HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Dashin]

[quote='the wonder elephant"]Just to let you know, Lobethal had 8 recruits not playing because of injuries, or so i've been told. If they can get all of these guys on the track I think they'll certainly compete with the likes of Ironbank. I highly doubt you'll see Loby go down.

In HFL league history, has any team ever admitted to just losing a game with a full team on the park in a match they maybe should have won , without having 'injuries' or 'Norwood' or 'work commitments'?

Gee whizz, you Ironbank blokes get defensive pretty quickly, you're the second bloke that's had a crack at my comment. I was merely trying jump to the defence of a team who in the middle of a seriously long losing streak and just got pumped by the second worst side in the comp. Guys on here are saying they should be demoted back to the country div and i'm just attempting to say that i don't think all is quite as bad as it may seem. It's your first win of the year...so don't get too arrogant! Plus, I don't even play for the tigers.

think arrogant is your middle name dashin ...dont see u sticking up for ironbank even tho we have only 1 game ??and where did i say loby should be demoted ? all i said at any given time all clubs have players out injured so as far as i am concerened this should never be an excuse [/quote]

Well if by me stating, as a third party, that had loby had these 8 players in their a-grade side, they would have been a more competitive side, makes me arrogant....then yes Wonder Elephant, I am arrogant.

[BALLHOG]

think arrogant is your middle name dashin ...dont see u sticking up for ironbank even tho we have only 1 game ??and where did i say loby should be demoted ? all i said at any given time all clubs have players out injured so as far as i am concerened this should never be an excuse

I reckon any side with 8 key players out due to injury can legitimately use that as a "reason" for underperforming. Mick Malthouse even said it a few weeks ago and if it's good enough for an AFL team then surely it's even more valid for Hills Footy. Reasons and excuses are different.
There are reasons each week for why a team won or lost and having 8 better players out is a reason why they got pumped.

Did Bridgy have any players out on the weekend Country Vic? looks like they got a fair pasting. Are the lads a little worried about the next two matches after the weekends result.

We had a couple out but wouldn't dare use it as an excuse We were with them at 1/4 time but unfortunately couldn't keep the pace up for all 4. As i said in an earlier post Hahndork really impressed me with their overall game, a very even performance.

Not worried about the next 2 weeks, clearly they are 2 of the best sides going around but it'll be good to see how our boys go against them. Always up for a challenge and it doesn't get much more challenging then the next 2. I think the players will be pretty keen to get out there and put in a good showing after the weekend gone.[/quote]

Would have thought with the money spent this year Bridgewater should have been pushing for a finals spot. People around the place must be a little disapointed with the results so far.

[the wonder elephant]

[quote='the wonder elephant"]Just to let you know, Lobethal had 8 recruits not playing because of injuries, or so i've been told. If they can get all of these guys on the track I think they'll certainly compete with the likes of Ironbank. I highly doubt you'll see Loby go down.

In HFL league history, has any team ever admitted to just losing a game with a full team on the park in a match they maybe should have won , without having 'injuries' or 'Norwood' or 'work commitments'?

Gee whizz, you Ironbank blokes get defensive pretty quickly, you're the second bloke that's had a crack at my comment. I was merely trying jump to the defence of a team who in the middle of a seriously long losing streak and just got pumped by the second worst side in the comp. Guys on here are saying they should be demoted back to the country div and i'm just attempting to say that i don't think all is quite as bad as it may seem. It's your first win of the year...so don't get too arrogant! Plus, I don't even play for the tigers.

think arrogant is your middle name dashin ...dont see u sticking up for ironbank even tho we have only 1 game ??and where did i say loby should be demoted ? all i said at any given time all clubs have players out injured so as far as i am concerened this should never be an excuse

Well if by me stating, as a third party, that had loby had these 8 players in their a-grade side, they would have been a more competitive side, makes me arrogant....then yes Wonder Elephant, I am arrogant.[/quote]
didnt hear you defending bridgy over the last few seasons either dashin !!

[CountryVic]

Would have thought with the money spent this year Bridgewater should have been pushing for a finals spot. People around the place must be a little disapointed with the results so far.[/quote]
At which teams expense? Lets not forget how far back Bridgy was, bottom 2 by a long, long way. I think any side we have played to date would say Bridgy have improved out of site on last year, also our results even losses show this.

