Port Magpies to be dissolved. Is it true?

[Macca19]

Any details on that WA experience?

From memory they tried it for one year, one of the clubs won the flag so they canned it. Not sure of any more details other than that.

A couple of other posters said East Perth won 4 years in a row as the Eagles reserves side.

Yeah having a look they won 3 in a row. There werent too many Eagles players in the premiership teams though, 7 was the most and that was in 2000, with 4 each in 01 and 02.

[Macca19]

You are thinking of the wrong thing. Port recieved a one-off grant. It is for the new training facilities it is going to build. It is from the AFL facility development fund. It is to be used for that only. Thats all. Last year, Adelaide recieved $1m from the AFL for the same thing (plus $1.xm from the SANFL), from the same fund for their new club room facilities. Hawthorn, Collingwood and Melbourne have also recieved money from this fund.

It is different to the equalisation fund that Melbourne, NM and the Bulldogs recieve on a recurring basis.

Macca, are the SANFL contributing $1mil toward facility development for the Power same as they did for the Crows, or did they do that purely for facility housed at AAMI?

I think the Crows took all the money from the SANFL special development fund (i think its called that) but obviously weve recieved a lot of money from the SANFL recently anyway.

[Punk Rooster]

Seriously, so long as the Power survive I think they should be able to wear their traditional guernsey, and Collingwood should be required to have an alternative strip.

absolute rubbish.

[dedja]

Seriously, so long as the Power survive I think they should be able to wear their traditional guernsey, and Collingwood should be required to have an alternative strip.

absolute rubbish.

Amen ... so much power to a bunch of eternal underachievers who can only manage to win one flag in 50 odd years even with a draw rigged in their favour.

[Punk Rooster]

Seriously, so long as the Power survive I think they should be able to wear their traditional guernsey, and Collingwood should be required to have an alternative strip.

absolute rubbish.

Amen ... so much power to a bunch of eternal underachievers who can only manage to win one flag in 50 odd years even with a draw rigged in their favour.

got fuggall to do with it- Collingwood were established in the AFL with a black & white striped jumper, so why would the AFL allow another Black & White jumper??

[dedja]

Collingwood were established in the VFL with a black & white striped jumper ...

... because everyone else has to have an away jumper and Collingwood are going to have to find one the next time they're away to North Melbourne anyway.

Port wearing their prison bars isn't going to clash with any other team ... and both Collingwood and Port will have away jumpers.

What's the problem then Mr Precious?

[therisingblues]

Seriously, so long as the Power survive I think they should be able to wear their traditional guernsey, and Collingwood should be required to have an alternative strip.

absolute rubbish.

Amen ... so much power to a bunch of eternal underachievers who can only manage to win one flag in 50 odd years even with a draw rigged in their favour.

got fuggall to do with it- Collingwood were established in the AFL with a black & white striped jumper, so why would the AFL allow another Black & White jumper??

So why is it okay for Geelong, Carlton and North Melbourne to all wear Blue and White but no one else is allowed to wear Collingwood colours?
I think the premiership argument is very relevant. Port is one of the most successful sporting clubs in the world, and Collingwood are rank underachievers. So should Port have to bow to them?
Answer: Port's bag of flags were won in the SANFL. Collingwood's handful were won in the VFL.
This is the same reason the Vics consider Coleman a better full forward to Farmer; obviously goals kicked in the the old SANFL don't count as much as those kicked in the old VFL.
It seems to me that you defending Collingwood leaves you on the same side of the fence as those that refuse to allow the great achievers of SANFL their dues. You are going to need to change that signature of yours.

[Punk Rooster]

Collingwood were established in the VFL with a black & white striped jumper ...

... because everyone else has to have an away jumper and Collingwood are going to have to find one the next time they're away to North Melbourne anyway.

Port wearing their prison bars isn't going to clash with any other team ... and both Collingwood and Port will have away jumpers.

What's the problem then Mr Precious?

Collingwood AFL- 1990-2009
Port Power AFL- 1997-2009... do the maths Ms Precious

[CUTTERMAN]

Collingwood were established in the VFL with a black & white striped jumper ...

... because everyone else has to have an away jumper and Collingwood are going to have to find one the next time they're away to North Melbourne anyway.

Port wearing their prison bars isn't going to clash with any other team ... and both Collingwood and Port will have away jumpers.

What's the problem then Mr Precious?

Collingwood AFL- 1990-2009
Port Power AFL- 1997-2009... do the maths Ms Precious

Collingwood actually got their geurnsey design when Vic played SA in a state game and SA wore a jumper with black and white stripes, the wallywood leeches thought it looked good and the rest is history.

[CUTTERMAN]

Punk, quit making like a skunk.....cause like Collingwood, you stink you blind fool!
Collingwood would have to be the most selfrightiousnavel gazing knob twiddlers in Aussie Rules history. As they say, "History is in the eyes of the victors"...but Collingwood haven't won much, so I don't know what they've got going for them.
It's about time that Afl and Vfl flags were differentiated. Daydreamer pretenders!

[Punk Rooster]

So why is it okay for Geelong, Carlton and North Melbourne to all wear Blue and White but no one else is allowed to wear Collingwood colours?

You will have to ask the VFL of days gone by, however, the AFL obviously learnt from the VFL's mistake, & refused to go back down that path again.

