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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Swamp Donkey » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:20 am

Port you are a disgrace. I think the heave-ho attitude of Dean Brogan (a non-talented player telling everyone how tough he is and how weak they are) typifies Ports attitude at the moment. Brogan pull your head in mate, your a knob!
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby hearts on fire » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:24 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:Port you are a disgrace. I think the heave-ho attitude of Dean Brogan (a non-talented player telling everyone how tough he is and how weak they are) typifies Ports attitude at the moment. Brogan pull your head in mate, your a knob!

Yes Brogan is a knob, but a non-talented player? you have got to be kidding.

Brogan would have to be up there in the top 5 ruckman in the AFL.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Psyber » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:24 pm

Thanks Port for making me feel better about the Crows performance against the Saints.. ;)
I agree Brogan is a reasonably good ruckman, just undisciplined.
It appears, though, that he is not the only player in the team who thinks "toughness" is something you exhibit off the ball more than in your attack on it.
There does appear to be an attitude problem at Port - impressive against the Hawks and barely even competitive against the Saints.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Pup » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:36 pm

hearts on fire wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:Port you are a disgrace. I think the heave-ho attitude of Dean Brogan (a non-talented player telling everyone how tough he is and how weak they are) typifies Ports attitude at the moment. Brogan pull your head in mate, your a knob!

Yes Brogan is a knob, but a non-talented player? you have got to be kidding.

Brogan would have to be up there in the top 5 ruckman in the AFL.


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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Pac-Man » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:03 pm

The problem with Brogan is , in his first 3 seasons he was told to harden up , too soft for a big man. Now with confidence and bulking up he is feeling he can through himself around with attitude and give the Power that toughness that mark Williams craves.

Dean Brogan is so scary, monsters look under there bed for Brogans.

If Tredrea is Ports best forward, they are in real trouble. Yes he has kicked a couple of goals over the last 3 weeks but when you are the focal point in bigs wins you are bound to jag a few.

Chad Cornes is another who is playing on reputation. Dom Cassisi is the worst captain in the AFL , Brett Ebert wouldnt be playing in any other clubs forward line and when Troy Chaplin is your best defender there isnt alot of depth.

With small crowds at Port Power games its only a matter of time before they fold , hand outs will only keep you alive for so long. Dont think we will have to worry about the bye when the Gold Coast are introduced.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby auto » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:07 pm

Pac-Man wrote:The problem with Brogan is , in his first 3 seasons he was told to harden up , too soft for a big man. Now with confidence and bulking up he is feeling he can through himself around with attitude and give the Power that toughness that mark Williams craves.

Dean Brogan is so scary, monsters look under there bed for Brogans.

If Tredrea is Ports best forward, they are in real trouble. Yes he has kicked a couple of goals over the last 3 weeks but when you are the focal point in bigs wins you are bound to jag a few.

Chad Cornes is another who is playing on reputation. Dom Cassisi is the worst captain in the AFL , Brett Ebert wouldnt be playing in any other clubs forward line and when Troy Chaplin is your best defender there isnt alot of depth.

With small crowds at Port Power games its only a matter of time before they fold , hand outs will only keep you alive for so long. Dont think we will have to worry about the bye when the Gold Coast are introduced.


Not sure thats even worth a reply but ppppppfffftttt.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby jackpot jim » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:48 pm

Pac-Man wrote:The problem with Brogan is , in his first 3 seasons he was told to harden up , too soft for a big man. Now with confidence and bulking up he is feeling he can through himself around with attitude and give the Power that toughness that mark Williams craves.

Dean Brogan is so scary, monsters look under there bed for Brogans.

If Tredrea is Ports best forward, they are in real trouble. Yes he has kicked a couple of goals over the last 3 weeks but when you are the focal point in bigs wins you are bound to jag a few.

Chad Cornes is another who is playing on reputation. Dom Cassisi is the worst captain in the AFL , Brett Ebert wouldnt be playing in any other clubs forward line and when Troy Chaplin is your best defender there isnt alot of depth.