Not sure what expectations people would have but there has clearly been HUGE improvement in the club including reserves and it's definately going in the right direction but it doesn't happen in one season.

I do believe if we can get a roll on we will still push for a spot but we have made it hard with the start we had and the results throughout the league on the weekend.

[BALLHOG]

Would have thought with the money spent this year Bridgewater should have been pushing for a finals spot. People around the place must be a little disapointed with the results so far.

At which teams expense? Lets not forget how far back Bridgy was, bottom 2 by a long, long way. I think any side we have played to date would say Bridgy have improved out of site on last year, also our results even losses show this.

Not sure what expectations people would have but there has clearly been HUGE improvement in the club including reserves and it's definately going in the right direction but it doesn't happen in one season.

I do believe if we can get a roll on we will still push for a spot but we have made it hard with the start we had and the results throughout the league on the weekend.[/quote]

Don't know if I would say huge improvement they haven't conquered any teams above them yet.

[Gervais]

think arrogant is your middle name dashin ...dont see u sticking up for ironbank even tho we have only 1 game ??and where did i say loby should be demoted ? all i said at any given time all clubs have players out injured so as far as i am concerened this should never be an excuse

I reckon any side with 8 key players out due to injury can legitimately use that as a "reason" for underperforming. Mick Malthouse even said it a few weeks ago and if it's good enough for an AFL team then surely it's even more valid for Hills Footy. Reasons and excuses are different.
There are reasons each week for why a team won or lost and having 8 better players out is a reason why they got pumped.

Did Bridgy have any players out on the weekend Country Vic? looks like they got a fair pasting. Are the lads a little worried about the next two matches after the weekends result.

We had a couple out but wouldn't dare use it as an excuse We were with them at 1/4 time but unfortunately couldn't keep the pace up for all 4. As i said in an earlier post Hahndork really impressed me with their overall game, a very even performance.

Not worried about the next 2 weeks, clearly they are 2 of the best sides going around but it'll be good to see how our boys go against them. Always up for a challenge and it doesn't get much more challenging then the next 2. I think the players will be pretty keen to get out there and put in a good showing after the weekend gone.

Would have thought with the money spent this year Bridgewater should have been pushing for a finals spot. People around the place must be a little disapointed with the results so far.[/quote]

Far be it from me to stick up for Bridgewater, but they are coming from a long way back. They were a very poor team last year (only marginally better than Lobey). Ballhog, you should know better than most.

I'm sure they realise that the rebuilding process is a 2-3 year proposition. Their big challenge is to keep hold of some of the 2009 recruits (Eckerman, Devries, McLean, etc) in 2010. If they do, they will free up points and be in a position to supplement their squad even further.

It's unrealistic to to think you can go from a bad 9th placed team to finals based on a few recruits.

[CountryVic]

Don't know if I would say huge improvement they haven't conquered any teams above them yet.[/quote]

Well i would say your a pretty hard man to please BH. We are not satisfied with our results to date and now we can and must improve but having beaten 3 different sides is a big improvement in my eyes considering Loby were the only victories last year and not in overly convincing fashion either.

Losing margin is considerably lower this year and also the fashion of our losses, wins over Ironbank and Barker are massive turnarounds to the tune of 30 odd goals each. Lofty have the same points to play with as us remember so how would you expect a struggling team to keep up with the likes of them in one year?

[BALLHOG]

Don't know if I would say huge improvement they haven't conquered any teams above them yet.

Well i would say your a pretty hard man to please BH. We are not satisfied with our results to date and now we can and must improve but having beaten 3 different sides is a big improvement in my eyes considering Loby were the only victories last year and not in overly convincing fashion either.

Losing margin is considerably lower this year and also the fashion of our losses, wins over Ironbank and Barker are massive turnarounds to the tune of 30 odd goals each. Lofty have the same points to play with as us remember so how would you expect a struggling team to keep up with the likes of them in one year?[/quote]

Yeah I am hard to please but I feel for the young lads at the club and just hope they don't get ****** over next season with all the imports leaving which is what usually happens. If the club is building these recruits have to stay on for the next two to three years at least.

