned earlier i forgot a couple which would edge Lake out, although i do think he is good at his job...
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby silicone skyline » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:19 pm

I know they're both defenders but this thread is talking about the best AFL player EVER.

There is a whole plethora of defenders that would more than EDGE Lake off that little list of yours.

I won't go into detail because to any football fan there are some bleeding standouts that make your Lake statement laughable.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Pup » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:20 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:
silicone skyline wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
Defenders
Silvagni - not the biggest bloke but an amazing athlete, hate Carlton, loved him
Harris(Lake) - again maybe biased but i rate him, stands tall when we need him


How the f*** did you put those two blokes in the same category? :lol: :oops:


they are both defenders...

anyway, SOS was easily the best FB I've seen... but as mentioned earlier i forgot a couple which would edge Lake out, although i do think he is good at his job...


Lake is not even in the ball park. Would not be in my top 10 Defenders from the past 15 years..
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Drop Bear » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:22 pm

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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Media Park » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:31 pm

Ablett Jnr
Carey
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby silicone skyline » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:39 pm

I think from the above stats it is clear there are only two people fighting for the crown.

Carey and Ablett.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby unknown source » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:43 pm

silicone skyline wrote:I think from the above stats it is clear there are only two people fighting for the crown.

Carey and Ablett.


your probably right but thought i would put some options up there..
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby saveyourlegs » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:10 pm

buckley and carey, both champs..
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Psyber » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:44 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Psyber wrote:I voted for GA senior - dreadful man, freakish football talent.
Carey perhaps did more for his team over a long period.
Perhaps? :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:
I wasn't paying much attention to Melbourne based football earlier in GA Seniors career, and didn't see enough of him to draw a conclusion - that's why I said "perhaps", to indicate it was speculation on my part not certainty.
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Re: Best AFL player ever

Postby Ruben Carter » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:20 pm

Can't believe Gavin Wanganeen has not even rated a mention here yet
Sheedy claims he's up there with the greatest players he's ever coached... and he had some pretty good ones ...
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