I think the premiership argument is very relevant.

why? because it supports your point in this particular argument?

Port is one of the most successful sporting clubs in the world, and Collingwood are rank underachievers. So should Port have to bow to them?

um, because Port are joining a competition Collingwood were already in? Your logic would be sound had Collingwood joined the SANFL....

Answer: Port's bag of flags were won in the SANFL. Collingwood's handful were won in the VFL.

not sure how this is relevant? does that mean Essendon & Carlton can also wear Black & White stripes because they've won more flags than Collingwood?

This is the same reason the Vics consider Coleman a better full forward to Farmer; obviously goals kicked in the the old SANFL don't count as much as those kicked in the old VFL.
It seems to me that you defending Collingwood leaves you on the same side of the fence as those that refuse to allow the great achievers of SANFL their dues. You are going to need to change that signature of yours.

[/quote]Wrong & wrong. When it comes to comparing goal kicking records, best & fairests & individual feats,as long as it was achieved in the highest level (at the time), it's comprable (ie SANFL/WAFL/VFL were on equal footing until the advent of the AFL, or arguably 1985-1987). The SANFL/WAFL/VFL are not comparable to the AFL now.
So Ken Farmer's record is superior to Coventry, Coleman & Lockett, which cannot be argued along the lines you wish to- it's outcome is not linked to the "Port should have first rights to Black & White" argument.

[Punk Rooster]

Punk, quit making like a skunk.....cause like Collingwood, you stink you blind fool!
Collingwood would have to be the most selfrightiousnavel gazing knob twiddlers in Aussie Rules history. As they say, "History is in the eyes of the victors"...but Collingwood haven't won much, so I don't know what they've got going for them.
It's about time that Afl and Vfl flags were differentiated. Daydreamer pretenders!

what your erudite post ignores, is the fact that Collingwood was an established club in the AFL when Port sought entry- how hard is that for you to understand?
Are all Sturt supporters morons?

[jointman]

i couldn't beleive that the roos had to change there jumper when it was there home game or else they would of got fined....what a joke...

[dedja]

Topic back on track ...

Matthew Richardson strongly defended the Magpies in the media today but the silence from tha SANFL is deafening.

As an aside, if I rewind back to when I was at Footy Park for the '82 preliminary final and if someone said to me at the end of that game that Port would be in an expanded VFL (AFL) in 15 years with the Port Adelaide identity but be called the Power and have a black, white and teal jumper, a new club would stay in the SANFL and keep the magpies name, both sons of Cornsey would play for the Power, Kane would wear Grave Danger's number, Tony McGuinness would be working for Power, and in 2009 the Port Magpies would be 2nd to bottom with 1 win, not won a flag for 10 years and apparently be broke and ready to be discarded from the SANFL, and Cornsey would write a newspaper article defending the Magpies to keep them in competition, I would have not only thought that that you were smoking some pretty good hooch, but would have probably knocked your lights out.

Jeez, haven't things changed a tad in 27 years?

[Punk Rooster]

Port operating as a split personality was never going to work in my mind.
I would not be upset if they wound themselves up.

[dedja]

Port operating as a split personality was never going to work in my mind.
I would not be upset if they wound themselves up.

That's fine, it's your right to say that, but remember it wasn't that long ago that the Roosters were in huge financial trouble if their Pokies venue didn't finally get approval, the Legs had to sell Woods St to remain viable, Sturt and then Glenelg were basket cases on and off the field, so if we just let all these clubs die then what would we have left?

Believe me, I would never have thought that I would be defending the Port Magpies but the comp would never be the same without the bastards.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

[So why is it okay for Geelong, Carlton and North Melbourne to all wear Blue and White but no one else is allowed to wear Collingwood colours?

Lets see, I always see Carlton as being just the one colour, Navy Blue. The white is only there for the cfc logo and numbers. To my knowledge their club song, mottos, emblems etc dont suggest that white is one of thier colours. Sturt, Norwood and West dont have white in their colours just because the numbers on their backs are white.
Geelong are Navy Blue and White. North Melbourne are Royal Blue and White. Different colours, otherwise you will be saying that the Crows came in with the same colours as Fitzroy, and the Gold Coast will be coming in with the same colours as the Crows.
So in my opinion, no 2 AFL clubs have the same colours.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

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[Psyber]

Seriously, so long as the Power survive I think they should be able to wear their traditional guernsey, and Collingwood should be required to have an alternative strip.

absolute rubbish.

Amen ... so much power to a bunch of eternal underachievers who can only manage to win one flag in 50 odd years even with a draw rigged in their favour.

I was obviously being a bit too subtle..
I was making a reference to the old "picture of their home" on the guernsey joke.
However, I do seriously believe that Collingwood should have to have an alternative strip if everyone else has to, and that they should be made to travel as much as other teams do.

[dedja]

I was making a reference to the old "picture of their home" on the guernsey joke.
However, I do seriously believe that Collingwood should have to have an alternative strip if everyone else has to, and that they should be made to travel as much as other teams do.

That's why I want them to wear it as well! ... and good to see the AFL giving handouts to the Power so that the club is now on welfare like most of their supporters

Didn't realise the guernsey debate would cause so much commotion though