Port Magpies to be dissolved. Is it true?

[cje]

AS MUCH AS WE DONT LIKE THEM UNLESS YOU SUPPORT THEM ALL CLUBS NEED THEM AS WHEN THEY ARE PLAYING WELL THEIR SUPPORTERS GO TO OTHER GROUNDS AND OPPOSITION CLUBS RECIEVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF $$$$$$$$$$$ IT JUST SO HAPPENS THEY ARE NO GOOD AT THE MINUTE I THINK THEY ARE FEELING THE STRAIN FROM THE FORMATION OF POWER JUST LIKE GLENELG DID WHEN CROWS WERE FORMED IN REALITY CROWS RAPED GLENELG POWER RAPED MAGGIES.THE COMP JUST WOULDNT BE THE SAME WITHOUT THEM.

[Wedgie]

Please don't yell cje.

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

[Bluedemon]

Here is the article that Wedgie was talking about

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 96,00.html

[Big Phil]

Please don't yell cje.

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

Agree about Cornsey's artcile, except I don't understand why he has to have a sly dig at some Centrals supporters, calling them "baseness" !!??

Oops, typo on my part

[CUTTERMAN]

For all those that oppose what Rucci is suggesting (fair enough by the way), what I would like to know is how you feel the Port Adelaide Magpies can increase their revenue streams into the club for it to be saved? What needs to happen to cash Port up to the point where they are viable in the SANFL?

I would prefer the Power fields a reserves side called the "Port Magpies" in the SANFL. All their AFL listed players would play for that team thus heavily reducing player payments for the Magpies. (So far as I understand it) This would also get the Maggies and Power working together instead of trying to screw each other over (which I read, seems to be happening).
But before that happens, I'd like to see them fight to exist as they are. The Power needs to understand who the parent club is. Now I am not sure what legal hocus-pocus went into the wording of the Power's constitution or whatever they claim to be, but the fact of the matter is that a side in the SANFL known as the Magpies far predated one in the AFL called the Power, and I am surprised at what lengths some of the latter are going to just to strangle off the memory of the team they all once loved.
Aside from all that, they should have a march, a fundraiser, a rally....something. I would even support them in that. I will not willing allow the old foe die so quick. Then with their cash they could purchase some assets.
Perhaps even a "Magpies car-wash" would be a winner out that way. Get some kids who love the club to wash cars in the Alberton car-park. Participants get free tickets to games and all proceeds go to the club. That might be a drop on the bucket, but a few events like that builds the drops up over time.

This goes for both SA AFL teams. There is no way, never, on no terms whatsoever do I ever want to see either team have their own reserves team in the SANFL, this would be an uneven playing field and create alot of bitterness in the SANFL and would kill off the standard of our local comp. I'm stuffed if I'm gonna watch Sturt developed and bred kids play for Power or Crows against Sturt. The end of footy for me.

[Sojourner]

I particularly liked this section of Cornseys article!

"It is not living in the past to enjoy and celebrate the traditions that are the South Australian National Football League. Indeed there were almost as many people at the local footy last week as at the Port/Fremantle game. It is alive and vibrant. Port Adelaide Magpies, despite any temporary difficulties, are a vital part of that success".

[CUTTERMAN]

Please don't yell cje.

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

Agree about Cornsey's artcile, except I don't understand why he has to have a sly dig at some Centrals supporters, calling them "baseless" !!??

From Cornsey's article.
Quote - "Even the current Central District club - the most successful of any era, despite the baseness of some of its supporters - carries its current successes gracefully, even with a hint of humility that was never obvious at Alberton. So maybe that fabled football God is at work, dispensing his football karma". End Quote.
I hate it when the media get it wrong! BP he wasn't saying that Centrals supporters have no base, then you'd be right. He said "baseness", by which I think he means "crude". In the Roget's Thesaurus, "Base" (presumably as Cornsey means it) has meanings of, bad, dishonourable, shameful, vicious, cowardly, plebian.
It's also interesting to note his views on the footy Gods and his thoughts on Karma and the PAFC! Sounds familiar.

[am Bays]

I think Cornesy is agreeing with a few CDFC.info Centrals' supporters, when he refers to baseness, who bemoan the use of flares by a minority group of Centrals supporters, i.e the flare throwers exhibit the "baseness" behaviour.

However it has to be said all clubs have a minority group of supporters that the clubs could do without.

[Big Phil]

Please don't yell cje.

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

Agree about Cornsey's artcile, except I don't understand why he has to have a sly dig at some Centrals supporters, calling them "baseless" !!??

