Brogan v Lovett

[Footy Smart]

will lovetts evidence at the tribunal come back to haunt him in the future. What happened to the code of silence between players is that also a thing of the past.

Code of Silence.... are these guys bikies??? or underworld figures

[The Girth]

yeah good one but i was of the understanding that you didnt drop another player in the shit at the tribunal. Is this the way footy is heading now players who will dob you in given half a chance. A bit ordinary i think.

[Choccies]

yeah good one but i was of the understanding that you didnt drop another player in the s***t at the tribunal. Is this the way footy is heading now players who will dob you in given half a chance. A bit ordinary i think.

Yes true.... a bit ordinary.... but so is Brogan's behaviour... So you get what you deserve !!

[Psyber]

Oh yeah, but Im sure the likes of Barrassi or Nicholls would have a different view and they were both champions of the game ...

will lovetts evidence at the tribunal come back to haunt him in the future. What happened to the code of silence between players is that also a thing of the past.

It really depends what culture you want.
If you think bashing others, and being bashed, is a normal part of playing sport, and muscle is what Aussie rules is about, you support both propositions above.
If you think sport is about mastering the skills of the game, and not getting deliberately pulped, outside the rules, for being better at them than some of the lumbering brutes, you don't!

I wonder whether Barassi, Nicholls, and Neil Kerley in SA, would have looked quite as good if they had to play by today's rules. [I don't doubt they would still have been good players.]
As a kid, I saw Lindsay Head make Neil Kerley look silly - he missed him three times in one match trying to take him out - LH side-stepped him every time and got the ball.

[JK]

Oh yeah, but Im sure the likes of Barrassi or Nicholls would have a different view and they were both champions of the game ...

will lovetts evidence at the tribunal come back to haunt him in the future. What happened to the code of silence between players is that also a thing of the past.

It really depends what culture you want.
If you think bashing others, and being bashed, is a normal part of playing sport, and muscle is what Aussie rules is about, you support both propositions above.
If you think sport is about mastering the skills of the game, and not getting deliberately pulped, outside the rules, for being better at them than some of the lumbering brutes, you don't!

I wonder whether Barassi, Nicholls, and Neil Kerley in SA, would have looked quite as good if they had to play by today's rules. [I don't doubt they would still have been good players.]
As a kid, I saw Lindsay Head make Neil Kerley look silly - he missed him three times in one match trying to take him out - LH side-stepped him every time and got the ball.

You're being far too generalised with your terms there Psyber .. To all the Nancy's that down play the importance of physicality in the game, terms like "bashing" as you put it, do little to distinguish between king-hits and reasonable fair physical impact.

If a bloke got bumped, or nudged, and effectively that's what it is in this case (otherwise it's a charge and the transgressor should go for 3 weeks), how freakin soft have we become if there's no longer room for that in this game? Forget Bickley's hit on Wakelin or Kerley's hit on Nygaard, what we're talking about is effectively a game of marbles by comparison.

[Psyber]

I'm not criticising fair body contact in the process of winning the ball, but the deliberately going for the guy and not the ball.
I also deplore the hits behind play, or, in this case, after the siren ends play..
Physicality in the contest is one thing, but belting or crunching a guy who is not expecting it because he isn't in the contest at the time is another.
Kicking, kneeing, kneeling on, a guy who is down in a pack and defenceless needs to be stopped too.

[JK]

I'm not criticising fair body contact in the process of winning the ball, but the deliberately going for the guy and not the ball.
I also deplore the hits behind play, or, in this case, after the siren ends play..
Physicality in the contest is one thing, but belting or crunching a guy who is not expecting it because he isn't in the contest at the time is another.
Kicking, kneeing, kneeling on, a guy who is down in a pack and defenceless needs to be stopped too.

Don't disagree with any of that Psyber, I guess I just don't count it as a hit, happy to agree to disagree though

[Pup]

will lovetts evidence at the tribunal come back to haunt him in the future. What happened to the code of silence between players is that also a thing of the past.

Please

Lovett told the truth, why should he cover for Brogan when he clearly has no respect for the bloke. Brogan made a fool of himself on sunday IMO, and while the contact was minor at best it was stupid reckless and innappropiate at 3/4 time especially with the umpire 5 metres away, you cant expect to get away with that.

And what Chad Cornes said yesterday was laughable. Deal with it, Lovett told the truth and Brogan got what he deserved.

[jimmy loughnan]

Brogan is a half-wit. Gets what he deserved. At quarter time when the siren blows you don't expect unprovoked contact. Sure if there was scuffle going on, and you were expecting it and ready for it - different story. Gets what he deserves. Would be lucky if that bloke had half a brain.

[Booney]

Dale Mortimer, is that you again?

[Rik E Boy]

Dale Mortimer, is that you again?

[brod]

He has been done for "Rough Conduct". Absolute joke. He, and it was at walking pace, walked into Lovett at the end of the first quarter and gave Lovett some "arjy barjy and push and shove". Absolute joke.

Meanwhile Steve Johnson apparently didnt "attepmt" to strike Hodge, despite the fact a clenched fist was thrown at Hodge and missed by very little.

Rough Conduct? Rough treatment more like it.

After the panel threw out the contact of Max Rooke against Sam Mitchell, a player gets a week for contact at walking pace
(Im not saying either that the Rooke incident shouldnt have been thrown out either)

[catchisthecry]

Go belt some bloke walking his dog Bogan!!