With small crowds at Port Power games its only a matter of time before they fold , hand outs will only keep you alive for so long. Dont think we will have to worry about the bye when the Gold Coast are introduced.


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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby NO-MERCY » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:09 pm

Pac-Man wrote:The problem with Brogan is , in his first 3 seasons he was told to harden up , too soft for a big man. Now with confidence and bulking up he is feeling he can through himself around with attitude and give the Power that toughness that mark Williams craves.

Dean Brogan is so scary, monsters look under there bed for Brogans.

If Tredrea is Ports best forward, they are in real trouble. Yes he has kicked a couple of goals over the last 3 weeks but when you are the focal point in bigs wins you are bound to jag a few.

Chad Cornes is another who is playing on reputation. Dom Cassisi is the worst captain in the AFL , Brett Ebert wouldnt be playing in any other clubs forward line and when Troy Chaplin is your best defender there isnt alot of depth.

With small crowds at Port Power games its only a matter of time before they fold , hand outs will only keep you alive for so long. Dont think we will have to worry about the bye when the Gold Coast are introduced.



Alot of merit to that as far as i'm concerned. :D
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby bobster » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:08 pm

im not gona lie someone stated it before and i totally agree with them. that is the fact that port are fake tough... couldnt agree more! have been doing in for a few years now i think and its starting to show... i think u need to do a bit of wot they do, i.e a bit of niggle or somthing but there is a time u do it. thinks its fair to say that they are tough at the player and not over the footy
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Swooper16 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:12 pm

IMO Port have a few regulars who are just not up to standard.

Surjan - Usually plays on the opposition crumber. Is ok against most teams but gets found out against the quality ones Milne, Chapman etc. Unfortunate as you can tell he always gives his best.

Pettigrew - This must be his 4th full AFL season where he has been a regular in Ports 22. Still makes the same mistakes as he did in the first season. Also our 3rd key defender and like Surjan usually gets found out against the quality teams.

Rodan - Not sure if he can handball to a teammate next to him. When he tries he misses them by metres!! Never seen an AFL player so bad at it. Also usually his long bouncing runs look good but by the time he kicks it, the player up field has already made his lead.

Ebert - When in form is a good lead, mark and kick. Unfortuntely hasnt been in form since late 2007.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby shoe boy » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:55 pm

hearts on fire wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:Port you are a disgrace. I think the heave-ho attitude of Dean Brogan (a non-talented player telling everyone how tough he is and how weak they are) typifies Ports attitude at the moment. Brogan pull your head in mate, your a knob!

Yes Brogan is a knob, but a non-talented player? you have got to be kidding.

Brogan would have to be up there in the top 5 ruckman in the AFL.


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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:04 pm

Who is ahead of him then?

Cox,Ottens ( not playing ), Lade,Fraser ( you surely wont bring Fraser into it ), Jolly,Hudson,Hille,Griffen,Meeson,King,Gardiner,McIntosh,Hale,Sandilands?
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby blink » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:15 pm

I agree that Brogan is one of the top ruckmen going around, but you'd better throw in Kruezer, Simmonds and Blake into the list you have there Booney.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:21 pm

blink wrote:I agree that Brogan is one of the top ruckmen going around, but you'd better throw in Kruezer, Simmonds and Blake into the list you have there Booney.


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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:27 pm

Did you go to this one Booney? Not much point asking you if you enjoyed it. Are you still a fan of Choco's coaching? :?

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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:36 pm

I went,yes. I enjoyed it,no.

I dont know what to think about Chocco any more. There are so many paths to go down.

It is fair to say ( I hope ) that he did not instruct the playing group to go out and play like that. If, and I mean if he did then we are in serious trouble. If he is sending a completely different message then the playing group is not listening to him and it is time for a change at the top. There could well be a coaching merry go round at years end and he might just be part of it.Do you change just for the sake of change though? With 11 years under his belt, 2 GF's,a flag and a couple of "rebuilds" I think it is time for him to go.