From Cornsey's article.
Quote - "Even the current Central District club - the most successful of any era, despite the baseness of some of its supporters - carries its current successes gracefully, even with a hint of humility that was never obvious at Alberton. So maybe that fabled football God is at work, dispensing his football karma". End Quote.
I hate it when the media get it wrong! BP he wasn't saying that Centrals supporters have no base, then you'd be right. He said "baseness", by which I think he means "crude". In the Roget's Thesaurus, "Base" (presumably as Cornsey means it) has meanings of, bad, dishonourable, shameful, vicious, cowardly, plebian.
It's also interesting to note his views on the footy Gods and his thoughts on Karma and the PAFC! Sounds familiar.

Yeah, that's good, I realised I made a boo boo with typing it, changed my post now !!

[StrayDog]

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

Agree about Cornsey's artcile, except I don't understand why he has to have a sly dig at some Centrals supporters, calling them "baseness" !!??

Can't be too precious here Phil, we've given plenty back over the years, albeit mostly without the backing of mainstream commercial media.

Still, relations with the poor old soul haven't been the same since the body of a donkey and his handsome visage adorned a Centrals race banner in 1982.

[baysman]

If the Port Magpies football club dies, a part of every other SANFL club will die with it.

A really good article by G.C. But it would take a mammoth effort to get the interests of South Australian football supporters, let alone Port Power supporters to take notice of this, and regain interest in the Port Magpies and more importantly the SANFL. I personally have many friends who I grew up with that were Maggie supporters. My childhood was spent getting jibes and sneers at being a Bay supporter in Port Adelaide ( Grand Final loss after Grand Final loss ). I still keep in touch with these people and I can tell you that not ONE of them follows the Magpies, let alone knows of their position both financially or on the field. They believe that the Power ARE Port Adelaide. I agree with G.C view on the matter. It is a corporate team as the Crows are. There is no history in either team. It's the same as in 1991, almost every SA football supporter went AWOL and followed the AFL / VFL because the media were telling them to follow this , because this is where the $$$$ is. T

[Apachebulldog]

My dear friends unfortunately the Magpies died back in 1996, 80% of their supporters turned their back on the club and joined the Power bandwagon which you really cannot blame them. So i guess it is pretty tough today to hand out hard earned money by supporting two clubs, really they should of folded back in 1996.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[shanghaied]

All for it.

Westies, Bays and WWT can spread their zones a bit and Strut can have Blackwood back.

[MightyEagles]

For all those that oppose what Rucci is suggesting (fair enough by the way), what I would like to know is how you feel the Port Adelaide Magpies can increase their revenue streams into the club for it to be saved? What needs to happen to cash Port up to the point where they are viable in the SANFL?

I would prefer the Power fields a reserves side called the "Port Magpies" in the SANFL. All their AFL listed players would play for that team thus heavily reducing player payments for the Magpies. (So far as I understand it) This would also get the Maggies and Power working together instead of trying to screw each other over (which I read, seems to be happening).
But before that happens, I'd like to see them fight to exist as they are. The Power needs to understand who the parent club is. Now I am not sure what legal hocus-pocus went into the wording of the Power's constitution or whatever they claim to be, but the fact of the matter is that a side in the SANFL known as the Magpies far predated one in the AFL called the Power, and I am surprised at what lengths some of the latter are going to just to strangle off the memory of the team they all once loved.
Aside from all that, they should have a march, a fundraiser, a rally....something. I would even support them in that. I will not willing allow the old foe die so quick. Then with their cash they could purchase some assets.
Perhaps even a "Magpies car-wash" would be a winner out that way. Get some kids who love the club to wash cars in the Alberton car-park. Participants get free tickets to games and all proceeds go to the club. That might be a drop on the bucket, but a few events like that builds the drops up over time.

This goes for both SA AFL teams. There is no way, never, on no terms whatsoever do I ever want to see either team have their own reserves team in the SANFL, this would be an uneven playing field and create alot of bitterness in the SANFL and would kill off the standard of our local comp. I'm stuffed if I'm gonna watch Sturt developed and bred kids play for Power or Crows against Sturt. The end of footy for me.

It was brought up on 5aa on the sports show.It was tried in WA and didn't work. They only place it does is in Victoria with the agreement between the 10 AFL Victorian sides and the VFL.

[Psyber]

.. I would prefer the Power fields a reserves side called the "Port Magpies" in the SANFL. All their AFL listed players would play for that team thus heavily reducing player payments for the Magpies. (So far as I understand it) This would also get the Maggies and Power working together instead of trying to screw each other over (which I read, seems to be happening).

