Adelaide Plains Football League

[Swamp Donkey]

does make sense - it would be the same as letting a team play a trial game on the last round of the year so they didnt have a bye going into the finals.

I dont agree with that either. If a club wants to organise a trial game at any stage during the season, how is the league affected and why does it have anything to do with them??

[The Jack]

does make sense - it would be the same as letting a team play a trial game on the last round of the year so they didnt have a bye going into the finals.

I dont agree with that either. If a club wants to organise a trial game at any stage during the season, how is the league affected and why does it have anything to do with them??

Swamp, I think it has everything to do with them, but I know what you're saying at the same time. A bye has to be a bye if the programme requires one. For complete fairness. Having said that, it's probably not completely fair that someone has to have the bye the week before finals, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles I spose! I guess the only solution is to include another team to remove the bye altogether. But we've already tried that, haven't we...

[Swamp Donkey]

does make sense - it would be the same as letting a team play a trial game on the last round of the year so they didnt have a bye going into the finals.

I dont agree with that either. If a club wants to organise a trial game at any stage during the season, how is the league affected and why does it have anything to do with them??

Swamp, I think it has everything to do with them, but I know what you're saying at the same time. A bye has to be a bye if the programme requires one. For complete fairness. Having said that, it's probably not completely fair that someone has to have the bye the week before finals, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles I spose! I guess the only solution is to include another team to remove the bye altogether. But we've already tried that, haven't we...

I dont agree. Scenario: If HWE have a bye last game and get the first week off in the finals which is what used to happen if your finished top and before the sat/sun finals setup, and the HWE coach thinks that his lads need a competitve hit out to keep them match fit, why cant he then organise a informal hit out against another club? Most would have an internal in that case, but the point is, what has the league got to loose??

[The Jack]

does make sense - it would be the same as letting a team play a trial game on the last round of the year so they didnt have a bye going into the finals.

I dont agree with that either. If a club wants to organise a trial game at any stage during the season, how is the league affected and why does it have anything to do with them??

Swamp, I think it has everything to do with them, but I know what you're saying at the same time. A bye has to be a bye if the programme requires one. For complete fairness. Having said that, it's probably not completely fair that someone has to have the bye the week before finals, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles I spose! I guess the only solution is to include another team to remove the bye altogether. But we've already tried that, haven't we...

I dont agree. Scenario: If HWE have a bye last game and get the first week off in the finals which is what used to happen if your finished top and before the sat/sun finals setup, and the HWE coach thinks that his lads need a competitve hit out to keep them match fit, why cant he then organise a informal hit out against another club? Most would have an internal in that case, but the point is, what has the league got to loose??

Well why doesn't every club organize a trial game for every bye they have? Probably because it wouldn't be possible for some clubs (timing wouldn't suit prospective opponents etc.), therefore it would be an UNFAIR advantage to those clubs that could successfully organize said trial. So the only sensible thing for the league to do, is to ban all trial games on the day you're supposed to have a bye. The scenario given above is just bad luck on HWE's part, and I'm sure the club would be well prepared for just such a possibility (read internal trial, or at least a damn good flogging at training). Now on a personal level, I need as many weeks as possible to recover from any game, trial or otherwise, so I would welcome the above scenario with open arms!

[The Big Shrek]

Jack, your arguments apply equally to all trial matches. Some clubs have more ability to organise pre season trials than others.

Some clubs have better facilities than others too. Should the APFL stop Balaklava or Long Plains improving their clubrooms because it is unfair to the other clubs that don't have them? If a club wanted to buy some weights should the APFL stop them because it gives them an unfair advantage? Dipper came and helped at training last year at HWE, should the league make sure the same opportunity was offered to all clubs?

Clubs work behind the scenes to get any advantage they can. Just let them do what they want.

[The Jack]

Jack, your arguments apply equally to all trial matches. Some clubs have more ability to organise pre season trials than others.

Some clubs have better facilities than others too. Should the APFL stop Balaklava or Long Plains improving their clubrooms because it is unfair to the other clubs that don't have them? If a club wanted to buy some weights should the APFL stop them because it gives them an unfair advantage? Dipper came and helped at training last year at HWE, should the league make sure the same opportunity was offered to all clubs?

Clubs work behind the scenes to get any advantage they can. Just let them do what they want.

All the things you've mentioned Shrek are things that are available to all clubs all the time, if they see fit (and finances allow). As I mentioned earlier, you could have the best ability to organize trial games in the league, but if noone else within cooee had a bye or the willingness to cooperate, then a trial on a bye may not be available to all clubs all the time. It would depend very much on when your bye was scheduled.

Another thing Shrek, are you lacing them up Thursday night? Or is it just for the new players as was mentioned in an earlier post?

[jumbo]

Here's the scenario - Two Wells has the bye first round, first game on the 25th April. If cannot play a game on the 18th according to APFL, the previous week is easter which is difficult to organise a game for many and varied reasons, amateur league starts on the 4th (week before easter), therefore Two wells can have a trial before this date which is 4 weeks before it's first real match. The request was made to the league to have a game on the Saturday 18th against Blyth-Snowtown and was subsequently knocked back by the league because "it has never been done before". Thanks goodness these directors dont run anything that could be leading edge!!

I agree with Swamp - what has it got to do with the league and how can it impact negatively in anyway on the APFL? I understand a trial game is now being organised under "lights" at Two Wells, nowhere near ideal but forced by the APFL.

