Norwood fined $50k for Salary Cap breaches in 2008

[HeartBeatsTrue]

WARREN PARTLAND
March 19, 2009 03:15pm
NORWOOD has been banned from recruiting outside its zone for 12 months and hit with a $50,000 fine for salary cap breaches.

The hefty financial penalty equals the SANFL-record fine slapped on South Adelaide in 2006 for breaches of the cap, while the recruiting ban is a first for the competition.

The Redlegs busted the $350,000 cap by $30,250 for last season, claiming a misunderstanding of the regulations and a miscalculation of player payments.

The club voluntarily disclosed the breach to the SA Football Commission during the annual salary cap audit.

SANFL state league general manager Darren Chandler said the Commission treated the breach very seriously and it was important to make a strong stand on the matter.

"The Commission reiterates that this was a voluntary disclosure by the Norwood Football Club and it was clear that the intent wasn't to deceive," Chandler said.

"We are satisfied Norwood is committed to restructuring the management of the salary cap in 2009 and beyond.

"Clubs are fully aware of the regulations and the consequences if found guilty of breaching the cap. The rules are there to abide by."



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Makes you wonder if Norwood weren't cheating the cap would they have even scored a goal on that fateful Friday night in May last year....

I also wonder if Norwood didnt voluntarily disclose the info, would they have been caught?

[fester69]

About time, pity we "got caught", oh that's right - we didn't get caught, we dobbed ourselves in!
Who gives a crap? As a Norwood man I say it's great that we are finally in a financial position to actually go over the cap and shows the footy department is intent on getting the best possible players to our club!

Hopefully this galvanises the Club and creates even more of an "Us vs Them" mentality!

And btw for all you unfortunate non-Norwood supporters - it's allright to be jealous!

[sjt]

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And btw for all you unfortunate non-Norwood supporters - it's allright to be jealous![/quote]

LMFAO. You forgot to add 50 smiley faces and 60 "winks".

[sjt]

About time, pity we "got caught", oh that's right - we didn't get caught, we dobbed ourselves in!
Who gives a crap? As a Norwood man I say it's great that we are finally in a financial position to actually go over the cap and shows the footy department is intent on getting the best possible players to our club!

Hopefully this galvanises the Club and creates even more of an "Us vs Them" mentality!

And btw for all you unfortunate non-Norwood supporters - it's allright to be jealous!

Actually, shows they can't read the regulations, can't add up and wasted their money.

[nickname]

I wonder if the ban on recruiting will extend to banning Norwood from the mini draft.

That would be an advantage!

Didn't like Walker and Kite's seasons then?

[Wedgie]

About time, pity we "got caught", oh that's right - we didn't get caught, we dobbed ourselves in!
Who gives a crap? As a Norwood man I say it's great that we are finally in a financial position to actually go over the cap and shows the footy department is intent on getting the best possible players to our club!

Hopefully this galvanises the Club and creates even more of an "Us vs Them" mentality!

And btw for all you unfortunate non-Norwood supporters - it's allright to be jealous!

Of course we're jealous, you get to drink Coopers at home games where we have to put up with Japanese owned swill.
Dont know about this Us v Them approach as I like Norwood and they are my 2nd favourite club as they're mostly harmless on the field and serve great beer!

[dash61]

Yeah rediculous. SANFL clubs have no control on how many games AFL players play yet when they do play it counts in the cap. Could not have been easy for Norwood as they had a heap of these in and out of the team. All that considered it doesnt look good with this years recruits.
I'm very disappointed we breached the cap but at least this year the amount of AFL listed players is a lot less.

With a nominal fee of about $500 counting against the salary cap for every game played by an AFL-listed player, that is hardly going to be the reason you exceeded the cap by $30,000.

Where did I say that was the reason we breached the cap? Just dont agree with AFL listed players appearances as being part of the cap.

And dash, you have way too much time on your hands. Cant you do something else instead of digging up dirt from other clubs? The info night was over a week ago.
And the "hefty pay packet" comment from me was tongue in cheek.