I can hardly imagine Sturt, Norwood, or any other SANFL team, being happy to find its juniors drafted by the Power playing against it in a Port Adelaide SANFL team...
In Victoria every team can have its reserve team in the VFL, but here a Power reserve team and a Crows reserve team would dominate the local competition after taking many players out of the other teams.
One may as well disband the SANFL..

[baysman]

My dear friends unfortunately the Magpies died back in 1996, 80% of their supporters turned their back on the club

Yup.....and 80% of SA football supporters turned their backs on their own clubs in 1991. Can't just blame Port supporters. Turncoats the lot of them !

[Psyber]

My dear friends unfortunately the Magpies died back in 1996, 80% of their supporters turned their back on the club

Yup.....and 80% of SA football supporters turned their backs on their own clubs in 1991. Can't just blame Port supporters. Turncoats the lot of them !

Back when it all started, I was all for letting the Magpies leave the SANFL entirely and join the Alternative Football League run by the Victorians.
Then we could have fortified the player retention scheme to maintain a stronger SANFL minus its traitorious rotten apple.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Please don't yell cje.

Very good article about it by Cornsey in the paper today, that's a couple of good articles he's written this year, a changed man!

Agree about Cornsey's artcile, except I don't understand why he has to have a sly dig at some Centrals supporters, calling them "baseness" !!??

Oops, typo on my part

I think Cornesy is being polite, and using the word "baseness" instead of "bandwagon".

[therisingblues]

[b]I would prefer the Power fields a reserves side called the "Port Magpies" in the SANFL.

This goes for both SA AFL teams. There is no way, never, on no terms whatsoever do I ever want to see either team have their own reserves team in the SANFL, this would be an uneven playing field and create alot of bitterness in the SANFL and would kill off the standard of our local comp. I'm stuffed if I'm gonna watch Sturt developed and bred kids play for Power or Crows against Sturt. The end of footy for me.

It was brought up on 5aa on the sports show.It was tried in WA and didn't work. They only place it does is in Victoria with the agreement between the 10 AFL Victorian sides and the VFL.

Any details on that WA experience?
Cutterman, Psyber, (or anyone) would you be able to put together a side on paper showing what a Port Power reserves side would look like? And where the members of that reserves side were drafted from?
I am interested in seeing who comes from interstate and who are juniors in the fictitious reserves side. Obviously a recruit from over the border isn't necessarily draining the depth of the other SANFL clubs, but I don't follow the AFL at all from over here and don't know much about who's on who's list, so I can't even begin to guess about what impact an AFL reserves side would have in the SANFL. Except that perhaps the standard of SANFL being higher than the WAFL, an AFL side's reserves would fit in a bit better?
Anyway, if it is feasible I would prefer they still existed rather than die off altogether, and I'd also prefer that they made the current system work before they become the Power's ressies.

[FlyingHigh]

[b]I would prefer the Power fields a reserves side called the "Port Magpies" in the SANFL.

This goes for both SA AFL teams. There is no way, never, on no terms whatsoever do I ever want to see either team have their own reserves team in the SANFL, this would be an uneven playing field and create alot of bitterness in the SANFL and would kill off the standard of our local comp. I'm stuffed if I'm gonna watch Sturt developed and bred kids play for Power or Crows against Sturt. The end of footy for me.

It was brought up on 5aa on the sports show.It was tried in WA and didn't work. They only place it does is in Victoria with the agreement between the 10 AFL Victorian sides and the VFL.

Any details on that WA experience?
Cutterman, Psyber, (or anyone) would you be able to put together a side on paper showing what a Port Power reserves side would look like? And where the members of that reserves side were drafted from?
I am interested in seeing who comes from interstate and who are juniors in the fictitious reserves side. Obviously a recruit from over the border isn't necessarily draining the depth of the other SANFL clubs, but I don't follow the AFL at all from over here and don't know much about who's on who's list, so I can't even begin to guess about what impact an AFL reserves side would have in the SANFL. Except that perhaps the standard of SANFL being higher than the WAFL, an AFL side's reserves would fit in a bit better?
Anyway, if it is feasible I would prefer they still existed rather than die off altogether, and I'd also prefer that they made the current system work before they become the Power's ressies.

Earlier this decade all West Coast players were aligned to East Perth, and from memory they won four flags in a row and it was virtually playing for second. Believe there was a lot of animosity about it.
Think they also tried something maybe in the mid-90's where Freo and Eagles players were aligned to four clubs each, but not sure whether this meant WA-originating players had to shift their WAFL club.