[CountryVic]

Yeah I am hard to please but I feel for the young lads at the club and just hope they don't get F***** over next season with all the imports leaving which is what usually happens. If the club is building these recruits have to stay on for the next two to three years at least.[/quote]
I agree they will need to with a points system the way it is players must stay because you can't recruit max point players each year to replace the ones gone. I see you disregard the improvement also, you seem a real positive thinker. Interesting you seem so passionate about players leaving a club.
Things are on the up at Bridgy with alot of people putting in a tonne of work for the future of the club on and off the field, it doesn't all turn around in a few months but it's definately heading there.

[The Gimp]

Things are on the up at Bridgy with alot of people putting in a tonne of work for the future of the club on and off the field, it doesn't all turn around in a few months but it's definately heading there.

CV, what off-field improvements are being put into place? Surely the facilities are the first thing that should be improved, I still reckon thats one of the main reasons Bridgy have so much trouble keeping their recruits each year. I mean, who would seriously want to train/play there 2-3 times a week in the middle of winter?

[BALLHOG]

Yeah I am hard to please but I feel for the young lads at the club and just hope they don't get F***** over next season with all the imports leaving which is what usually happens. If the club is building these recruits have to stay on for the next two to three years at least.

I agree they will need to with a points system the way it is players must stay because you can't recruit max point players each year to replace the ones gone. I see you disregard the improvement also, you seem a real positive thinker. Interesting you seem so passionate about players leaving a club.
Things are on the up at Bridgy with alot of people putting in a tonne of work for the future of the club on and off the field, it doesn't all turn around in a few months but it's definately heading there.[/quote]

Will you be at Bridgewater next year?

[eric the EEL]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

[azzaisbest]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

There are a couple of ex birdwood players playing there this year

[CountryVic]

Will you be at Bridgewater next year?[/quote]
Yep

[couchie]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

There are a couple of ex birdwood players playing there this year

Rowett and Lowe play there now

[false]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

There are a couple of ex birdwood players playing there this year

Rowett and Lowe play there now

I don't really understand why people would want to move on... after 2 years of struggling and not getting the results we're finally getting those results we've worked so hard for.

[Rooster]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

i always think its classic when guys play A grade in a losing side for years, and complain because the club doesn't have the recruits it needs to win... so they get the recruits... and it turns out there not good enough to play in the A's in a winning side...or on the fringe... so they leave.. so maybe teams like birdwood and bridgewater, rather than recruiting well like they both have, should just stay losing.....so people dont get upset. if you're not good enough to play A's in a winning side... deal with it, and make the B grade as good as it can be.

go figure.

[BOOted]

After a conversation with a current Birdwood player (somewhat starved for opportunity) he's suggested he's keen on a move to Payneham, with Birdwood enjoying some success I'm curious what the link with Payneham and if he is not getting the opportunity he desires at Birdwood, would he get it at a div 2 club in the city?

i always think its classic when guys play A grade in a losing side for years, and complain because the club doesn't have the recruits it needs to win... so they get the recruits... and it turns out there not good enough to play in the A's in a winning side...or on the fringe... so they leave.. so maybe teams like birdwood and bridgewater, rather than recruiting well like they both have, should just stay losing.....so people dont get upset. if you're not good enough to play A's in a winning side... deal with it, and make the B grade as good as it can be.

go figure.

Maybe the player in question is a fringe player and may not quite be an A grade starter each week and realising that might feel that he wants to play A grade somewhere else maybe closer to home if he is not getting the run he feels he deserves.
i dont think not recruiting would be good for teams like birdwood or bridgy, i am sure majority of players are happier winning but maybe not so happy with how much attention the new recruits get. Could be a case of jelousy. But if the player in question feels like he doesnt matter to the club anymore now that they have start recruits and feels he would be happier elsewhere then thats valid. winning games does not necessarily mean happy players.

[Bat Pad]

How hard is it to pick a clear favourite this year. There are four sides right now who you couldn't split in Uraidla, Lofty, Hahndorf and Blackwood. Plus the next 2 weeks will show exactly where Onkas are at, might be able to throw them into the mix. Birdwood a bit of an unknown quantity, get flogged by Onkas, never really threaten Uris, Lofty or Hahndorf, then beat Blackwood on their home turf. Perhaps a flash in the pan but time will tell. Would have to give them some confidence. Top 5 too close to call at the moment, order or teams involved.

[BALLHOG]

Country Vic what is your role at the club? Bat Pad in answer to your question is very tight at the top but still think Mt Lofty are the team to beat, sounds like they had alot out against Uraidla on the weekend.