Heart Beats True, I explain something to you

Bryce Campbell (Crows) 17 Games $500 a game in 2008
Kris Massie (Crows) 2 games $500 a game in 2008
Luke Jericho (Crows) 5 games $500 a game in 2008
A Kite (Crows) 14 games @$300 a game in 2008
Walker (Crows) 17 games @$300 a game in 2008
Lower (Power) 9 games @$300-500 a game in 2008
Thomas (Power) 4 games @$300-500 a game in 2008
Adam Cockshell (Power) 19 Games $300 a game in 2008
Heart Beats True, at $300 a game thats close to what a first year rookie gets in the SANFL, these guys didnt cause u in any way to go over the salary cap, they reduced you match payments, didnt increase them. In 2009 the 3 lads u recruited to stay at your club will cost you more like an extra $1500 a game being generous

I hear a few clubs pulled out of the bidding for Bryce Campbell at about 50K, others bid higher so divide that by 20 to see what he gets a game

[fester69]

Time that this bullshit about Bryce shopping himself around to every club got put to bed!
IF you have actual proof then please post it, dont be like sheep and follow everyone else!

[Mickyj]

Time that this bullshit about Bryce shopping himself around to every club got put to bed!
IF you have actual proof then please post it, dont be like sheep and follow everyone else!

I think if u go back through topic posts Fester (not having a dig or trying to have a fight) he was reported to be at Oval Ave .Didnt see him myself just what I read on SA Footy.

[nickname]

Time that this bullshit about Bryce shopping himself around to every club got put to bed!
IF you have actual proof then please post it, dont be like sheep and follow everyone else!

I can tell you he spoke to West for one and was shown around the place.

[dash61]

Time that this bullshit about Bryce shopping himself around to every club got put to bed!
IF you have actual proof then please post it, dont be like sheep and follow everyone else!

Fester thats a good point, any SANFL clubs that made Bryce Campbell a written offer should disclose those offers to the SANFL. 6 or 7 other local clubs spoke with him and made offers so hopefully there are written offers out there and they can be submitted to the league investigating officers

[eddie eagle]

Someone should tell nowood that the idea of cheating the salary cap is to put a better side on the park.

[RUSure]

The Norwood Football Club wishes to confirm that it has been informed by the SANFL of a Salary Cap breach for season 2008. (despite denying this 1 week ago to Norwood members)

Despite extensive and transparent discussions with the SANFL's designated salary cap officer throughout the season, the Club regretfully accepts the League's finding and wishes to apologise for not successfully adhering to the rules and regulations of the league in regards to the Salary Cap. (so extensive and transparent that the club was not told of the likely scenario?)

It is evident now that the loss of key people at critical stages early last year, undermined the ability of the club to effectively manage this fundamentally important function. The Board's appointment of Dominic Shepley as it's new CEO in July 2008 and the resultant overhaul of the Club's systems and processes to address these administrative issues have dramatically improved its performance both on and off the field. ( Who was lost early last year? Maybe the new Football Manager was not prepared to accept this as a basic responsibility of the job. And how does the 'overhaul of the Club's systems and processes addressing these administrative issues impact on late season form? And how did they impact on off field performance?)

The Board and staff of the Norwood Football Club are now confident to invite all members, supporters and sponsors to look forward with great anticipation to a successful 2009 season, for their beloved Redlegs. (Successful - so they bloody should be. Unless the salary cap has increased by $100 000 there is no way they are under the cap in 09 ensuring anything that is achieved this year wil always have the foul stench of 'cheats' about it).

Absolutely disgusting Norwood.

Who is being held accountable? Someone must have signed the stat dec requirement for clubs lodging all player payments. The Finance Director, The President, The CEO?

And that some supporters are proud. Why not play with 19 players?

And why is the penalty containing unprecendented penalties? The breach in 2007 must have been only swept so far under the carpet.

Cheats. Is anything lower than a deliberate cheat?

[Dutchy]

Time that this bullshit about Bryce shopping himself around to every club got put to bed!
IF you have actual proof then please post it, dont be like sheep and follow everyone else!

Fester thats a good point, any SANFL clubs that made Bryce Campbell a written offer should disclose those offers to the SANFL. 6 or 7 other local clubs spoke with him and made offers so hopefully there are written offers out there and they can be submitted to the league investigating officers

And what would that prove Dash?