As much as I hate Adelaide I would kill for the one thing they get every week, a consistent team orientated 4 quarter effort. I think we have alot more talent than them but our application is nowhere near the level it needs to be to play to flight AFL footy.

Many people I stand around ( and I think I speak for all AFL fans here ) are bewildered by the way the modern game is played. Sitting at home watching it on the TV doesn't really give you the insight into the lateral movement of the modern game and we are the very worst at doing this. Perhaps its time to put the goal posts on the wings, watch us go then!

I am at a complete loss as to where we are headed.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby Swooper16 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:59 pm

Half the reason Adelaide give a consistent 4 quarter effort is because they are happy to have 15 men behind the ball. Which is why they are always competitive and in with a chance. They will NEVER win a GF playing like that tho.

Not that Port will win one anytime soon playing like they did Friday night. But just be careful what you wish for Booney in relation to playing like the crows..!!
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby The Dutchman » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:10 pm

I am not a crows fan, but if Port did play more competitive football (even with 15 men behind the ball) it would be a HUGE improvement from the crap they are trying to dish up, and it might encourage some people to go and watch them!
I understand the importance of switching the play in the modern game, but Port honestly look like they dont have a clue coming out of the backlines unless its in the hands of Salopek or Krakouer. Even when they manage to get the ball to half forward the only targets are Tredrea and Ebert who try hard but are not consistently effective.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby auto » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:20 pm

Booney wrote:I went,yes. I enjoyed it,no.

I dont know what to think about Chocco any more. There are so many paths to go down.

It is fair to say ( I hope ) that he did not instruct the playing group to go out and play like that. If, and I mean if he did then we are in serious trouble. If he is sending a completely different message then the playing group is not listening to him and it is time for a change at the top. There could well be a coaching merry go round at years end and he might just be part of it.Do you change just for the sake of change though? With 11 years under his belt, 2 GF's,a flag and a couple of "rebuilds" I think it is time for him to go.

As much as I hate Adelaide I would kill for the one thing they get every week, a consistent team orientated 4 quarter effort. I think we have alot more talent than them but our application is nowhere near the level it needs to be to play to flight AFL footy.

Many people I stand around ( and I think I speak for all AFL fans here ) are bewildered by the way the modern game is played. Sitting at home watching it on the TV doesn't really give you the insight into the lateral movement of the modern game and we are the very worst at doing this. Perhaps its time to put the goal posts on the wings, watch us go then!

I am at a complete loss as to where we are headed.


A pretty accurate assessment i think. I hate the way when we get a free at the ruck duel the first thing we do is go sideways 30-40m, instead of 40-50m straight at goal into the danger zone.
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Re: Round 5: Port Adelaide vs St.Kilda

Postby JK » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:03 pm

Booney wrote:I went,yes. I enjoyed it,no.

I dont know what to think about Chocco any more. There are so many paths to go down.

It is fair to say ( I hope ) that he did not instruct the playing group to go out and play like that. If, and I mean if he did then we are in serious trouble. If he is sending a completely different message then the playing group is not listening to him and it is time for a change at the top. There could well be a coaching merry go round at years end and he might just be part of it.Do you change just for the sake of change though? With 11 years under his belt, 2 GF's,a flag and a couple of "rebuilds" I think it is time for him to go.

As much as I hate Adelaide I would kill for the one thing they get every week, a consistent team orientated 4 quarter effort. I think we have alot more talent than them but our application is nowhere near the level it needs to be to play to flight AFL footy.

Many people I stand around ( and I think I speak for all AFL fans here ) are bewildered by the way the modern game is played. Sitting at home watching it on the TV doesn't really give you the insight into the lateral movement of the modern game and we are the very worst at doing this. Perhaps its time to put the goal posts on the wings, watch us go then!

I am at a complete loss as to where we are headed.


Fantastic assessment mate, agree completely with everything you've said there
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