Does the APFL think it will loose gate at the other 2 games? If so, that quite frankly is ridiculous.

[twogood4u]

[The Big Shrek]

My point was opportunities come up all the time. Clubs don't all have the same avenues to make money, some clubs in town don't even have an oval because of cricket before the season starts. It's never been a level playing field, so stopping clubs organising trials under the guise of fairness is silly.

Don't know if I'll be playing on Thursday. Would love to but it looks like we might have enough new blokes for an entire team. Might have to beg the coach to put me on for a half.

Will you be playing Jack?

[old moz]

. Thanks goodness these directors dont run anything that could be leading edge!!

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they gave your league the "mercy rule" in juniors. that was a great idea

[jumbo]

Thanks goodness these directors dont run anything that could be leading edge!!

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they gave your league the "mercy rule" in juniors. that was a great idea

yea and it only took them a season for the penny to drop .....

[The Jack]

My point was opportunities come up all the time. Clubs don't all have the same avenues to make money, some clubs in town don't even have an oval because of cricket before the season starts. It's never been a level playing field, so stopping clubs organising trials under the guise of fairness is silly.

Don't know if I'll be playing on Thursday. Would love to but it looks like we might have enough new blokes for an entire team. Might have to beg the coach to put me on for a half.

Will you be playing Jack?

Not sure what Brazza's plans are for tomorrow night yet, Shrekky, but I think I might have a couple of quarters in me! If required. Assuming we don't get flogged at training tonight! New wheels the other day too! Few blisters heading my way for sure!

[The Big Shrek]

I think the question on everyone's lips is will the great man DT be playing?

Should be a good night, oval is in good shape, might even be a bit of a crowd there. I'm still disappointed we're not playing at Locheil though. I reckon everyone in the city has it too easy. People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers!

[The reigning Ben.C]

[ People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers![/quote]

The A.P.F.L would not exist if this was the case.

[Swamp Donkey]

1) Well why doesn't every club organize a trial game for every bye they have? 2)Probably because it wouldn't be possible for some clubs (timing wouldn't suit prospective opponents etc.), therefore it would be an UNFAIR advantage to those clubs that could successfully organize said trial.

So the only sensible thing for the league to do, is to ban all trial games on the day you're supposed to have a bye. The scenario given above is just bad luck on HWE's part, and I'm sure the club would be well prepared for just such a possibility (read internal trial, or at least a damn good flogging at training). Now on a personal level, I need as many weeks as possible to recover from any game, trial or otherwise, so I would welcome the above scenario with open arms!

1) Because they dont always need a run at the time of the bye, ie injuries or just plain rest to freshen up. 2) It should have nothing to do with whether or not you can get an opponent, if you can and both teams are willing to play well why not organise a game, its at thier own peril. yes they may get important match practicewhich is the idea but they also risk injuries, surely the clubs should be able to make the decision on their own. I just dont understand how the league is affected.
I can see your issue Jack, no team in their right mind would want to play on the surfaces at Wakey or Lochiel early in the year, but thats not anybody elses problem if other clubs with attractive facilities and are much closer can lure clubs for a scratchy good luck to them.
Im the same I'd be happy to enjoy a week off mate, but it should be up to the clubs. An internal is exactly the same thing except your playing against blokes you dont know in an organised trial say on a thurs night.

[Dewkicker]

I think the question on everyone's lips is will the great man DT be playing?

Should be a good night, oval is in good shape, might even be a bit of a crowd there. I'm still disappointed we're not playing at Locheil though. I reckon everyone in the city has it too easy. People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers!

The Hummocks boys will be looking for individual shower cubicles when they are put to shame by the new boy Joe Hunt.

[The reigning Ben.C]

I think the question on everyone's lips is will the great man DT be playing?

Should be a good night, oval is in good shape, might even be a bit of a crowd there. I'm still disappointed we're not playing at Locheil though. I reckon everyone in the city has it too easy. People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers!

The Hummocks boys will be looking for individual shower cubicles when they are put to shame by the new boy Joe Hunt.

You been down there before Dew?

[Drop Bear]

Way to gay up the Hummocks change rooms.

[Maxwell Smart]

I think the question on everyone's lips is will the great man DT be playing?

Should be a good night, oval is in good shape, might even be a bit of a crowd there. I'm still disappointed we're not playing at Locheil though. I reckon everyone in the city has it too easy. People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers!

The Hummocks boys will be looking for individual shower cubicles when they are put to shame by the new boy Joe Hunt.

You been down there before Dew?

i dont think it was meant to get discussion going benC u sicko, why u need to know if hes been there b4, needa description? theres other forums 4 ur type

[The reigning Ben.C]

I think the question on everyone's lips is will the great man DT be playing?

Should be a good night, oval is in good shape, might even be a bit of a crowd there. I'm still disappointed we're not playing at Locheil though. I reckon everyone in the city has it too easy. People have seriously said that clubs should be kicked out the league for having shared showers!

The Hummocks boys will be looking for individual shower cubicles when they are put to shame by the new boy Joe Hunt.

You been down there before Dew?

i dont think it was meant to get discussion going benC u sicko, why u need to know if hes been there b4, needa description? theres other forums 4 ur type

Since when have you had morals? get a life max