Fester - Do you have proof that he DIDNT shop himself around?

[oldfella]

Dutchy,
If 3 clubs showed evidence to the SANFL investigations officer that they offered $60,000 to in an unsuccessfull attempt to recruit a player and the club that recruited him indicates $50,000 on their salary cap report for the same player don't you think this would raise some questions and lead the investigator to at least ask for a please explain. (Sorry, I forgot love of a club but to take a $10,000 pay cut - make the player an immediate Life Member).

In fact my memory is that information of this type is what the SANFL actually requested from all league clubs (on a voluntary basis) in the last 12 months ago and I believe at least three (if not more) clubs did provide information.

Fester,
technically you are probably right in that Bryce Campbell did not hawk himself around personally but his manager did presumably on his behalf.

[matt1]

I have it from an extremely good source at Oval Avenue that the Eagles had offered Campbell over 50,000 - and he said thanks but no thanks! Just to back Mickyj up.

[bayman]

I have it from an extremely good source at Oval Avenue that the Eagles had offered Campbell over 50,000 - and he said thanks but no thanks! Just to back Mickyj up.

on his way back he popped into peacock avenue but declined that invitation as well

[Big Phil]

At no point did I say you did win the Premiership.

But you did ask if a team is found guilty of salary cap breaches and are Premiers should it be taken away? Like Carlton in 95 just to jog your memory.

Norwood were found guilty of breaches in 2008, a year in which they finished fourth, so your question is a moot one. It can be asked of the Dogs earlier this decade though, someone can give me the year I'm sure.

2009 is a whole new ball game.

The year was 2000 I think and from memory the so called "breach" was only a very small one, something like just under $5,000.

It was said that Centrals recieved a financial bonus from the SANFL for winning the Premiership so the club decided to pay for individual copies of the game to be given to players as a "gift" for their efforts. This "gift" was considered a a part of the players payment and the subsequent breach of the cap was found.

[Squawk]

At no point did I say you did win the Premiership.

But you did ask if a team is found guilty of salary cap breaches and are Premiers should it be taken away? Like Carlton in 95 just to jog your memory.

Norwood were found guilty of breaches in 2008, a year in which they finished fourth, so your question is a moot one. It can be asked of the Dogs earlier this decade though, someone can give me the year I'm sure.

2009 is a whole new ball game.

The year was 2000 I think and from memory the so called "breach" was only a very small one, something like just under $5,000.

It was said that Centrals recieved a financial bonus from the SANFL for winning the Premiership so the club decided to pay for individual copies of the game to be given to players as a "gift" for their efforts. This "gift" was considered a a part of the players payment and the subsequent breach of the cap was found.

I have a feeling that Dogwatcher (??) may have advised in another thread that its was actually a TV and video recorder for each player to be able to watch the game - not just a VHS tape. Please clarify DW (or anyone else) if I'm mistaken.

[bayman]

At no point did I say you did win the Premiership.

But you did ask if a team is found guilty of salary cap breaches and are Premiers should it be taken away? Like Carlton in 95 just to jog your memory.

Norwood were found guilty of breaches in 2008, a year in which they finished fourth, so your question is a moot one. It can be asked of the Dogs earlier this decade though, someone can give me the year I'm sure.

2009 is a whole new ball game.

The year was 2000 I think and from memory the so called "breach" was only a very small one, something like just under $5,000.

It was said that Centrals recieved a financial bonus from the SANFL for winning the Premiership so the club decided to pay for individual copies of the game to be given to players as a "gift" for their efforts. This "gift" was considered a a part of the players payment and the subsequent breach of the cap was found.

I have a feeling that Dogwatcher (??) may have advised in another thread that its was actually a TV and video recorder for each player to be able to watch the game - not just a VHS tape. Please clarify DW (or anyone else) if I'm mistaken.

either way it should not come under the cap, central won their first flag creating history after years of heartburn & to give the players a tape/disc & a video or dvd player to me says the club was saying thankyou for your efforts & enjoy the replay in the years to come & remember you were the first group of players to represent this club in a premiership...SHOULD NOT BE UNDER THE SALARY CAP....personally i don't think there should be one